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Why do humans still drink milk?
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Claudya
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Of course I am an evolutionist. Remember, I'm from Europe. Young Earth Creationism is a rare exception here, even among christians. Anyway, people don't have to believe in macro evolution to understand why some humans are lactose tolerant. You just need to accept that genetic traits which increase survival and reproductive chances under some conditions will start to spread among a certain population over the course of some generations. Because people with those genes will tend to have more and healthier babies who also have those genes.
You can tolerate lactose because your digestive system produces lactase. Lactose is a sort of sugar, and lactase is an enzyme responsible for turning lactose into a smaller molecule your body can digest and use to provide fuel for your cells. Your body hasn't lost the ability to produce lactase when you grew up (all mammals and like 70% of humanity lose that ability as a natural part of growing up) because some of your ancestors had the lactase persistence gene. The science about the physiological and genetical background of lactose in/tolerance can be read on various sites online.
PossibilitiesAbound
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In general, there is nothing wrong with drinking milk as an adult. In fact it is THE only food that any animal can eat exclusively and still thrive. It is regarded by nutritionists and food scientists (of which I am one) to be the standard by which all other food is measured, in regards to nutritive value.
That said, there are many peoples who, after about age 10, develop a milk intolerance either in the form of an allergy or inability to digest lactose. These people often do not however, have the same problems when they drink raw milk or eat other dairy products made from raw milk.
Not all milk is the same! Be warned that milk from pasture fed cows are not fed grain is NOT at all the same as milk from a factory farmed, hormone injected, grain fed, and antibiotic laced cow.
All in all, a healthy animal produces healthy products whether it be milk, meat, eggs or other tissues. There are minor differences between goats, cows and horse milk, but they aren't so dissimilar as to pose a huge problem. Horse milk is the closest to human milk, the difference only being some minor fat percentage. If your child cannot for whatever reason nurse, raw horse milk from pastured mares is the absolute best choice.
That said, there are many peoples who, after about age 10, develop a milk intolerance either in the form of an allergy or inability to digest lactose. These people often do not however, have the same problems when they drink raw milk or eat other dairy products made from raw milk.
Not all milk is the same! Be warned that milk from pasture fed cows are not fed grain is NOT at all the same as milk from a factory farmed, hormone injected, grain fed, and antibiotic laced cow.
All in all, a healthy animal produces healthy products whether it be milk, meat, eggs or other tissues. There are minor differences between goats, cows and horse milk, but they aren't so dissimilar as to pose a huge problem. Horse milk is the closest to human milk, the difference only being some minor fat percentage. If your child cannot for whatever reason nurse, raw horse milk from pastured mares is the absolute best choice.
OhFarouk
Member
Anyway, people don't have to believe in macro evolution to understand why some humans are lactose tolerant. You just need to accept that genetic traits which increase survival and reproductive chances under some conditions will start to spread among a certain population over the course of some generations. Because people with those genes will tend to have more and healthier babies who also have those genes.
You can tolerate lactose because your digestive system produces lactase. Lactose is a sort of sugar, and lactase is an enzyme responsible for turning lactose into a smaller molecule your body can digest and use to provide fuel for your cells. Your body hasn't lost the ability to produce lactase when you grew up (all mammals and like 70% of humanity lose that ability as a natural part of growing up) because some of your ancestors had the lactase persistence gene. The science about the physiological and genetical background of lactose in/tolerance can be read on various sites online.
Do you really think the Last Adam just evolved?
Do you really think that New Creation in Christ was just a haphazard matter of chance?
You see, what we believe does matter.
B
Brother Mike
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Milk does the body good. You can't eat Fruity Pebbles without Milk. That is just a scientific fact.
Mike.
Mike.
OhFarouk
Member
jasoncran
Member
lol. I grew up on milk. if that was the case then I know a lot of older americans that used to drink from the cow's udders so to speak don't have that.And no colon cancer yet
I think a fair bit of the info in that article is suspect. Take casein, for instance. It's not that it is "difficult or impossible for humans to assimilate," it's that it takes 7-8 hours to be digested and absorbed. That is precisely why athletes, body builders, weightlifters, etc., will take it before bed--it provides a steady source of protein throughout the night while the body is repairing itself.
Lewis
Member
Is milk good for you?
http://health.howstu...ood-for-you.htm
While we've been conditioned to believe milk is the epitome of healthy drinking, it's really a gamble. It can be highly beneficial or highly detrimental. Physicians emphasize the importance of plenty of milk for young bodies, and dairy products have long been a part of the standard food pyramid (taught to our children and therefore, perpetuated).
Shoppers have options, and now need to be educated and picky about their daily moo juice.
Milk from many animals, particularly cows, has long been a regular food staple for many, but not all, cultures. It provides other food sources such as cheese, yogurt, butter and kefir and is a source of protein, vitamin D and calcium. On the flip side, it's also a trigger for lactose intolerance. Lactose is a sugar usually digested in the intestinal tract. Many people lack or lose the ability to digest lactose and will suffer from significant bowel cramping, bloating or even loose bowels upon consuming dairy products. This problem can be overcome to some degree by replacing the lost enzyme as an oral supplement.
Dairy is one of the most commonly reported food allergies [Source: Rona, Nowak-Wegrzyn]. Even when not seen as a specific allergy, milk is frequently not tolerated by the gastrointestinal tract [Source: Nowak-Wegrzyn]. This is a problem that can extend beyond lactose intolerance. For many, milk can cause bloating, constipation and even reflux. Clinically, milk may also be linked to increased eczema, worsening sinus problems, migraine headaches and joint pain [Source: Grant]. Milk is considered a mucus-producing food and is clinically thought to aggravate congestion. One Johns Hopkins physician, Dr. Frank Oski, has even written a book that shares his experiences of decreased rates of strep throat infection once children removed milk from their diets [Source: Oski]. Often, these conditions resolve or improve when milk is removed or eliminated from the diet.
For those who wish to keep dairy in their diet, know that much of the “regular” milk on store shelves is far from healthy. Milk cows are given growth hormones to increase their milk production and antibiotics to decrease infections. These materials become contaminants in the milk and their impact on the human body is not entirely known. Look for containers that clearly state that the cows used to produce the milk were not given any hormones or antibiotics. The term “organic” can be misleading. Organic milk may mean no hormones in one case and no antibiotics in another, or that the cows were fed organic grain. Even large consumer companies such as Kroger and Starbucks are offering hormone-free dairy products.
You should also choose milk from grass-fed cows. While most cows will graze on grass at some point in their lifetime, many will be shifted to some other feed source to increase their size and milk production. Cattle rely on an internal system that is uniquely adapted to the processing of grasses as their major food source. Other types of food, such as corn, will fatten up the cow and make them less healthy. This carries over to both the meat and the milk. Cows fed exclusively grass will themselves be healthier and produce healthier milk.
Another growing trend in nutrition is a return to raw milk, which has not been pasteurized. Pasteurization is the process of heating milk at very high temperatures to destroy bacteria. Many argue that this exposure to high heat also damages the natural structures of the proteins in the milk, making them harder to digest. A study focusing on children raised on a farm showed decreased allergies due to exposure to high levels of bacteria [Source: Debarry], in addition, data suggests a protective effect of raw milk in regards to allergies [Source: Radon]. Raw milk is a source of propionibacterium, a group of bacteria that is thought to help benefit the health of the intestinal tract [Source: Zarate]. Clearly, the source of any raw milk product will have a direct effect on its quality. Take the time to understand what safeguards have been made at that particular dairy to keep the facility clean and the cows as healthy as possible. States vary on the legality of raw milk products, and those interested should investigate what is available in their state [Source: Real Milk]. Listen to what your body is telling you about milk consumption, and always respect the answer that is given.
http://health.howstu...ood-for-you.htm
While we've been conditioned to believe milk is the epitome of healthy drinking, it's really a gamble. It can be highly beneficial or highly detrimental. Physicians emphasize the importance of plenty of milk for young bodies, and dairy products have long been a part of the standard food pyramid (taught to our children and therefore, perpetuated).
Shoppers have options, and now need to be educated and picky about their daily moo juice.
Milk from many animals, particularly cows, has long been a regular food staple for many, but not all, cultures. It provides other food sources such as cheese, yogurt, butter and kefir and is a source of protein, vitamin D and calcium. On the flip side, it's also a trigger for lactose intolerance. Lactose is a sugar usually digested in the intestinal tract. Many people lack or lose the ability to digest lactose and will suffer from significant bowel cramping, bloating or even loose bowels upon consuming dairy products. This problem can be overcome to some degree by replacing the lost enzyme as an oral supplement.
Dairy is one of the most commonly reported food allergies [Source: Rona, Nowak-Wegrzyn]. Even when not seen as a specific allergy, milk is frequently not tolerated by the gastrointestinal tract [Source: Nowak-Wegrzyn]. This is a problem that can extend beyond lactose intolerance. For many, milk can cause bloating, constipation and even reflux. Clinically, milk may also be linked to increased eczema, worsening sinus problems, migraine headaches and joint pain [Source: Grant]. Milk is considered a mucus-producing food and is clinically thought to aggravate congestion. One Johns Hopkins physician, Dr. Frank Oski, has even written a book that shares his experiences of decreased rates of strep throat infection once children removed milk from their diets [Source: Oski]. Often, these conditions resolve or improve when milk is removed or eliminated from the diet.
For those who wish to keep dairy in their diet, know that much of the “regular” milk on store shelves is far from healthy. Milk cows are given growth hormones to increase their milk production and antibiotics to decrease infections. These materials become contaminants in the milk and their impact on the human body is not entirely known. Look for containers that clearly state that the cows used to produce the milk were not given any hormones or antibiotics. The term “organic” can be misleading. Organic milk may mean no hormones in one case and no antibiotics in another, or that the cows were fed organic grain. Even large consumer companies such as Kroger and Starbucks are offering hormone-free dairy products.
You should also choose milk from grass-fed cows. While most cows will graze on grass at some point in their lifetime, many will be shifted to some other feed source to increase their size and milk production. Cattle rely on an internal system that is uniquely adapted to the processing of grasses as their major food source. Other types of food, such as corn, will fatten up the cow and make them less healthy. This carries over to both the meat and the milk. Cows fed exclusively grass will themselves be healthier and produce healthier milk.
Another growing trend in nutrition is a return to raw milk, which has not been pasteurized. Pasteurization is the process of heating milk at very high temperatures to destroy bacteria. Many argue that this exposure to high heat also damages the natural structures of the proteins in the milk, making them harder to digest. A study focusing on children raised on a farm showed decreased allergies due to exposure to high levels of bacteria [Source: Debarry], in addition, data suggests a protective effect of raw milk in regards to allergies [Source: Radon]. Raw milk is a source of propionibacterium, a group of bacteria that is thought to help benefit the health of the intestinal tract [Source: Zarate]. Clearly, the source of any raw milk product will have a direct effect on its quality. Take the time to understand what safeguards have been made at that particular dairy to keep the facility clean and the cows as healthy as possible. States vary on the legality of raw milk products, and those interested should investigate what is available in their state [Source: Real Milk]. Listen to what your body is telling you about milk consumption, and always respect the answer that is given.
I had what seemed to be lactose intolerance briefly last year. Only lasted a few months.
farouk
Member
questdriven:
Another aspect may be: Do you like milk? the taste, that is?
(It's not exactly the same as lactose intolerance.)
Blessings.
I do. But during the time I was talking about, I'd get stomach aches not long after consuming dairy products and also had lots of, um...extra air. The lactase supplements and alternate milk did seem to help.
The problem went away, though, and I can eat dairy products without any trouble again.
farouk
Member
Some ppl can eat a huge amount and still look like a skeleton.
Others can go on strict diets, and yet be circumferentially challenged...
Angel
Member
Everyone's body is unique. I am a large-boned woman, therefore I look a lot thinner than what I actually weigh. It's kinda awesome 
Still need to exercise every day and eat right though.
I believe that if I do all I can to be healthy, then it doesn't matter what I weigh. My conscience is that my body is God's temple, and I need to care for it.
Still need to exercise every day and eat right though.
I believe that if I do all I can to be healthy, then it doesn't matter what I weigh. My conscience is that my body is God's temple, and I need to care for it.
farouk
Member
Everyone's body is unique. I am a large-boned woman, therefore I look a lot thinner than what I actually weigh. It's kinda awesome
Still need to exercise every day and eat right though.
I believe that if I do all I can to be healthy, then it doesn't matter what I weigh. My conscience is that my body is God's temple, and I need to care for it.
Angel:
Yes, I like the temple symbol. It's in the New Testament.
Blessings.
J
JCitoL
Guest
a glass of milk with cereal ingested just before bedtime is a good remedy for better sleep
Blessings
Blessings