Why do you understand the Bible?

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  1. wondering

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    Why do you believe you understand the Bible, especially the New Testament?
    Is it important to also understand the Old Testament?
    Did you learn from reading it?
    From studying under the guidance of a church?
    Studying theology?
    From the Holy Spirit?
    Why do you think you are right in your theology?

    Pick one or all.
    It's problematic to me that we are not united in our beliefs.
     
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    I don't believe I completely understand the Bible. What I have learned for the most part came from reading it and listening to audio versions, studying, fellow Church brothers and sisters including CFnet, and so on. I'm sure the Holy Spirit is well involved.

    Why we are not united is probably coming from our sinful selves. We tend to put our own spin on what Scripture says, even though we may not always be aware of it. I believe it is our pride getting in the way.
     
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  3. wondering

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    I have to agree with you.
    If it were so easy to understand the Bible we would be united in our beliefs. Sometimes I just wish Jesus had just said everything very clearly.

    Did Paul help?
    I think he made a bit of confusion. He spoke of the great mystery, our personal salvation, and other times spoke of Israel's part and it's difficult at times to distinguish --- so we get predestination doctrine by some churches.

    I also think studying is important.
     
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  4. Allen Wynne

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    I've learned from reading the Old and New Testaments.
    I got baptized in the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues after 13 years.
    then I began to read and understand at a rapid pace like never before.
    As I look back, I've learned a lot less from the church than I once thought.
    Theology?
    Yeah, I listen to JLB .
    I'm okay.

    Would you like a cookie?

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  5. wondering

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    I think the church can set us on our way, but then it's up to us to decide how much we want to know and what we truly believe.

    When I left the RCC, I had to understand WHY purgatory wasn't a really good doctrine, WHY Mary shouldn't be a co.redemptrix (although we go too much to the other extreme), IOW, I had to really know what I believed any why.

    Also, like WIP, I learned from fellow christians, and even on this forum, which I really like.

    You mentioned JLB and I take this opportunity to say that many on this forum know a lot about theology. We may not agree with all of them, but they do have a lot of knowledge, and that includes you. I've also learned a lot from you, JLB, Parker, Chopper, Jethro, and others.
    Some have knowledge, some have inspiration, like Not_Now.Soon.

    And yes, I'll have one of those cookies.
    Maybe all five??
     
  6. Allen Wynne

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    And what would you like to drink with that?
    It's all on the house, the Lounge is picking up the tab.


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  7. wondering

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    LOL
    Don't know any of 'em.
    But I like the shape of the blue drink's glass.
    Grazie.
     
  8. Allen Wynne

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    The blue one?
    That's Russian vodka.
    The brown one is coca cola.
     
  9. Justicewolf

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    My personal relationship with the Father's word came about when I found, "The Book", version. I'd always had the KJV before, and I love it. However, The Book, really brings the scripture into a context that is like reading the love letter of a dear friend.
    And I watch certain television pastors also that align the old testament scriptures to their outlaying in the new testament passages. So that it is then brought into a full picture of the relationship of events in God's time.
    My heart swells up when I think of spending time with the Bible. Especially on stormy nights. And another thing that really brings union with God's word and my ever growing faith, is to not watch worldly television programs like I use to.
    One day to find how this would work for me, I turned on the television, this was a Sunday, and listened to pastor sermons and Christian talk shows throughout the day. I work from home now so it was very easy to do. I have Christian television shows pre-set in my Fios programming guide. I was joyous almost immediately. And all through the day I was uplifted and happy. Whereas worldly TV shows are a rollercoaster of themes and invoked emotions.

    Anyway, that's what works for me Bible wise. Hope that helps.
     
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  10. wondering

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    Ugghh.
    Make it the brown one.
    Grazie.
     
  11. reba

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    I dont ... i believe we continue to understand and grow in understanding...
    YES :nod
    So very much of my OT knowledge came from years of Sunday School.. So very many examples of Christ.. Marriage .. the Church
    Back in the 50s the AofG Sunday School lessons were very much Bible bases ..
    Seems to me all study helps are designed to bring us to the conclusion of the author of the the lessons.. sometimes that can be good sometimes not :shrug
    O yea i am right and that makes anyone else wrong... :) Nope :)Yes:) i do pray for His comfort in understanding the Word... I also know my understanding or "rightness" have changed of the years... Yet i am as saved today as 50 years ago...
    I believe i am right for today God does not change but He changes me from glory to glory.. :sohappy

    I dont believe our core beliefs are that different... We all believe He is the WAY ...

    Something that has been a huge help to me in the last years ...

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  12. Allen Wynne

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    Sorry,someone else took the last one.
     
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  13. wondering

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    Great post and testimony of God's love for you and yours for Him!
    All rolled up into one.

    I also don't watch TV. It's a waste of time.
    I watch movies and sometimes the news and Christian programs.
    There's so much to learn and know!

    Can't remember if I welcomed you to the forum...
    Blessings
     
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  14. wondering

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    PS
    That image with the universe is hypnotizing. I love it.
    God created everything and everything belongs to Him.
     
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    Thank you. :) Blessings to you and yours as well.
     
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    Thank you. :)
    I think it is a great visual metaphor for the wonder that the Bible holds.
     
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    Reba,
    Great post. You brought so many thoughts to mind:

    I'd say that my core beliefs are the same. I believe in free will. But I know that I am eternally secure if I stay with Christ, and we grow always, till the end. Once we get to heaven, we'll find out how petty our thoughts were and how great God really is.

    Yes, many biblical concepts must be studied. The Bride, The Trinity, the Holy Spirit, Atonement, Grace, etc. By reading the people we achieve spiritual truths, which in reality are all we need, but by studying scripture we also learn a lot of theology which helps us to understand the nature of God. Since we're made in His image, it's good to know His nature.

    The author of lessons we read: All has to be filtered! Sometimes we could love a preacher but disagree on one thing --- I'd listen anyway. We cannot make little Christian groups within churches. There are already too many.

    I also, of course, believe our core beliefs are the same (of all of us):
    We need salvation
    Jesus saves us
    We must worship Him and obey Him.
    That's about it...
    (a short Romans Road)
     
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  18. Allen Wynne

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    Of course, it helps to hear what Ralph has to say...
     
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    I believe the above statement is probably more true then anything else. (pride) The sin of Satan. (Ezekiel Chapter 28)
     
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    You could say that about most anything.
    It doesn't further the conversation.
    So I'm told...
     

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