Why the Seth Rich Story is the Most Important Story

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  1. Uncle Siggy

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    Why the Seth Rich Story is the Most Important Story
    By Onan Coca May 16, 2017

    There has been a lot of banter back and forth online today between those who believe that stories of Seth Rich’s murder being anything more than a robbery are conspiracy theories, and those who believe anyone who thinks Seth Rich’s murder was a simple robbery gone wrong is being naive. Can I offer a 3rd solution?

    The Seth Rich murder story doesn’t have to be either a conspiracy theory or a “simple” mugging gone wrong.

    It can be a wholly believable combination of the two. Fate meeting pure happenstance.

    If a new report from Fox News is accurate, Seth Rich was the source of the hacked DNC emails. (We first reported on this story late last night.)

    An FBI forensic report of Rich’s computer — generated within 96 hours after Rich’s murder — showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News.

    “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department…

    The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21.

    Rest of the article is at the link: http://constitution.com/seth-rich-story-important-story/
     
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    A couple weeks ago we tried to let every one know the rudeness is out of line for a Christian Site..
    This request for some common respect will be plastered all over the place.
    Lets put our thinking caps on and word our posts to the issues and not each other ...
    The," watch how close i can come to violating the TOS and get by with it " are getting old . Under the radar snarks while they may be funny are extremely rude.
    Not necessarily directed at the last poster...
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    Even the UK papers at the time linked Mr Rich with Mr MacFadyen, and scoffed at the idea that the Russians were involved.

    At the time, that information was equally scoffed at by the mainstream media and therefore didn't bother with the story.

    About the same time, we were told that some within our alphabet security agencies were able to imitate the signatures of other countries online, in order to 'confuse' others as to the real source of hacks or probes.

    And again, about that time last year, officials in the state of Georgia reported that Homeland Security had managed to get in to their registered voters rolls, without Georgia's authorization.

    All of these were mentioned in threads here during that time period last year.
     
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    This cut too close to the Dem mafia.
     
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    This is interesting.
     
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    Since this started getting more attention a few days ago the frenzy on Trump has turned up exponentially, guess they figure it will help bury this and distract everybody...
     
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    It is an odd sensation to be living through what may prove to be the largest scandal in American political history. What began as a generalized sense of fear and anxiety upon Trump's election has now begun to focus into something more acute and specific. Yesterday The Washington Post broke what may prove to be a truly historic story, revealing that Donald Trump gave classified information to the Russians in their already controversial White House meeting. As a result of that story, according to the Daily Beast, the White House staff entered into a state of panic.

    Communications staff and senior staffers at the White House were literally “hiding in offices,” according to a senior Trump aide, as a gaggle of White House press stormed White House hallways just after the Washington Post story broke on Monday evening.

    “Do not ask me about how this looks, we all know how this looks,” the senior aide told The Daily Beast on Monday.

    They formulated a plan and began executing it. Denials were made. Deputy National Security Adviser Dina Powell said the story was "false," and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said that he was "in the room" and that "it didn't happen." The problem, of course, is that plans only work if your boss agrees to stick to them, and Donald Trump has never met a plan that he didn't enjoy blowing up by going on a Twitter rant while watching cable news. This morning, despite those strongly worded denials from his administration, Donald Trump went on Twitter and confirmed that he did indeed reveal classified information to a foreign adversary who we know for a fact carried out a hostile cyberattack on our nation during the most recent election.

    http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-leaked-classified-info-to-russians

    All his spokesmen, denying everything, and then he blurts out the truth in a tweet. Perfect.
     
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    Obviously, Mr Trump did not disclose secret secret information ... but those who are out to get him have really blown this out of proportion.

    The point that Mr Trump and others have also made is the fact that some classified information can be shared by the president.

    So.....

    1. Mr Trump did not share secret classified information, and

    2. He had the authority to share certain classified information should he have chosen to share it.

    Mr Trump, Mr McMaster, and others have said that the President did not share information he shouldn't.

    Again, we're dealing with false news that have caused many to go hyper about this topic.
     
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    He did share classified information that was given to us by another nation, with the understanding that we wouldn't share it.

    Israel Said to Be Source of Secret Intelligence Trump Gave to Russians
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/...rump-classified-intelligence-russia.html?_r=0

    You're quite right that he can release classified information if he decides to do so. It's not a crime. It's reckless and endangers American security, but it's not a crime for him to do it. It would have been a crime for anyone else.
     
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    So the leaker was able to gain access to the Israeli intelligence and distribute it to the media he/she chose? There isn't proof that the Israeli intelligence was actually discussed between the President and the Russian Ambassador.

    I'm more concerned about the leaker.

    Israel may very well have shared their intelligence with the Russians during their discussions. The leaker didn't bother to find out if that had happened.

    Still, the pathological hatred of Mr Trump will cause many to believe anything that could potentially adversely affect this current Administration while easily forgetting that the actual facts have not been provided.
     
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    'pathological hatred' is a very accurate description of what we see here. I wonder if the writers of it realize how much damage they do to their own spirit when they spread their hate; I would guess not otherwise they would not do it. I am all for criticizing our leaders when they do wrong or something detrimental to society but I for one would like to see the spreading of the hate and lies come to an end......I won't hold my breath though since pathological liars are unable to prevent themselves from lying....it is a recognized mental illness.
     
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    Now don't forget "We're the angry ones" (according to them)... :rolleyes :screwloose
     
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    Integrity and some news reporters is akin to an honest devil .
     
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    (Mindless hatred against Hillary Clinton displayed)

    Unless it's a republican, of course. Haven't heard you praise a democrat or criticize a republican. I don't think you're responsible for the worst of it here, but if you were just a little more even-handed and rational in your comments, it would help you.
     
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    :rofl2:hysterical

    What can a democrat be praised for?.......supporting abortion?.....pushing the lgbt agenda?......regulating business out of the country?.......doubling the national debt in 8 years?......raising taxes?......destroying the health insurance market?......guess if I was a progressive leftist I could praise them for such things; thank God I am not a progressive leftist.

    BTW, I have criticized RINO's here many times......
     
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    Now you should know by now that the only thing important is the political ideology not the end results...
     
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    I bet he finds that to be annoying...
     
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    Siggy explains the value system of the republican party:

     
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    Guess some people have not addressed their reading comprehension issues......
     

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