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Will the restrainer be removed prior to the Rapture?

Can the Holy Spirit be removed if there are Saints during the Great Tribulation

  • Dan 7:21 states the Anti Christ makes war with the Saints

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The worst is the death of the soul,ie the 2nd death physical death should mean nothing to a Christian

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

This is important that you understand that there is only one person that can kill both your body and the soul, and that person is the Almighty God Himself. He created both your body and your soul, and just as He created both, He also can destroy both body and soul. This also documents just where it is that the wicked souls will be destroyed.

The deception is what can lead to the above happening

Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you."

This is the number one warning, "Take heed that no man deceive you." Deception will be the foremost thing to guard against in the latter days, that will consummate the end of this age. This means that these events will not happen all at one time, but will take place over a period of time. These warnings or signs that Jesus is about to give us, are the seven seals that are given us in the Book of Revelation.

These are an exact overlay of the seven events, which are the seven seals that we should be watching for today.
I understand what you are saying, but that is not want I meant by the worst that can happen to us as being a child of God. I'm talking about the worldly persecutions unto death and especially what will happen to those who are in Christ that refuse to take the mark of the beast when the son of perdition takes his throne. It will be a great time of faith to those who are in Christ and He in them. We should never fear that which will come before the return of Christ, but to stay grounded in the Lord no matter what man can do against us.
 

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Has everything to do with it,as the 2nd beast is satan himself.Christ returns at the 7th,,ie,777,so satan gets kicked out before,ie 555,but he appears at,666
satan is the destroyer,just as Christ has many names,so does satan.
There are three woes in Revelations as each one is worse than the other. The first one starts with the opening of the seventh seal in Rev 8:1 through Rev 9:12 that include the first five trumpets. The second woe starts in Rev 9:13 with the sixth trumpet and ends in Rev 11:14. The third woe starts with the seventh trumpet in Rev 11:15 ending in Rev 20:15.

Part of the first woe is God using this angel to open the pit as he is given the key to open it. He was never in it, but only opened it. The purpose of the locust was to torment those who reject Christ as the torment is so great that would seek death, but death could not come to them. It is Gods plan that by using the locust man would repent and turn back to God. This happens at the fifth trumpet sounding, way before the war in heaven when Satan is cast out of heaven and mystery Babylon is revealed and then destroyed.
 
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There are three woes in Revelations as each one is worse than the other. The first one starts with the opening of the seventh seal in Rev 8:1 through Rev 9:12 that include the first five trumpets. The second woe starts in Rev 9:13 with the sixth trumpet and ends in Rev 11:14. The third woe starts with the seventh trumpet in Rev 11:15 ending in Rev 20:15.

Part of the first woe is God using this angel to open the pit as he is given the key to open it. He was never in it, but only opened it. The purpose of the locust was to torment those who reject Christ as the torment is so great that would seek death, but death could not come to them. It is Gods plan that by using the locust man would repent and turn back to God. This happens at the fifth trumpet sounding, way before the war in heaven when Satan is cast out of heaven and mystery Babylon is revealed and then destroyed.
I see the 7th seal trump and vial happening at around the same time rather than one after the other ie,seal,trumps and then vials

The link below shows how I see it

http://mark13records.com/

What do you see the locust as?
 
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I understand what you are saying, but that is not want I meant by the worst that can happen to us as being a child of God. I'm talking about the worldly persecutions unto death and especially what will happen to those who are in Christ that refuse to take the mark of the beast when the son of perdition takes his throne. It will be a great time of faith to those who are in Christ and He in them. We should never fear that which will come before the return of Christ, but to stay grounded in the Lord no matter what man can do against us.
Agree with you completely ,that's why we are to endure till the end,no matter what comes our way.
When satan takes his throne it won't be him that's doing the killing,rather those who think they do God a favor

John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."

satans purpose is deception,which is making people believe he is Christ,he can't do that if he goes around killing people.If you fall for it,by not knowing the true Word of God,He (God) will send you that strong dellusion

II Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [send them a working of error], that they should a lie;"

If you want to believe a lie, God will allow it; in fact he will help you into the system of deceptions Satan will bring on the earth. Do you really think God will come here and personally show you, and talk to you when you refuse to believe His Word, when He gave it in such detail through the prophets and His Son. If you desire to believe that your going to fly out of here, and refuse His word, He will so block your mind that you will not be capable of understanding truth. God will send the "strong delusion" over your mind. The strong delusion is an act of love given by God for your protection.
 
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I think this world is in for a whooole lot of supernatural happenings on a huge scale in the future. How else are we supposed to take this? Lol..
 

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Edward, many Christians have no clue what is about to happen in the world, especially when the son of perdition takes his seat and deceives those with his lying signs and wonders causing many to take the mark of this beast and bow down before him.
 

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I see the 7th seal trump and vial happening at around the same time rather than one after the other ie,seal,trumps and then vials

The link below shows how I see it

http://mark13records.com/

What do you see the locust as?
First I want to apologize for the length of this post, but don't know how to shorten it more than I have.

I see these locust as not like the locust we know of, but different in their description and being instruments of God during His great wrath. They are sent out to torment those who are none of Christ as God in His patience and longsuffering would want these people to turn back to Him, but yet many will curse Him instead as they will seek to die, but will not be able to on their own.

I did see that website you posted and do agree with some of it, but disagree with the NWO as being a communist country especially with the describing of mystery Babylon and her destruction, Rev 17, 18.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seven trumpets, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
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Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

Tribulation has never been divided in sections and no where in scripture does it define any seven years as scripture say we will always have tribulations, Deut 4:30; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1Peter 1:6.

In Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been thrown out of heaven yet. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty to a world that is in great distress. Below is that of the seven kingdoms described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon.

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire and Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark, Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
 
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Those who refer to “he who now restrains” are not even sure of the identity of this restrainer, because there is not any truth to this man made doctrine.
One of the test to know what is man contrived and what is of God is this to the revealer, There is a brightening and overwhelming understanding in the mind and soul of the born again believer. There is an overwhelming calming and steadfastness and an anchor of fellowship with the Spirit confirming the revelation of revealed truth. And there is a great desire to share the truth. And the most important proof that it is revealed truth, is once you have revealed to others what the Spirit has given you, there is no anger to those who oppose you because the Truth fortifies our standing and place and the comfort as a literal Son of God, knowing we have done what we were given to do, and a sorrow for those who rebuke the revealed truth for their own understanding and are angered because others do not agree with them. Do not lean on your own understanding or the teachings of men. (Proverbs 3:2-8)
 
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Edward, many Christians have no clue what is about to happen in the world, especially when the son of perdition takes his seat and deceives those with his lying signs and wonders causing many to take the mark of this beast and bow down before him.
Glory, I believe our current trend and our government workings are a prelude to the working of the mystery of iniquity already maturing and coming to a head sooner rather than later. Many governments have come and gone through iniquity and evil works. But what is different now, is that Israel is in her own land. And that had to happen before the final days, for the beast will make a false peace with Israel and will be a Gentile from The Roman Empire Dan. 9:24-27. Rome was never destroyed, it was broken up. The United States is an exact representation of Roman Government. Even with the same Roman symbols on the senate walls. I'm not an expert on Revelation. But I know enough that what may not be clear now will be clear during The Tribulation to those who have the book.
 

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Glory, I believe our current trend and our government workings are a prelude to the working of the mystery of iniquity already maturing and coming to a head sooner rather than later. Many governments have come and gone through iniquity and evil works. But what is different now, is that Israel is in her own land. And that had to happen before the final days, for the beast will make a false peace with Israel and will be a Gentile from The Roman Empire Dan. 9:24-27. Rome was never destroyed, it was broken up. The United States is an exact representation of Roman Government. Even with the same Roman symbols on the senate walls. I'm not an expert on Revelation. But I know enough that what may not be clear now will be clear during The Tribulation to those who have the book.
Our government is a mirror image of a preset Roman government as her sister. The things I could show that are very clear, but ToS prevents me.