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Windows 10...to upgrade or to not Upgrade...discuss

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I was playing around with that little mini again and discovered that HP had installed an application to install/repair/update most of the original drivers that they put on the unit. I ran the application and noticed a couple minor changes that took place. I might try one more time to install Windows 10 with the hope that maybe the cause of the hangup before was related to driver issues.

I also found on HP's website where I can update the BIOS if it is out of date. This is a new area for me to be monkeying with so I'm a little hesitant. There seems to be rather clear instructions about how to check the current revision and then how to update if needed. Would it be worth trying?
 
Stan1953 said:
Well it only took me an hour to upgrade and so far the only thing that didn't work was my Norton A/V that did not have a patch for Windows 10. It is supplied by my ISP but is Norton. Apparently they didn't think my ISP needed to be prioritized. Anyway the only think I don't like is the lock screen that I can't disable in the Home version I upgraded to. Looking for a work around to it.
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From what I've read, Windows does not recommend using any third party A/V software at this time due to potential compatibility issues I guess. It comes resident with Windows Defender which I believe is the newly upgraded Security Essentials. They appear to have come full circle with that one. Started out as Windows Defender then replaced that with Security Essentials and now back to Defender I think.
 
Lockscreen in Windows 10.

The AV vendors will figure it out eventually. Defender is fine for now.

BIOS updating may help with Win 10. If you make a mistake, the computer might not start at all, so be sure you know what you are doing before you try it.
 
WIP said:
I was playing around with that little mini again and discovered that HP had installed an application to install/repair/update most of the original drivers that they put on the unit. I ran the application and noticed a couple minor changes that took place. I might try one more time to install Windows 10 with the hope that maybe the cause of the hangup before was related to driver issues.

I also found on HP's website where I can update the BIOS if it is out of date. This is a new area for me to be monkeying with so I'm a little hesitant. There seems to be rather clear instructions about how to check the current revision and then how to update if needed. Would it be worth trying?
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I believe so WIP. Flashing the BIOS, as long as you print the directions is a good thing. Just be sure to hold the male ego in check and follow directions and it will work.
 
Michael74 said:
Lockscreen in Windows 10.
The AV vendors will figure it out eventually. Defender is fine for now.
BIOS updating may help with Win 10. If you make a mistake, the computer might not start at all, so be sure you know what you are doing before you try it.
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Yes I've been to a few sites with this fix but only ONE (geek.com) said it was only for the PRO version. The key that your link identifies is NOT in the Home version. I've already sent feedback to MS for a fix.
 
WIP said:
From what I've read, Windows does not recommend using any third party A/V software at this time due to potential compatibility issues I guess. It comes resident with Windows Defender which I believe is the newly upgraded Security Essentials. They appear to have come full circle with that one. Started out as Windows Defender then replaced that with Security Essentials and now back to Defender I think.
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Norton's latest A/V software does install and work on Windows 10, but they also market a Security Essentials version for ISPs, which mine uses but they haven't issued a Win10 patch for it yet. I'll look into the security essentials thing to see what it does. Thanks.
 
Michael74 said:
MBAM free on-demand scanner said theirs was Win 10 ready too. I read a few of the comments, and people were having trouble with it. I will wait a bit.
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Yeh, I activated Windows Defender and will see how it goes. I'm leaving VAN on at the same time so hopefully they will not cause problem running together.
 
I finally got it! In my troubleshooting quest, I stumbled on a "How To" link on the Microsoft website that explained how to install using an ISO file instead of Windows Update. It turned out to be rather easy to do. Just have to download and run the "Media Creation Tool" and click the option to "Upgrade This PC" and follow the steps. You can also use the tool to create a media file on a USB flash drive to run on another PC.
 
I am running a triple layer defense with theaaa Defender, Bits are and Ad-ware. I needed a bit of experimenting to find a mix that worked. I also found and am returning to installing Comodo first and then Ad-aware. I really like the way those, in that order work with the Windows Defender.
 
WIP said:
I finally got it! In my troubleshooting quest, I stumbled on a "How To" link on the Microsoft website that explained how to install using an ISO file instead of Windows Update. It turned out to be rather easy to do. Just have to download and run the "Media Creation Tool" and click the option to "Upgrade This PC" and follow the steps. You can also use the tool to create a media file on a USB flash drive to run on another PC.
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Burning the isolated as a disk is going to make you into a certified geek WIP.
 
WIP said:
I finally got it! In my troubleshooting quest, I stumbled on a "How To" link on the Microsoft website that explained how to install using an ISO file instead of Windows Update. It turned out to be rather easy to do. Just have to download and run the "Media Creation Tool" and click the option to "Upgrade This PC" and follow the steps. You can also use the tool to create a media file on a USB flash drive to run on another PC.
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You shoulda asked me...that is actually what I did. Made a bootable USB drive out of the download, although being a USB 1, it was pretty slow.
 
I listen to a lot of geeky tech podcasts in the car, and the "pros" are almost unanimous in saying that the built-in anti-virus program in Windows is plenty sufficient, and it is always up to date. I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest that there's value in paying for third party applications. I think they effectively established their importance back in the day when Windows didn't provide the security it does today, and many users can't let them go.

I haven't had any problems with 10 since installing. I've been researching Chromebooks for a while just to have another device around the house. That would mean no Windows. But I'll keep the laptop with 10.
 
Mike said:
I listen to a lot of geeky tech podcasts in the car, and the "pros" are almost unanimous in saying that the built-in anti-virus program in Windows is plenty sufficient, and it is always up to date. I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest that there's value in paying for third party applications. I think they effectively established their importance back in the day when Windows didn't provide the security it does today, and many users can't let them go.

I haven't had any problems with 10 since installing. I've been researching Chromebooks for a while just to have another device around the house. That would mean no Windows. But I'll keep the laptop with 10.
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I have not examined the Chrome OS but from the reviews and White Papers I've read they took Ubuntu and made it into a Browser fed Operating System. Not all have agreed on that point so the jury is still out.

I just yesterday brought my 7 to life once more on this laptop and once I manage all the updates once more, I will upgrade it to 10 again, on the Windows Partition, keeping it a Dual Boot. My Ubuntu never seems to slide off the road.
 
Mike said:
I listen to a lot of geeky tech podcasts in the car, and the "pros" are almost unanimous in saying that the built-in anti-virus program in Windows is plenty sufficient, and it is always up to date. I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest that there's value in paying for third party applications. I think they effectively established their importance back in the day when Windows didn't provide the security it does today, and many users can't let them go.

I haven't had any problems with 10 since installing. I've been researching Chromebooks for a while just to have another device around the house. That would mean no Windows. But I'll keep the laptop with 10.
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Windows defender seems to be working fine, but I do notice my browser has slowed down so I'm not sure if that is because of Windows or something else.

I use my Android tablet most of the day and only use my PC to post on here and other forums as well as accessing my main email account.
 
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