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Pogo

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#1
Since you have reformatted this site's screen layout to conflict with the format of the rest of my favorite haunts, If I adjust my browser for this one site, it will be skewed for all the others.

You can't enlarge everything visible here without losing something. Now most of my navigation buttons (pages, forum jump) are hidden!

Thanks a lot for making it more difficult to participate in these forum!

Why not go to a larger font on everything, while reducing the characters per line of posted text to about 25 or thirty, which will allow you to bring all of the navigation buttons back into access of the mouse without having to laboriously arrow left and the arrow right, over and over and over again.

In short, I would like to suggest that you consider making this site MORE user friendly, rather than less!

Pogo
 
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Rick W

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I'm going to assume this is a desktop computer you use for the internet?
Is 800 x 600 by choice or a hardware issue?
If it's a hardware issue I would be willing and very happy to help you get your screen resolution up to at least 1024 x 768.
I build my computers rather than buy them for a variety of reasons. Therefore I have a pool of parts laying around doing nothing. I can let you have what you may need without cost. At least someone will get some use out of the parts I have no plans on using.
If you let me know your computer specs such as the processor, present video card, monitor and motherboard (If possible) and the OS you're running I should be able to match you up with a vid card that will get that resolution up to snuff.
I can also upload a few utilities to my FTP storage that you can grab hold of to find the required info.
Let me know if I can help.
 

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No, it is an older Dell desktop, and the resolution is software selectable.

As I recall, going to higher resolutions shrinks the entire screen, or was it a higher color pallete, I think mine is now set at a spectrum of 16k . Which means that I have to squint to read anything.

It's been a while since I've tinkered with it. Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't think that it's hardware. My CRT monitor is 1080.

If you have a suggestion, I'll give it a try!

Pogo
 
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Rick W

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Yes, a higher resolution will shrink things but you can also increase the size of your default fonts so you can again read everything.

1) Try setting your res to 1024x768.
2) If that holds then use your monitor controls to resize and move the screen to fully fit the monitor screen then try bumping your refresh rate up one notch.
3) If that holds bump up your color a notch.

If all that is ok then you can go back to your original settings until we get you to the point that you can then deal with font size etc. to get it where you can again read everything. I'm not at home and can't play this computer at work to get the exact paths for that so I can do that when I get home.
In the meantime what OS are you running? Win98?

1080?
Is that the model number and what brand monitor is it?

BTW, I have a brand new Emachines 17" monitor still in the box, sealed, just over a year old collecting dust. If you need it then let me know... it's yours if you just pay the shipping.
 
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As with many web sites these days, this site seems to be optimized for 1024 x 768 (and higher). It is assumed that most users have a 17" or larger monitor. Higher resolutions have a definite advantage. Fonts are sharper, graphics are much better also. Also, depending on the running applications, higher resolutions allow the user to display more than one window at a time.
As I recall, going to higher resolutions shrinks the entire screen, or was it a higher color pallete, I think mine is now set at a spectrum of 16k . Which means that I have to squint to read anything.
Rick is correct; higher resolutions do make everything smaller. That is because there are more pixels vertically and horizontally. Hence the reason for the increased sharpness. The color spectrum tells you the amount of color combinations you can get out of your screen and doesn't change image size. 16k isn't that bad at all. 32k is better, but most users will not notice the difference.

Plus if you lacking in the video memory dept., it may cause the screen to "redraw" images a bit slower. This is why gamers opt for as much video memory as they can afford. The same with working with graphics, like photos.

One thing I might suggest is, switch to a browser like Firefox. It's free, highly and easily customizable. It's what is called, Open Source and many programmers write some great add ons for it. It's also much less susceptible to security leaks.

The feature that you would benefit from is the ability to easily increase or decrease text only. :) It also has built in spell checking. :biggrin

The bottom line is, if you can bump up your resolution to 1024 x 768 and adjust the monitor's resolution you are up to today's standard. If you are running MS Windows of some variety, the icons and their fonts can be resized though the desktop's properties. It may sound like a hassle, but it's something you will have to do eventually... unless you buy a now PC one day; then it will all be done for you already. ;-)

I'm like Potluck; I build them from the motherboard on up. I'm a PC control freak, LOL. I get to choose the mainboard, the memory, hard drive, video card, etc. I guess I'm just "wired" that way. :-D
 
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One more thing and it's "bugging" me. I looked at all the fixes and changes made and none of them should have affected the site's display to my knowledge. :smt102
 

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Hmm...

I haven't changed any of my setting yet, but today, since this morning, your site has been displayed the old way, which I call "properly".

I was thinking that you guys had reset everything back to normal. This is confusing!!

I'm running Win XP Pro, with a 17" Gateway EV700 CrystalScan 1080 dpi (Dots Per Inch, I think is what that means?)

Thanks for the offer on the monitor but I've still got another GW2K 17"er sitting in the corner gathering dust.

I'm going to bump a few of the settings that you mentioned, but if this screws everything up, prepared to be strangled!!!

Pogo
 

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Ok...

I've got it running at 1024x768 with a refresh of 75Hz and 32 BIT (instead of K) color.

Everything is real small, too!

How do I do the font thing?

Oh yeah, the video card is ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X with 8 MB memory.

Pogo
 
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Rick W

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Good. You definately have the hardware.
Is your monitor 15" or 17"?
I'll get the info to set the font. It's somewhere in the same place you set your resolution but i can't check where until I get home.
In the meantime you can leave all as is and change your res back to 800x600 until I get that info.
It's under "Advanced" where you set your res. I'll find out exactly where when I get home.
 

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It's a Gateway EV700 17" monitor.

I found the Avanced settings button and raised the font from normal to large, rather than extra large, then rebooted.

It's like everything is half and half. The desktop icons had resized and rearranged themselves, but my wallpaper was still shrunk. I found the stretch button for that, so it's ok now.

123 and some other sites headers fits the screen but the thread text and borders are too narrow, about 1 inch of white vertical border space left and right.

But some other sites have adjusted themselves, and fit perfectly.

BTW - The text and everything IS sharper!

The Control Panel indicates that the fonts under appearances may be the area to adjust, I'm not sure though.

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Great, you're getting it under control. :biggrin

If you still have issues with font size in your browser (I will assume you are using Internet Explorer), there is a setting in the browser's menu bar. It's most likely under {Edit}. I can't help with that now because I'm not running Windows and I haven't tried installing IE in my Linux OS. I prefer using Firefox anyway.
 
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Great!
You'll find more and more sites going with a higher resolution.
About the only thing you may want to play with under Appearances\Advanced is the icon text size and font.

For Internet Explorer text size is under View\ Text Size.

For Firefox web browser you can play with text size under Tools/Options and select "Content".

There's not a lot that can be done about sites with wide borders since these sites would have the width set to a particular maximum and won't fill the screen from edge to edge.

Do you have your screen adjusted to the monitor properly? You should see as little black around the edges as possible but not "over" the edge or top/bottom. This can be set in the menu found with the buttons on the front of the monitor.

Once you get everything set as you like allow yourself a little time to get used to everything. You may need to fiddle with some other applications but in the end it'll be worth it.

If you have any questions about anything then let me know. I'll try to help as much as I can.
 

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Yeah, I had already enlarged the IE font size under the View tab, too.

I think I've got everything humming ok!

You won't believe this though, every site that I normally visit is way better that it was since I've changed my settings, EXCEPT 123!

I can see that the resolution is better, the characters ARE sharper, but they are SMALLER, like news print!

MAN! Of all the breaks! But, at least I'm comfortable enough with the settings that I can undo everything if I decide to.

Thanks,

Pogo
 
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I remember doing the same thing you're going through... from 800x600 to 1024x768.
Things seemed a bit too small but what I found was that after about a week going back to 800x600 just wasn't all that great anymore. I got used to it and going back seemed things were way too big. Once you've seen pics and surfed the net for while you'll get used to it. You'll see more than you had before.
 

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Potluck and Vic,

Thanks for the help in upgrading the format of my screen!

This is definately the way to go!

Pogo

BTW - Vic, a friend is urging me to upgrade the hardware of one of my older boxes, and install a version of Linux, Linspire, on it.

What say ye?
 
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Pogo said:
Potluck and Vic,

Thanks for the help in upgrading the format of my screen!

This is definately the way to go!

Pogo

BTW - Vic, a friend is urging me to upgrade the hardware of one of my older boxes, and install a version of Linux, Linspire, on it.

What say ye?
First off, you are welcome. My knowledge of computers is God-given and it wouldn't be right to not share it with fellow believers, so HE gets all the glory... but thanks and again, you are welcome.

About Linux... your friend is correct, don't go too old on the hardware, you may have run into driver and other compatibility issues that will knock the wind right out of you sails and leave you disgruntle with Linux. Also, after trying Linspire, I wasn't very "inspired". I did some research and decided to go with Ubuntu. Check out our "Linux" thread in the "Tech Talk" forum. Lots of good info in there.

Note, though most Linux distros are free and easy to setup and use, don't expect an easy transition from WIndows to Linux without a small learning curve and some compromises. The transition is a struggle for diehard Windows users. But all in all, I'm liking it and for what I do, made the transition easily. Best of all is, the available software is free and easy to install and use, especially if you use the distribution's available software package manager.
 

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Hmm...

I remember a co-worker once who was into Linux and he seemed to grieve over the fact that he had to run older hardware, for which there were existing drivers, or write his own drivers (which he knew not how) if he wanted to upgrade to the latest and greatest gear.

That was several years ago, though.

I already use the Windows version of Sun's Open Office, and I love it!

I was thinking of going with a new fast CPU/motherboard with a T-byte HD, and then use only older, Linux proven, perif./cards - video, modem/wi-fi, sound, CD-DVD burners, etc., if necessary.

Is it possible to install both Win XP Pro and a Linux OS on the same HD and run either one as you choose. This would be a nice option to have if one goes down.

I didn't realize that this site even had a hardware forum, I'll check it out, too!

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Hmm...

I remember a co-worker once who was into Linux and he seemed to grieve over the fact that he had to run older hardware, for which there were existing drivers, or write his own drivers (which he knew not how) if he wanted to upgrade to the latest and greatest gear.

That was several years ago, though
Not any more! Most Linux distros rival Windows recognition of hardware. I was surprised and thrilled at how easily and quickly my installation went. Only in rare cases... and because of sheer determination to get something to work, would one have to write and/or compile their software and drivers.

I was thinking of going with a new fast CPU/motherboard with a T-byte HD, and then use only older, Linux proven, perif./cards - video, modem/wi-fi, sound, CD-DVD burners, etc., if necessary.
There ya go, downgrade only if needed. I'm running Linux right now on a new MB, a dual core 2.2Ghz Intel CPU, 2 GB mem., an ATI 128 MB Radeon series card, SATA drives and a DVD/RW drive. All of it worked, no magic wand needed either. :lol: