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i have a really dumb question. since fdle will investigate that shooting by that officer. where is the justification? was he a threat with a knife? did all other options fail. 6 times he shot and well cops took pictures. that is how i got to see the victims face.

You know what , when a cop sees a person naked eating the face of another person in the streets , please go right ahead and shoot the person . And if the first bullet doesn't stop the person , please continue shooting until the person is no longer a threat to any other living person .

Sad and true we don't have all the answers but feeding on another persons face is crossing a very bad line .
 
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As fore the pictures of the victim , I don't want to see that type of image and I pray that that poor person can live and , dear God , what does one say ?

I will be praying for him and I hope God can help bring him some peace , once again what does one say , or what can one hope for in a situation like that ?

It's just so so very sad all around from the victim , to the cop , to the perpetrator
 
Jason, wasn't the man chewing on the victims face and ignoring commands to stop? If so, that would be justifiable.
 
Jason, wasn't the man chewing on the victims face and ignoring commands to stop? If so, that would be justifiable.
no, it wouldnt. he could see he wasnt armed. a tazer if the cop had one would have sufficed. i may be wrong but well lets say that the cops took a TON of pictures of the victim. if they had that time then why did they have to shoot him?
 
no, it wouldnt. he could see he wasnt armed. a tazer if the cop had one would have sufficed. i may be wrong but well lets say that the cops took a TON of pictures of the victim. if they had that time then why did they have to shoot him?

He was armed. He was using his teeth as a deadly weapon.

Society likes to spend weeks debating decisions that police had seconds to process.

Your final point is kind of meaningless... "Let's assume something that allows you to conclude the worst about the police, despite having no grounds to do so."
 
I'm locked in my underground bunker reading mine now.

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Being armed is not a pre-requisit before an officer of the state can discharge his firearm. Discharging a firearm is not done with the intent to kill someone but to prevent or stop someone from causing serious bodily injury or death to you OR another.

Example: Person A is for what ever reason is unable defend himself and getting his face torn off by Person B. Person B was warned to cease and desist but choose to disregard the command and continued to cause Person A seriously bodily injury or death. Person B even went so far to respond to the command by growling at the officer before continuing to gnaw away again at Person A's face.

Kudos to the officers for following the departments use of force policy. I would have done the same thing.
 
Being armed is not a pre-requisit before an officer of the state can discharge his firearm. Discharging a firearm is not done with the intent to kill someone but to prevent or stop someone from causing serious bodily injury or death to you OR another.

Example: Person A is for what ever reason is unable defend himself and getting his face torn off by Person B. Person B was warned to cease and desist but choose to disregard the command and continued to cause Person A seriously bodily injury or death. Person B even went so far to respond to the command by growling at the officer before continuing to gnaw away again at Person A's face.

Kudos to the officers for following the departments use of force policy. I would have done the same thing.

^^THIS^^^^ :thumbsup
 
no, it wouldnt. he could see he wasnt armed. a tazer if the cop had one would have sufficed. i may be wrong but well lets say that the cops took a TON of pictures of the victim. if they had that time then why did they have to shoot him?
The officer's job is to serve and protect, and in this case the "serving" is to society and the "protecting" is to the guy with less than a full face now.

The officer did what he had to do, and he was in full compliance with departmental policy and well as common sense. The perp caused the officer to fire by not obeying the officers commands to stop.

The perp was on either meth or LSD and was, in no way, going to stop. The officer's job became one of protecting the victim. Yes, it is that simple.
 
"Let's do lunch, and you are it..."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/31/justice/maryland-alleged-cannibal/index.html

Hours after his family members alerted police to a human head and two hands they discovered stashed in metal tins, a Maryland man admitted killing his housemate, cutting him up, then eating his heart and part of his brain, authorities said.

I think of all of the comical crap about "surviving zombie attacks" on the internet in the past few years. OBVIOUSLY, these whimsical stories have sunk into the brains of the psychotic, drug users and other assorted humans who make me wonder if Darwin didn't have it right after all....
 
He was armed. He was using his teeth as a deadly weapon.

Society likes to spend weeks debating decisions that police had seconds to process.

Your final point is kind of meaningless... "Let's assume something that allows you to conclude the worst about the police, despite having no grounds to do so."
in inquired to those that in the jobs of law enforcement. but i will say this if he was just naked and punching him. would that justify use of lethal force?

a fist can be a deadly weapon but well does blunt force in a fight immediately mean lethal force. yes he was justified to be shot. that said miami/metro dade is known for corruption. i live near that city. grandma ere here death did too.so please DONT assume that i hate cops when i dont.
 
in inquired to those that in the jobs of law enforcement. but i will say this if he was just naked and punching him. would that justify use of lethal force?.


We could fill this server with what ifs. I think a judgement call can only be made at the time of the incident. But an officers presence alone could be enough to stop a beating, sometimes the LEO might have to step it up with verbal commands, pressure points, joint manipulation, or even a good old fashioned butt whooping with his baton and then if needed deadly force. But only he can make that call.

Frankly, I think that officer was far too generous by warning zombiedude. I would have unloaded as soon as I got out of the car. But thats just me :)
 
I agree with the use of lethal force on anyone dumb enough to attempt such a stunt.

An unarmed man shouldnt bar the use of lethal force simply because he doesnt wield a weapon.In our example here there are several considerations for both the victim and responding officers.

For the victim:
A man was eating his face for crying out loud,which should be enough justification as is.Facial injuries of that degree are also considered life-threatening due to potential/probable airway complications.As they say if you dont have an airway,you dont have anything..death quickly follows.Aspiration of his own blood as well as tissue obstruction to the airway would have been an extreme threat to life,and Im honestly shocked the guy pulled through.Another consideration is the fact that the full extent of the mans injury could not be assessed by the officers responding to the scene.Had he been beaten?Had he been shot/stabbed/bludgeoned?To what degree,and how would prior injury stack on top of facial digestion to make death a very real and near outcome?Time was obviously not on his side and the proper response was to rid him of the threat,and immediately.

For the cops:
Of course the primary concern is the threat of injury to officers.Just because the guy is naked,doesnt mean there isnt a knife/gun/other lethal object on the ground nearby,under the victim or otherwise out of sight.Obviously a man whos committed himself to a facial banquet means business and is willing to go to any conceivable length to inflict injury/death on anyone he comes in contact with.Physical contact with him would have been dangerous with him not only for those reasons,but the fact that hes likely covered in human blood,which could possibly be infected with HIV/AIDS/Hepatitis/herpagonosyphylaids.Such attackers will often sling the stuff around in an attempt to hold off officers or actually infect them with whatever they have.

If we wish to look at a biblical approach our own loving Father knew that there would be times of necessity in which lethal force/capital punishment is needed.In Genesis 9:6 we see the following quote "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."I realize that many things changed since then,but I fully believe that this sentiment still stands and that there are people deserving of such justice.

The bottom line is quite simple..if you dont want to be injured or killed then dont try to inflict harm on others.If you do,then the result is on you.We shouldnt try to rally behind murderers and the like or debate the use of lethal force when someones life is clearly in danger.It almost reminds me of the home invaders who sue the homeowner when they cut themselves on the very window they broke to gain access to the home.

So..zombies beware.If I catch one in my house the Bushmaster will bark long before anyone has a chance to tase the fellow.

On a side note:
As an avid fan of zombie movies,and of course the recent series The Walking Dead..they were pretty freaky to hear,particularly the one were all talking about.Obviously the guys were likely loaded up or mental,but still.Made me stop and wonder what the heck is going on.
 
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i have no desire to see zombie movies. i have seen flesh eating diseases that was too cose for comfort.

now then if that was during the hurricanes and i was there i wouldnt have to justify him being shot. that is if i was there responding to that.
 
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