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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: NEW ROME AND BABYLON THE GREAT
("Come out of her, My people...")
​

In the days of the apostle John, at the time that the Lord gave him the revelation, “Babylon” was Rome.

America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.

Rome (which would have been Babylon, had the events foretold in the Revelation taken place at the time it was given) was a city that was also a nation; so Babylon today (like the original city of Babylon), is not just a city but also representative of a nation.


The Babylon Checklist:

  • America is the great importer and customer of the world. She buys all its goods, and other nations profit from and depend upon her business. (Revelation 18:3, 11-14)
  • America has dominion over the kings of the earth economically, and perhaps militarily. (Revelation 17:18)
  • America is a multicultural nation, as Rome also was. (Revelation 17:15)
  • America bought slaves (the transatlantic slave trade)---and she still has them, in the form of secret slavery and sex slavery---just as Rome bought slaves. (Revelation 18:13)
  • America is wealthy, as Rome was. (Revelation 18:16,17)
  • America is a self-indulgent lover of pleasures, as Rome was. (Isaiah 47:8, Revelation 18:7)
  • All the nations of the world have drunk the wine of the passion of America’s sexual immorality, through her sexually immoral and perverted movies and music, which are exported to the nations of the world and enjoyed by them. (Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 17:2, 18:3)
  • America is the mother of earth's abominations, via the influence of her movies and music, and her immoral pop-culture and values, which the nations of the world imbibe and emulate, corrupting themselves likewise. (Revelation 17:5)


(Contrary to popular belief, and the assertions of some patriotic Americans, the United States of America was not founded as a Christian nation, nor is it a Christian nation. The USA is not a theocracy, and it is not governed by the New Testament, even though some Biblical principles may have been included in or have influenced its constitution and some of its founding fathers may have been deists or Christians. The history of this country is not a Christian history according to the New Testament’s teachings, even though a majority of its population may have historically been professing Christians of some kind. And it certainly isn’t in any way a Christian nation now, by government or by culture, even though Christians live here---quite comfortably, I might add...)


Of all the nations in the world, the USA is the one that lines up best with the Bible’s description of Babylon, the great city of the last days (which city could be New York City---the home of Wall Street, and the most iconic and famous American city---representative of the whole of the USA, as the city of Rome was representative of the Roman nation and as the city of Babylon was representative of the Babylonian nation).


So, the Lord’s call to His people who are dwelling in Babylon is to come out of her, spiritually:


Do not partake of her forbidden and corrupting delicacies, which surround you.

Do not make her standards your standard.

Do not embrace her ideologies and 'wisdom', which are contrary to Christian doctrine (the doctrine of the New Testament), and anti-Christ.

Do not become adulterers in your hearts, in love with the pleasures and comforts of the land in which you sojourn.

Do not compromise the word of God in order to have what Babylon offers you and to be comfortable and prosperous in her, which is not what you were called to by God.

Come out of her spiritually, brothers and sisters---if you have become like her---and save your lives. If you come out of her spiritually, and cleanse and separate yourselves from Babylon’s corrupting influences and unGodly ways, God will also deliver you from her physically. He will not destroy the righteous with the wicked. But if you love her, and will not separate yourself from her because you love her, and your treasure is here, and you have found your life here, and you are partaking in her sins and will not repent of them, you will not escape her judgments, or save your life.


“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…” (Revelation 18:4)


You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:4-10)


But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure (take heed, those of you who are indulging in pornography), or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Be ye not therefore partakers with them.) (Ephesians 5:3-7)


We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober… (1 Thessalonians 5:5-8)


Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13,14)


Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming (on the children of disobedience). (Colossians 3:5,6)


Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”


Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 6:17,18; 7:1)


Do not love the world, or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world---the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions---is not from the Father but is from the world. (1 John 2:15,16)


He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life. (John 12:25)


Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21)
 
TLSITD said:
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: NEW ROME AND BABYLON THE GREAT
("Come out of her, My people...")
​

In the days of the apostle John, at the time that the Lord gave him the revelation, “Babylon” was Rome.

America (the USA) is modern-day Rome: She is the nation that best fits the description of Babylon today.

Rome (which would have been Babylon, had the events foretold in the Revelation taken place at the time it was given) was a city that was also a nation; so Babylon today (like the original city of Babylon), is not just a city but also representative of a nation.


The Babylon Checklist:

  • America is the great importer and customer of the world. She buys all its goods, and other nations profit from and depend upon her business. (Revelation 18:3, 11-14)
  • America has dominion over the kings of the earth economically, and perhaps militarily. (Revelation 17:18)
  • America is a multicultural nation, as Rome also was. (Revelation 17:15)
  • America bought slaves (the transatlantic slave trade)---and she still has them, in the form of secret slavery and sex slavery---just as Rome bought slaves. (Revelation 18:13)
  • America is wealthy, as Rome was. (Revelation 18:16,17)
  • America is a self-indulgent lover of pleasures, as Rome was. (Isaiah 47:8, Revelation 18:7)
  • All the nations of the world have drunk the wine of the passion of America’s sexual immorality, through her sexually immoral and perverted movies and music, which are exported to the nations of the world and enjoyed by them. (Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 17:2, 18:3)
  • America is the mother of earth's abominations, via the influence of her movies and music, and her immoral pop-culture and values, which the nations of the world imbibe and emulate, corrupting themselves likewise. (Revelation 17:5)


(Contrary to popular belief, and the assertions of some patriotic Americans, the United States of America was not founded as a Christian nation, nor is it a Christian nation. The USA is not a theocracy, and it is not governed by the New Testament, even though some Biblical principles may have been included in or have influenced its constitution and some of its founding fathers may have been deists or Christians. The history of this country is not a Christian history according to the New Testament’s teachings, even though a majority of its population may have historically been professing Christians of some kind. And it certainly isn’t in any way a Christian nation now, by government or by culture, even though Christians live here---quite comfortably, I might add...)


Of all the nations in the world, the USA is the one that lines up best with the Bible’s description of Babylon, the great city of the last days (which city could be New York City---the home of Wall Street, and the most iconic and famous American city---representative of the whole of the USA, as the city of Rome was representative of the Roman nation and as the city of Babylon was representative of the Babylonian nation).


So, the Lord’s call to His people who are dwelling in Babylon is to come out of her, spiritually:


Do not partake of her forbidden and corrupting delicacies, which surround you.

Do not make her standards your standard.

Do not embrace her ideologies and 'wisdom', which are contrary to Christian doctrine (the doctrine of the New Testament), and anti-Christ.

Do not become adulterers in your hearts, in love with the pleasures and comforts of the land in which you sojourn.

Do not compromise the word of God in order to have what Babylon offers you and to be comfortable and prosperous in her, which is not what you were called to by God.

Come out of her spiritually, brothers and sisters---if you have become like her---and save your lives. If you come out of her spiritually, and cleanse and separate yourselves from Babylon’s corrupting influences and unGodly ways, God will also deliver you from her physically. He will not destroy the righteous with the wicked. But if you love her, and will not separate yourself from her because you love her, and your treasure is here, and you have found your life here, and you are partaking in her sins and will not repent of them, you will not escape her judgments, or save your life.


“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues…” (Revelation 18:4)


You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:4-10)


But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure (take heed, those of you who are indulging in pornography), or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Be ye not therefore partakers with them.) (Ephesians 5:3-7)


We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, are drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober… (1 Thessalonians 5:5-8)


Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. (Romans 13:13,14)


Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming (on the children of disobedience). (Colossians 3:5,6)


Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”


Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 6:17,18; 7:1)


Do not love the world, or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world---the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions---is not from the Father but is from the world. (1 John 2:15,16)


He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life. (John 12:25)


Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21)
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Rome is Babylon.


http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/babylon-is-the-code-name-of-rome/
 
Was the book of Revelation really written about US? "The whole world" in Scripture has a decidedly middle eastern connotation, it being an ANE work.

Nonetheless there is some good introspective and purging fire in the OP!
 
This is taken from John Daniel's book "The Grand Design Exposed" granddesignexposed.com

TWO OCCULT POWERS UNITED FOR FINAL WORLD CONTROL
THE BEAST (Rome) and HIS IMAGE (U.S.A.)
In Scripture, Rev.13:1-18, two world powers are described. The first, which received worship and ruled brutally for over a thousand years, but then lost her temporal power to Protestantism, is fittingly named in Scripture, the “Beast”. It is the world’s greatest hidden Occult influence of Rome.

The second power described as the “Image” to the beast, is the U.S.A. As a daughter is the splitting image of her mother (harlot), so the U.S.A. was quietly founded in the ‘Image’
of Rome and its Occultism by Jesuits and Freemasons. The long range purpose was a ‘grand design’ to once again bring the world under the control and tyranny of the Occult Sun system of Rome, through what we know today as the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Revelation 13:15 - And he (USA) had power (Influence Legislation) to give life (Establish former persecution) unto the image to the beast, (USA Church and State) that the image to the beast (Protestant USA Church and State) should both speak, (Legislation) and cause that as many as would not worship the image (Protestant church and state system with enforced worship in America) should be killed. This predicts a dramatic change in America. Persecution of God’s people for refusing to go along with forced laws of worship. Revelation 17 unites with 10 kings to make war on Gods chosen people.

Revelation 13:16 - And he (USA Church and State power) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (mark of Beast, or mark of Rome’s power in their right hand, or foreheads: (Note: God also puts a seal in His people's forehead but its not visible, Revelation 14:1).

Revelation 13:17 - And that no man might buy or sell, (USA boycott all refusing to worship the national and world church and state system) save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name being 666.

Revelation 13:18 - Here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: (Rome's Power) for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred threescore and six: 666.

So let’s consider again, as the angel of God says unto John, “And there are seven kings (or kingdoms); five are fallen, and “one is”, and the other is not yet come; (even today, it still has not yet come) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.” (a literal 42 months or 1260 literal days) “And the beast “that was”, and “is not”, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Revelation 17:10&11)
 
for_his_glory said:
The second power described as the “Image” to the beast, is the U.S.A. As a daughter is the splitting image of her mother (harlot), so the U.S.A. was quietly founded in the ‘Image’
of Rome and its Occultism by Jesuits and Freemasons. The long range purpose was a ‘grand design’ to once again bring the world under the control and tyranny of the Occult Sun system of Rome, through what we know today as the NEW WORLD ORDER.
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Chapter & verse where it says this?.....cuz I checked the verses and does not say that. I know, it does not say that in the Bible but this guy you quote says it so he can sell books....I hope it did not cost you too much to buy
 
this is why i dont do future prophecy other than the fact tribulation is coming . i do believe there will be a false Christ many will fall for .i also believe Jesus could return and take his folks out at any moment . Jesus said watch and pray
 
jasonc said:
or in the past, isreal. which in the past(Jerusalem) was the richest city in the empire.
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Yes it was, but yet don't forget that it was the Roman Empire that governed Jerusalem that made it a wealthy city back in the day.
 
civilwarbuff said:
Chapter & verse where it says this?.....cuz I checked the verses and does not say that. I know, it does not say that in the Bible but this guy you quote says it so he can sell books....I hope it did not cost you too much to buy
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No, I did not buy the book, but had personal correspondence with him many years ago. You won't find him among the phonies on TBN.

You know as well as me there are no verses that describes America in scripture for America did not exist back then. Scoffers will scoff and reject that of what they know nothing about. Do you think America is exempt from prophecy? Do you think this nation is safe guarded by God? I could prove so much of this, but the ToS prevents me. I gave the website, go check it out.
 
ezra said:
no i do not america will be judged but i do think he has us under his wings but will one day pull away .the whole world will face judgement
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God only has those who are His under His wings as we who are His through Christ Jesus look for the day we will be with Him forever. There are some who never come to the knowledge of the prophecies as they are not concerned, but only wait for His coming. Then you have people like me that watch and pray as to what we are to watch for are the signs of His coming and that of prophecy that yet needs to be fulfilled.

Roman rule has always been as a branch off the Babylon Empire which is still alive today as mystery Babylon throughout many nations. It's the deeper things that many of us study, not only what has been written in scripture, but also history that repeats itself and the foundations of many nations how they were founded and who founded them for what purpose. I don't believe in the false Rapture theories that are taught and if I am still alive at the time of Gods great wrath being poured out into the world I want to know what must come first before the return of Christ so I will not be overcome by the adversary and fall to his temptations.
 
ezra said:
good Lord has protected the united states problem is many hearts have waxed cold
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I'll say!
I see many churches that have taken down their crosses and put up rainbow flags.
So-called "Bible teachers" teach righteousness as a means of financial gain.
Churches do not set standards of dress and behavior for their congregations.
The most important "sacrament" in many churches is the collection of the tithe.
You are right!
 
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