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It's not Hebrew and Greek, and so it is just another translation full of translation errors that besmirch the good name of God's Word.
 
Pard said:
It's not Hebrew and Greek, and so it is just another translation full of translation errors that besmirch the good name of God's Word.
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So you admit that KJV is not inerrant.
 
tjw said:
What are your thoughts on King James onlyism?
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Dear tjw, It was not taught by the translators of the KJV, who said to their readers

that they should consult other English language versions of the Scriptures. The

KJV translators did not think their translation was anything but human, and they

did not believe it was an "inerrant, inspired" translation, free of all errors. Only

the original Bible, OT and NT Greek, are the inspired, inerrant words of God.

In Erie Scott
 
Scotth1960 said:
Dear tjw, It was not taught by the translators of the KJV, who said to their readers

that they should consult other English language versions of the Scriptures. The

KJV translators did not think their translation was anything but human, and they

did not believe it was an "inerrant, inspired" translation, free of all errors. Only

the original Bible, OT and NT Greek, are the inspired, inerrant words of God.

In Erie Scott
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and koine greek is dead, meaning that it isnt so easily translated.

in fact , the only reason we have been able to grasp some of the greek is due to the muslim preservation of the other myths in the original koine greek of that era.

and english is sooooooooo limited.try learning arabic or hebrew and you will see(i saw it when i learned spanish and some pashto)
 
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who thinks reading the KJV only is illogical. I personally cross- reference a few versions when studying the bible. I think many churches insist on KJV to keep their congregation dependant on the leaders to do all the translating (and twisting) of the words for them.
 
Just another "Rabbit trail".

The Bible is the Bible. One's as good as another.

There ARE NO "autographs", and there are ONLY translations based on THOUSANDS of documents which were cobbled together into "The Bible", and which began to become "generally available" for "Just folks" to read about 500 years ago.

The King James version is a nice piece of work, that I've personally used for 60 years. I Know the "Workarounds" for most of the lousy translations, and archaic language issues, and it's got the same textual errors as any of 'em. I THINK in KJV when I use a concordance. It IS the Bible for me.

I use the KJV, the "Living", the "Amplified", and the NWT (just for "shock value").

If I started reading the Bible 10 years ago, I probably wouldn't use it in favor of more modern versions.

Folks who make the "claim" that the KJV is the ONLY INSPIRED Bible, are simply ignorant (Often willfully) of the facts, and of the Bible itself.
 
D4Christ said:
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who thinks reading the KJV only is illogical. I personally cross- reference a few versions when studying the bible. I think many churches insist on KJV to keep their congregation dependant on the leaders to do all the translating (and twisting) of the words for them.
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Nope, your not the only one by any means! In regards to the part of your post that I put in bold, I've been around a lot of KJV only types and it was clear that the majority of them were also the ones who had the most illogical and legalistic views on most other aspects of Christianity as well. So it does make sense that they want to keep the general layperson dependent on them as leaders, to twist and massage the words to fit their particular tastes and preferences.

A friend once told me the KJV is the only true word of God, referring to all other translations as "tools of Satan", including all non-English translations. I questioned him on how someone that doesn't speak English is supposed to hear the word of God. He actually, in all seriousness, told me that the person has a responsibility to learn King James English if they want to hear God's word! He went so far to say that King James English is God's language, and if Jesus came back today, he would speak to the entire world in King James English! This guy wasn't some mentally ill or mentally handicapped person by any means. His IQ was in the genius range, he did very well all through school and career, had more knowledge of most Biblical subjects than most clergy, and in most other areas of his life he showed more common sense than most people. But yet he still held vehemently to this illogical viewpoint of KJV only until the day he died. I just don't understand it.

I've got nothing against the KJV. As many have said, it is one of the English translations. If I am discussing scripture with someone I know is KJV only, I will only use the KJV because I want to discuss whatever the topic is, not argue about versions. But it is illogical to hold that the KJV is the only inerrant Bible version in the world.
 
Sure do agree with all you guys here. God is big enough to take care of His Word what ever man tries to do to It!


BUT i love it. Some times when i need a hug i can still hear my Daddy reading. 50+ years ago, it was what was... John 3 16 just dont sound right any other way... It is poetic. musical.

Besides that is makes for lots of forum battles :yes
 
Well, I hope I don't jinx the thread by saying I can't believe we have this many posts in agreement. I like to cross-reference with it. I would never take the stance that my version is the only valid one.

Not always, but sometimes, I detect an air of superiority in that camp. Most of the time, it seems to be a stance they've been surrounded by, so it's never been a question to them. But I've met some who came to the conclusion seemingly on their own.
 
The KJV is the Bible that I grew up reading and hearing in church. I myself think that it's a very good translation - for its time. I'm very comfortable with the early 17th century language of the time, but admittedly, it's not the best for today.

For those who say the King James version is the only inspired version, I would ask you all: Did we not have the Word of God until 1611 AD? What about the original Hebrew and Greek writings that even the KJV was translated from? And what about the Tynedale Bible, the Geneva Bible, and other GREAT translations?

Look, I love the KJV. At Christmas, it isn't right to me, unless I read or hear the 2nd chapter of Luke from the KJV, simply because it brings back so many memories from childhood and I also understand it. As another poster stated here, it's poetic and almost musical. But that's only my preference.

I still use the KJV, but my main translations are ESV and NASB.
 
GOD speaks in kjv english only. the devil is a liar.

i swear.

so i guess the pastors of these types must also preach the kjv and do the whole service in kjv english.

btw few actually have the kjv 1611, most use the kjv 1768.
 
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