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I agree, but when has the erring spouse gone beyond forgiveness? Remarriage makes it very difficult to bring reconcilliation.

I'm wondering where FAITH is in this 'example'? Hagar comes to mind... who was sent away by Sarah, with GOD'S consent. Did Hagar lack because of Sarah's obedience? No... scripture records God sent an angel to guard and provide for her while she was on her own with her son. God's love...

Truly biblical post, Remember... thank you! I hope you continue to peel back the layers of truth...

Couldn't the fact that Jesus makes reference to Deut. 24 when responding to the Pharisees in Matthew 19 ALSO define 'uncleanness' when He mentions 'fornication' in the same thought? Seems to be the case... :fadein:

For a man to marry, I thinks it's important to have a clear understanding of the direction God is leading him, as well as to be able to financially and spiritually provide for a family. A young woman needs to know she can adapt her life to that of her potential husband's. A potential...

I've always understood that scripture to show that Jesus was revealing more than the fact that this woman not only had been married 5 times and was not married to her current partner~ but that her relationships had become something akin to 'serial adultry'. Why would Jesus bother to bring...

Couldn't agree more, Thessalonian... especially in regard to what I've highlighted.

My post, in context, says no such thing FOC... I'm talking about the 'fellowship of His suffering'.... not the 'fellowship of marriage'. You might want to reread, and grasp what I'm saying. (?)

I think we need to remember that what the world equates as 'happiness' cannot be confused with the REAL joy we have in the Lord when we walk in the Spirit and DO NOT fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Paul spoke often of having contentment and joy in the face of incredible obsticles. If we...

I had a bible college professor state that 'just as the temptation BEFORE marriage is to have intimate relations, the temptation AFTER marriage is to NOT fulfill marital obligations'. Either way, God's intent for intimate relations in marriage, is denied.

Hi Drew- Agree to an extent. The pharisees had created a horrible burden of man-made law. Man made law is something entirely different from what JESUS commands. In posting this scripture you imply that those who embrace Jesus' commands on d/r are 'adding to' law. And this simply is not...

FOC citing my quote: The meaning of 'pornea' makes absolutely no difference to what Jesus is saying. LURKERS PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT DELICATE HAS JUST SAID THERE. ____________________________________________________________________ This having been originally posted with a 'scream'-...

FOC: (quote)... coming from someone who cant seem to get her facts straight on this topic, Id have to honestly say that your calling my site ''erroneous'' leads me to believe you havent studied this topic at all.. _______________________________________________________________________ FOC...

FOC states: Can you not even grasp the simple concept I laid forth that marriage is until death unless one is put away for porneia? Nothing has changed in my words or ideas. YOU have simply failed to understand them ... ___________________________________________________________________...

Quoting Drew: I am not claiming to have any answers. However, my sense is that a strictly "technical" approach to this matter (e.g. determining the exact meaning of "porneia") does not work, for reasons such as the one I have given. Agreed! The meaning of 'pornea' makes absolutely no...

Have to agree with Drew- you seem to be backed in a corner FOC. Having read your VERY ERRONEOUS site- I wonder where you get the nerve to accuse the 'anti-remarriage' group of disharmony. Case in point? YOUR OWN QUOTE! Quoting FOC from his site: 'Marriage is a life covenant that...

Foc said: Gotta love the truth OK- let's examine what it means to 'love the truth' Jesus called HIMSELF the truth (Jhn 14:6). HIS TRUTH on the mdr issue: Matt. 19:9- Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication (betrothal custom of Jews, scholars agree) and shall...

Thank you Brighty, for the information regarding available messages at marriagedivorce.com. I've listened and find them most helpful in focusing on the truth of God's Word as it relates to the d/r issue. And thank you for the very kind words. Blessings to you!

Well now P-O-R, that's not very nice... :smt087 I think most conscientious parents want the best for their child. Scripture tells us to 'train up a child in the way he should go...' I'm guessing- you're not a parent?! :wink:

Another belated welcome. Glad to have you here.