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I guess this is ok if you think the body is a "thing" and this world is what it all boils down too. But that is not what Jesus showed you. He showed you that "eyes have not seen". The key is that you are a set of memes. You are a set of "god". I think a "sub-set", but you get the point. I...

exactly free ... thank you for making it so easy. because of that, there is no valid reason to even talk about a literal bible as "true". in support of that stance I offer this line of reason: how did he treat literal Jewish priest? How did he talk about them? What was the hole of his...

What you are addressing is a "trait" of god. The "poof there it is type of god". That clearly is not what happened. Maybe "god" created the universe in the same way a mother "creates" a child. The gaps in the formation of a human tree are the same gaps that appear in a developing fetus...

If you can't take it, don't dish it out. I am begging because you refuse to answer thequestions. I failed to see the difference in: I am begging you to show me the difference. " There is a distinct difference between two points ofview under discussion where one party alleges that man has...

for the second time, I am ok with your attemp at insulting me. My stance gets stronger after this response. That is how science works. You take an idea to people that don't think like you and see what they say. Your answer? well, you and I both know whyyou couldn't answer. Any stance...

err, I guess it does. you said " There is a distinct difference between two points of view under discussion where one party alleges that man has been disrupting the truth and another has said no, quite the opposite, God has been pouring out knowledge and as is always the case, some listen and...

lmao. I say don't dish it out if you can't take it and that almost provokes you? to funny you have really misstated what science is and is not. I am just trying to clarify it. your quote: "Science does not attempt to guide people to their ultimate destination, nor does it make promise or...

science does list the "miracle" and the "testimonies". They list everything. Then a scientist, or anybody, can draw a conclusion off of that list. yes, man can disrupt the truth. Would one question that? yes, god is knowledge. what is your point? no, science can't guide people. science...

science that doesn't consider the unseen? really? Science considers everything. what scientist do not do is make claims about the unknown without any evidence to do so. They list what they have and draw a conclusion from that list. That is bad why exactly? I mean even jesus seemed to...

wow your post gets deep. It goes into so many areas. They killed him for what you just stated. one area is control. It cannot be ignored. when you can burn the book, and laugh, they lose control. But what is really funny, is that when you truly don't need the book, there is no need to...

I call them strings, Those bits of information the brains needs to get a grasp on the surroundings. He does not think heis the only one that can see "it". In fact, he knows anybody can, and almost everybody does, "see it". But he can see it none the less. The bible is just that "string"used...

"track", I though that meant "watching me". I didn't know what "trackme" meant. Luther? ... Getting back to the bible? or was he trying to get back to christ? who started "literal bible", when did that stance take hold? You have not offered a strong argument for rejecting"non-literal"...

so I would respond with quotes that point to Jesus nottaking pharoses to literal. I wouldrespond that the way to the truth is threw Christ, not the bible. That is the whole of his message. I shy away from quotes, because we can select quotes thatsupport either side. But in this case, when...

I am ok with tracking. Do what youwant. I learnt from Christ, the truth isthe truth. I will go to the cross in his name. You are an honest guy, I have no problem with you challenging me, maybewe both will learn something. you ban me, they killed him. cool. What does martin Luther have to...

The plan is in question right? But I do think the universe may be alive. At the least, earth's biosphere may be "a life form" that time seemed to be needed for producing a fuel source to get us from where we are, to where we might end up. IE: getting rid of the meat sack for space travel...

Genesis was put into the bible by the churches, long before martin Luther,with this leeway built in to "tell" us, so many thousands of yearslater, that the book is not to used as "how" god did it. The book tells us god did do it. If we need the book to beliteral, we have to investigate why...

err, Jesus taught us not to believe religion alone and idols. And nowhere did Jesus tell us to follow the bible literally. so now what? what other piece of data do you have?

that's right. science is data collection process. and then drawing reasonable conclusion from that data. As best we can. the observations that nobody has walked on water, means, we can claim that nobody has walked on water. thats science. A book (2000 years ago) said somebody walked on...

now we are at the meat bolts. It always takes a few post, but we get down toit. Axioms. That is the biggest problem bolts I have with some people. They bully people with this kind of stuff. Not you, right, I believe you are trying to help. I mean that. it gets down to "do you believe he...

for me, the last "trace" was looking at the production of atp using oxygen from singular, to multi cellular organisms. The atp was shut off, then has to be turned on again to support the the energy requirements. also, we can look at star formation. hydrogen into helium. At the end of the...