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Richard, is it possible that the Prophets preached it but no one understood it? Is it possible that it was proclaimed openly but an good understanding was secret until Christ came? Is that possible?

the basic view is this one the idea is that rejection of Christ is rejection of God. Paul puts it this way: the idea here is that of highest ideals. the greatest Roman ideal was glory, the Greeks, truth, the Hebrews light. Paul says here that these intangible ideals have a face and that...

orion is it possible that the flood occurred to change the direction of the earth's culture as with the tower of babel story in Gen 11?

seekandlisten coo I await a reply. And yeah, i agree, the truth is the truth secular or spiritual.

It is a term used in logical argument. I meant nothing more. You wish to support the view that Jesus is not God, and to me that means the same thing. The word carries a cultural baggage. I just wanted you to feel free to disagree with me on any point. also, my bad for putting that in red...

seekandlisten well I agree with you that any point as huge as this wouldn't be tucked into a little verse somewhere. I once had a professor who said that the ancient Hebrews did not believe in only one God but worshipped only one. I soon realized that the issue wouldn't be decided by Deut...

seekandlisten I hope to dialogue with you on the issue of the deity of Christ. I will try to avoid the overall flow of posts because it can be too difficult to keep up with. You said that you do believe Christ to be the "Savior"? My follow up question is that, "Do you then believe the Savior...

Well anyway, the use of Logos here has huge meanings. I was chatting with an atheist the other day who wouldn't believe in God unless I could show him exactly how God physically interacted with the physical universe. Such an explanation of course requires too complete an explanation of God for...

also, the wording of the John 1 text has heavy attacks on aspects of Platonism that differ with Christian thought. "The Word became Flesh," would have been almost anathema to Platonists.

seekandlisten, You say that you do not believe Jesus is God, then do you believe that Jesus is the Savior? If so, then from what? As for the main topic, the word Logos has heavy cultural meaning in the time. For instance, it is obviously a Greek word. But it is also where our words...

Brother Lionel, Great, I wasn't sure where you were going at first with the "ordinances that were against us" thing. But nevertheless, it cannot therefore be ruled out that the Sabbaths spoken of by God's apostolic prophet Paul in Col 2 are the everyday Sabbaths instead of special ones only...

Brother Lionel, Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but I was operating under the assumption that there is no one, anywhere, who hasn't broken the 10C and therefore is condemned by them. The First commandment is to have the only God as your only God. From this all other commandments flow. This...

Wow, what a hoppin thread. Brother Lionel It would appear that you responded to my question and then some :) I don't wanna ignore all your other references, and I'm not, but for discussion purposes I'll stick with your main point. Great, it would also appear that you believe as I suggested that...

Brother Lionel I'll take time to contemplate those issues in regards to the OT for now. But what is your interpretation of this verse: Do you suggest that he means something more specific than the general idea of a Sabbath day?

Brother Lionel, You have changed my mind on some points. Clearly the 10C are especially uplifted over other laws in the OT. For example, they were the only ones spoken out of the mountain/sky fire/cloud thing. (I have a hard time describing such things) So they must have a special purpose...

Brother Lionel, What do I believe? A lot of things. Basically, that any law not reinstated in the NT was only meant for those it was given to. But I'm open to being convinced otherwise because I haven't given it a whole lot of study. As to the main question, I wanna know what the basis is...

Brother Lionel. First, You say that the way ceremonial laws were given and who gave them is an indication only. Fair enough. Your explanation is not at all unlikely. Then you affrim that any law not specifically denounced in the NT is still one to be followed? Hopefully I'm getting your...

Again, to remind 1 How does one tell that ceremonial laws are temporary and the 10C are eternal? 2 Is it possible that the 10C are part of a larger Righteous plan of God? To Brother Lionel's question, I think those who suggest the temporary application of the 10C do not suggest that every law...

I have attempted to summarize Brother Lionel's main argument. for now 10 commandments=10C Basically, it involves almost everything those who share his view have said. Valid. For fun, if the conclusion was Righteousness and Judgement are IDENTICAL to 10C, then Non Sequitur, although it does...

What about all the laws? What about this one: lev 6 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Say to the Israelites: 'When anyone sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD's commands- 3 " 'If the anointed priest sins, bringing guilt on the people, he must bring to the LORD a young...