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A girl at a certain college was much admired both for her personal appearance and her artistic abilities. She had very beautiful auburn hair, and seemed to be able to do anything on canvas with her paints and brushes. Her college mates asked her the secret of her lovely hair. She mentioned how she brushed it, and what she washed it with, and what dressing she used for it.

They asked her also how she managed to produce those wonderful little sketches. She replied that she had given a lot of thought, labor and practice to her drawings. One day the mother came to the college to visit her daughter. When she arrived it was observed that she had lovely hair like Dora’s. Her friends said, “Dora, now we know where you got your beautiful hair. It was not through your washing and brushing it, nor through anything you put on it. You got it from your mother!”

At college the mother was sitting in a room where three of the girls were singing a little extemporaneous trio. It struck her imagination, and taking out a pencil she made a sketch that was a perfect picture of the scene. Upon seeing it, the girls exclaimed, “Dora, this accounts for your being so clever with your pencil and your brushes. You got it from your mother!”

Sometimes we see in our fellow Christians qualities that call forth our wholehearted admiration. We wonder what the secret can be. Is it the result of much earnest effort, or long continued practice, or what? The answer is simple. Find it in Philippians 1:11: “Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ.”

Here we have the secret! The things that we admire are found first of all, and in perfection, in the Lord Jesus. As He is reproduced in our lives (not just mimicking Him but also Himself living His own life in and through us by the Spirit - “yet not I, but Christ lives in me” - Gal 5:20), His qualities shine forth in us. No amount of endeavor, no earnest effort to “imitate” Him, or walk in His steps (1Jo 2:6) will produce the effect. Look at Him, and you see where it all comes from! Not imitation but reproduction is the secret of a Christ-like life; and the reproduction comes through keeping company with Him (2Co 3:18 – The Spirit uses the “glass” or “mirror,” i.e. the Word, to “change” or transform, then continually “conforms” – Ro 8:20; the more reading and study of the Word, the more the conformation for spiritual growth (Eph 4:15—NC).

A gentleman who had lived for some years in Japan, and had been honored with the notice of the Imperial family of that land, had returned home. One say the Mikado’s son, who was on a visit to this country, called at the gentleman’s home. Unfortunately he was absent when the prince called. During the time that the distinguished visitor was at the house, he had taken his handkerchief from his pocket thus liberating some of the delicate eastern perfume with which it was sprinkled. When the gentleman returned he at once exclaimed: “I have had a visit from someone belonging to the royal house of Japan.”

He was asked how he knew. He replied that he detected in the room a particular scent, of which the Mikado and his family had the exclusive use. It is even so with the fragrance of the Lord Jesus’ Life. It is due to the fact that He has been here, and His company has left its trace in the life of the one that is in companionship with Him. Only thus can “the fruit of righteousness” be produced in us. They can only come “by Jesus Christ.”


—Harold Primrose Barker (1869-1952)







MJS daily devotional for August 8

“The believer shares the Lord Jesus’ Cross (‘knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him’ Rom. 6:6); His death (‘ye died and your life is hid with Christ in God’ Col. 3:3); His burial (‘we were buried with Him by baptism into death’ Rom. 6:4); His resurrection (‘as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we’ Rom. 6:4); His ascension (‘made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus’ Eph. 2:6).” -F.J.H.
 
The answer is simple. Find it in Philippians 1:11: “Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ.”

Here we have the secret! The things that we admire are found first of all, and in perfection, in the Lord Jesus. As He is reproduced in our lives (not just mimicking Him but also Himself living His own life in and through us by the Spirit - “yet not I, but Christ lives in me” - Gal 5:20), His qualities shine forth in us. No amount of endeavor, no earnest effort to “imitate” Him, or walk in His steps (1Jo 2:6) will produce the effect. Look at Him, and you see where it all comes from! Not imitation but reproduction is the secret of a Christ-like life; and the reproduction comes through keeping company with Him (2Co 3:18 – The Spirit uses the “glass” or “mirror,” i.e. the Word, to “change” or transform, then continually “conforms” – Ro 8:20;


Reading the verses you quote more carefully, and it is simple too, we see different to what you claimed.


Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, is not being continually conformed, it is filled, it cant be filled more, or conformed again.


They have to put on Christ that fulness image of God, which is to PUT ON PERFECTION.



Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Philippians 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.





the more reading and study of the Word, the more the conformation for spiritual growth (Eph 4:15—NC).
This is the second correction for you.

You quoted Ephesians 4:15, as if it suggests growth.

It cant possibly do that, it has to be as just testified, it has to be putting on charity, perfection, putting on the Lord Jesus Christ, not continually, but doing it truly, not feignedly.


It is for the perfecting of the saints, it is to be the measure of the stature of Christ, it is to avoid the cunning craftiness of men, deceiving, it is to grow up to Christ in all things, ( to not be under a school master, to be man and have grown.)

The whole body edifies itself in love, ( charity the bond of perfectness.) and we are to no longer be in the vanity of those with darkened understanding, who have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.


1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.



Anyone reading on this forum understand and agree to these testimonies, or it is time to go again ?
 
MJS daily devotional for August 8

“The believer shares the Lord Jesus’ Cross (‘knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him’ Rom. 6:6); His death (‘ye died and your life is hid with Christ in God’ Col. 3:3); His burial (‘we were buried with Him by baptism into death’ Rom. 6:4); His resurrection (‘as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we’ Rom. 6:4); His ascension (‘made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus’ Eph. 2:6).” -F.J.H.
More than words and claims are shared, or nothing is shared.

We see the true witness, is the trouble, distresses, despair persecution, casting down of the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ, ( that is sharing in the cross of the Lord Jesus.) they are always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, to manifest in their body the life of the Lord Jesus, they are always delivered unto death for the sake of Jesus, to manifest the life of Jesus in their mortal flesh.



2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

2 Corinthians 4:8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

Philippians 1:28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
 
The Apostles of the Lord were made the right examples to follow, all others were made the wrong examples, to not follow after.

Speaking of distresses......


2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
11 O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
12 Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.
 
Reading the verses you quote more carefully, and it is simple too, we see different to what you claimed.
Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, is not being continually conformed, it is filled, it cant be filled more, or conformed again.
Being "filled" to me is in the sense that one stays full:

"The apostle's wishes, that these saints might be "filled" with them; that is, that they might be like trees laden with fruit, which have fruit on every branch, bough, and twig; that they might abound in the performance of them, be ready to, and fruitful in every good work; not doing a few of one sort only, but performing continually all manner of good works; and so be like fruitful trees that yield their fruit in their season, and do not cease from so doing, but still bring forth fruit, and that in large quantities." -J Gill


This is the second correction for you.

You quoted Ephesians 4:15, as if it suggests growth.

It cant possibly do that, it has to be as just testified, it has to be putting on charity, perfection, putting on the Lord Jesus Christ, not continually, but doing it truly, not feignedly.
Spiritual growth is continually being conformed into the image of Christ (Ro 8:29), which never ceases because "He giveth more grace" (Jas 4:6); always fresh supplies of Grace!
 
Being "filled" to me is in the sense that one stays full:

"The apostle's wishes, that these saints might be "filled" with them; that is, that they might be like trees laden with fruit, which have fruit on every branch, bough, and twig; that they might abound in the performance of them, be ready to, and fruitful in every good work; not doing a few of one sort only, but performing continually all manner of good works; and so be like fruitful trees that yield their fruit in their season, and do not cease from so doing, but still bring forth fruit, and that in large quantities." -J Gill


There is no need to guess what the Apostle wishes, we can just follow what is told by the Apostles, instead of what some guy spoke himself. ( is it not better, especially when predictions for this end time, men cast away the scriptures and turn to fables.)



The believers love has to abound in knowledge and in all judgement, to approve what is excellent, ( the knowledge of Jesus Christ.) so they can be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ, ( in sincere belief)

That is being filled with the fruits of righteousness, by Jesus Christ. ( the knowledge of Him.)

Isaiah 33 tells this of Jesus Christ, His knowledge is the strength of salvation, the fear of the Lord his treasure. ( by HIs knowledge shall His righteous servant justify many. Isaiah 53:11.) To give knowledge of salvation by the remission of their sins.

1 Corinthians 15, tells us to awake to righteousness and to sin not.


Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

1 Corinthians 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.
11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.



The same prayer as in Philippians 1, is in Ephesians 1, it is for God to give that Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, ( of Christ) our eyes to be enlightened, to know the hope of the calling, ( we are saved by hope.) which are the riches of the inheritance. ( being filled with those riches.)

Ephesians 3 is the same hope, for us to know the love of Christ, ( as this passes knowledge in the world.) to then be filled with all the fulness of God. ( that is to be whole, not to be increased, it is knowing, it is believing.)

Ephesians 4 has the same hope, to come in the unity of the faith, (one measure of filling) and of the knowledge of the Son of God, a perfect man, the measure of the stature of Christ. ( not continually filled, but coming to the knowledge of the perfect man.)



Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:



Then Colossians 1 gives that same known prayer, the desire for the believers to be filled with the knowledge of Gods will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, fruitful in every good work, to walk worthy f the Lord, which is them increasing in the knowledge of God, ( believing in sincerity) to be strengthened with all might, ( filled, with the knowledge of Christ.) thanking God this way who made us able to part take in the inheritance in light. ( no darkness, as when there we are full of light, there is no part darkness. Luke 11:36.)




Luke 11:36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:




Spiritual growth is continually being conformed into the image of Christ (Ro 8:29), which never ceases because "He giveth more grace" (Jas 4:6); always fresh supplies of Grace!

Now we have to understand what giving more grace is described as.


Grace is multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.

Because God has given us all things that give godliness through the knowledge of Christ, who has called us to virtue.

To be part taker of the divine nature, (the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light. Colossians 1:12.) by belief in the promises of God, we escape the corruption of lust in the world, then add virtue to our faith, and knowledge, (( the knowledge of Christ.) godliness, kindness, charity, ( put on charity the bond of perfectness. Colossians 3:14.)

If these things are in us, and abound, ( filled) we never become unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. ( they cant increase, they have to be in us, not missing.)

If we lack those things, ( as we believed we can increase in them, be filled again with them. Can grow in them.) we are blind, and it is us forgetting we were forgiven of our sins.

We have to do those things, to never fail. ( we fail if we believe we will, or can, do them later, and do not do them NOW.)

2 Peter 3, tells how this is the ERROR OF THE WICKED, falling from stedfastness, but we have to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord. His divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue.)



2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

2 Peter 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
 
I wonder why the scriptures speak of many false prophets rising to deceive many, if they do not do exactly that.

But, anyone reading who seeks sincerity, can see the scriptures are very STRAIGHT, forward.


We put on all things, not wait to do it, so we can STAND. ( against the devil teaching through many false teachers.)




Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
 

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