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for_his_glory said:
I would teach it the same as I have taught it here in this forum and have also taught what I have taught here to others and have no conviction for it.
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You would not be allowed to!
I've taught children. You MUST teach what the particular church believes.
I don't know of any church that believes two are married only through love.
 
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for_his_glory said:
The rules God has set, especially with the scriptures you gave in post # 101 is that Husbands love your wife as Christ loves His Church, (Body of Christ, not a building), do not deal treacherously with her, wives submit to your husband as you do to the Lord as the husband is the head of the house.

All I read here is wife, husband, union of two becoming one flesh one spirit. Gods word has never been socially acceptable as man perceives what they believe to be truth and deny the truth that is before them. God calls it a union as man calls it marriage and whatever God joins together in union as He did Adam and Eve in the beginning let no man put us asunder as this is what God calls a marriage. I don't care what society thinks or how they perceive marriage to be as I only want to follow what Gods and not man.

There is fornication, adultery, lust of the eye, lust of the heart. These are the sins of man and women as this is not a union of God.
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The words husband and wife are used for a reason. You cannot use those words unless you're officially married. Jesus used those reasons because He taught this concept of marriage.

How does one know the difference between love and fornication?
Don't most love each other?
 
WIP said:
In my devotional reading today, I read this from Palm 119 and thought it to be a good reminder.

Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the Lord! Blessed are those who keep His testimonies, Who seek Him with the whole heart! They also do no iniquity; They walk in His ways. You have commanded us To keep Your precepts diligently. Oh, that my ways were directed To keep Your statutes! Then I would not be ashamed, When I look into all Your commandments. I will praise You with uprightness of heart, When I learn Your righteous judgments.
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This is excellent WIP.
But people have to learn this, and through the Holy Spirit of God, and guidance from us, they will learn to walk this way.
There should be no condemnation.
 
Papa Zoom said:
I understand that and we ought to be careful not to let the current culture guide us. But the biblical example is often that the parents choose the mate for the child and in many cases you don't meet them until the wedding night!

That said, our current culture surrounding marriage is what it is and we ought to at least consider appearances since we are to be salt and light in the culture. In our culture, having sex outside of a legal marriage doesn't bode well for the name of Christ and His Church. So we ought to avoid that. Living together is a compromise IMO since it's unnecessary. Getting legally married is easy to do and can be done in some places same day. It's worth doing right and it's worth encouraging others to make wise choices when it comes to marriage.

We currently have over 50% divorce rate in this country and that includes the Church. So clearly something is not right. I know many young women who are on 2nd and third marriages. Today we have a term, "starter marriages." That's coming from a lax culture. And the "try before you buy" is rampant in our sexual culture. There's even this stupid notion that a person ought to have sexual experience before getting married so that the first time is one of experience.

Not everyone will have your story of success. Most will not. It's a sad commentary on our culture.
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Try before you buy.
As if marriage were a pair of shoes.

And those living together a year or two just to make sure...

Why?
Did everything that could happen to them in a long life together , happen within that time period?
Did the try raising a family ?
Sickness ?
Etc.
No.
So what was the experiment all about anyway?
 
iLOVE said:
God looks at the sacrifice only (Jesus, His beloved Son in whom He is please). The number one reason why marriages are failing is because each spouse sees each other instead of Jesus (Gal. 2:20-21 / Romans 8:2). Spiritual adultery is faith in anything other than Christ and Him Crucified.
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Agreed.
Thanks.
 
wondering said:
Try before you buy.
As if marriage were a pair of shoes.

And those living together a year or two just to make sure...

Why?
Did everything that could happen to them in a long life together , happen within that time period?
Did the try raising a family ?
Sickness ?
Etc.
No.
So what was the experiment all about anyway?
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I learned to have a high view of staying married. Not so much a high view on how to act as mom and dad fought a lot. There were 9 of us and lots of stress I suppose. I thought it all normal. Still, they stayed together and when my dad was dying, my mom turned into Florence Nightengale and waited on him hand and foot.
 
I hope and pray that all who are involved and reading this thread are looking to Jesus for proper guidance and not leaning on our own understanding. It can be easy to look to ourselves for comfort and believe we have understanding even when we don't.
 
Papa Zoom said:
I learned to have a high view of staying married. Not so much a high view on how to act as mom and dad fought a lot. There were 9 of us and lots of stress I suppose. I thought it all normal. Still, they stayed together and when my dad was dying, my mom turned into Florence Nightengale and waited on him hand and foot.
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This is the epitome of commitment.
This is love.
Doing what Jesus said to do.
If we should do such for our neighbor!
Is our spouse not our neighbor?
Amen. Lord help our hurting world.
 
It should be understood here that when Jesus spoke of these Laws, he was speaking to the Jews who were under the Law as He and his disciples were still under the Law.
When New Testament writers spoke on this subject, they were speaking to born again believers.
Since we are zeroing in on born again believers, then this whole conversation is based on born again believers.
If a non-believer is married to a believer, then I must ask why?
And how can such a person give sound advice to believers?
And how can two believers justify living together outside of marriage?
How can a believer live with someone that is not saved?
These questions and more need to be addressed before sound advice can be received by anyone.
 
Allen Wynne said:
It should be understood here that when Jesus spoke of these Laws, he was speaking to the Jews who were under the Law as He and his disciples were still under the Law.
When New Testament writers spoke on this subject, they were speaking to born again believers.
Since we are zeroing in on born again believers, then this whole conversation is based on born again believers.
If a non-believer is married to a believer, then I must ask why?
And how can such a person give sound advice to believers?
And how can two believers justify living together outside of marriage?
How can a believer live with someone that is not saved?
These questions and more need to be addressed before sound advice can be received by anyone.
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I think this is what we're talking about.
Let's see...
I'm married to a non-believer.
Should I leave him?
 
Allen Wynne said:
How can a believer live with someone that is not saved?
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Because ya got married at 17 when ya knew every thing... Choose to honor the vow ya took before God

and because the Word says this
1Co 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
 
reba said:
Because ya got married at 17 when ya knew every thing... Choose to honor the vow ya took before God

and because the Word says this
1Co 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
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Oh?
You're married to an unbeliever?
Well, you may not believe it or ever know it, but God is going to change that, because God answers prayers.
 
Allen Wynne said:
That's okay.
I answered the question myself back on post number three, but I guess nobody on this forum besides yourself could recognize what I wrote.
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My reply was post no. 11.

As to your reply no. 3...
Most positive replies don't get answered because everyone agrees with them...as they did with you.
You brought up something interesting but it'll have to wait till tomorrow.
 
wondering said:
My reply was post no. 11.

As to your reply no. 3...
Most positive replies don't get answered because everyone agrees with them...as they did with you.
You brought up something interesting but it'll have to wait till tomorrow.
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And our God answers your prayers too.
 
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

What does sanctified mean
 
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