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ChristianForums.net aspires to provide a place where Christians can come together in fellowship for encouragement, inspiration, and strength to help build each other up and grow in our walk of faith through honest and open discussion, study, reflection, and prayer.



The CF staff team uses the ToS as a basis for how this community is run. Our aim is to treat members fairly and, in the event of difficulty or dispute, to give them the best chance to remain members before any action is required. Your cooperation is appreciated. Here are key things to remember, which will be much more effective than any rules we can make up:

John 13:35 (All references use NKJV)
“By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Luke 6:31
“And just as you want people to treat you, treat them in the same way.”

Philippians 2:3
“in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.”

1 Corinthians 6:7
“it is already an utter failure that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated?"

If all else fails, this is the action that will be taken:
Matthew 18:15 - 17
“Moreover if your Brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that “by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the Church. But if he refuses even to hear the Church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.”


That means PM (private message) a member to settle an issue rather than publicly feuding. If that doesn’t work, start a new PM that invites both the other member AND staff. After all that, do we still need rules? Maybe so. Here are some basics:

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  1. Give other members the respect you would have them give to you:

1.1 Address issues/ideas, not the person. Do not insult, post derogatory opinions, belittle, discredit, or create a hostile environment. Do not make inflammatory remarks, do not make remarks to affect others negatively.

1.2 Do not misquote or misrepresent another member. Do not disrupt the flow of the conversation, respect all members as to where they are in their spiritual walk.

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1.5 Always tag a member that you mention in any thread.

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This includes words purposefully misspelled or alternate use of characters. Staff will determine acceptability at its discretion.

1.7 No trolling. This is defined as posting simply to get other people to "dance for you;" to elicit a reaction for no good reason.
I don't think I've ever broken any of these rules, but Reba and company disagree.
There is where the problem lies.
Misunderstanding.
A rule cannot correct this.
I say one thing.
Reba says another.
An argument ensues.
She throws rules at me and wins.

There has to be a better way to solve problems.

A lot of people left this forum over things such as these.
I am one that did not.

All those bans and such are gone.
If that was your objective, then you have won.

Though I don't have the answers, I do believe that terms of service have to have some flexilbility.
I think rigid rules that end up eliminating people causes defeatism.
And that in and of itself is not Christian.

So what happened to me was a group of leaders giving me every chance to change yet I felt the change belonged to the leaders and their terms of service.
Administrators gave the impression that exerting their power was the answer.
I left for a while and found many others had left permanently.

Let's face it, you need some controversy.
The Apostle Paul got shot down at many Temples but kept coming back.
Some he got thrown out of.
Others he left on his own accord.
Which ones were better, the ones that threw him out, or the ones that let him keep coming back but just disagreeing with him.
 
I don't think I've ever broken any of these rules, but Reba and company disagree.
There is where the problem lies.
Misunderstanding.
A rule cannot correct this.
I say one thing.
Reba says another.
An argument ensues.
She throws rules at me and wins.

There has to be a better way to solve problems.

A lot of people left this forum over things such as these.
I am one that did not.

All those bans and such are gone.
If that was your objective, then you have won.

Though I don't have the answers, I do believe that terms of service have to have some flexilbility.
I think rigid rules that end up eliminating people causes defeatism.
And that in and of itself is not Christian.

So what happened to me was a group of leaders giving me every chance to change yet I felt the change belonged to the leaders and their terms of service.
Administrators gave the impression that exerting their power was the answer.
I left for a while and found many others had left permanently.

Let's face it, you need some controversy.
The Apostle Paul got shot down at many Temples but kept coming back.
Some he got thrown out of.
Others he left on his own accord.
Which ones were better, the ones that threw him out, or the ones that let him keep coming back but just disagreeing with him.

It's good to see you back around Brother. They can't get rid of me, lol. ;)

When I first joined this forum, I couldn't even talk diplomat and when people would be obstinate and say tings very wrong and even get personal about it, it's an easy inclination to want to respond and set them straight to the truth. But therein was my lesson, saith the Lord, lol.

It's not about being right. That may sound good on the surface but if it stirs things up and creates board strife then even winning is failing because things are easily looking down if contention arises. The Lord taught me, that I should continue to be a very humble sort and not confrontational at all. Those with ears to hear will hear, and those who will not hear...will not. So it's better to not be confrontational. Sometimes I slip a little but I am learning to just not respond to the madness when one comes forth with it.

They revamped this place and it's like a different forum now. A totally different atmosphere and I applaud them for that. God bless them all.
 
I don't think I've ever broken any of these rules, but Reba and company disagree.
There is where the problem lies.
Misunderstanding.
A rule cannot correct this.
I say one thing.
Reba says another.
An argument ensues.
She throws rules at me and wins.

There has to be a better way to solve problems.

A lot of people left this forum over things such as these.
I am one that did not.

All those bans and such are gone.
If that was your objective, then you have won.

Though I don't have the answers, I do believe that terms of service have to have some flexilbility.
I think rigid rules that end up eliminating people causes defeatism.
And that in and of itself is not Christian.

So what happened to me was a group of leaders giving me every chance to change yet I felt the change belonged to the leaders and their terms of service.
Administrators gave the impression that exerting their power was the answer.
I left for a while and found many others had left permanently.

Let's face it, you need some controversy.
The Apostle Paul got shot down at many Temples but kept coming back.
Some he got thrown out of.
Others he left on his own accord.
Which ones were better, the ones that threw him out, or the ones that let him keep coming back but just disagreeing with him.
Hi Allen,
I try very hard to work with every member and I see myself and staff more as servant's to the board than masters over it.
Scripture teaches us to seek peace and persue it. Ephesians 4 and Romans 12 says how we should live in community when so much controversy surrounds us.
God pulled me back to this site kicking and screaming. His ways are above my ways.

How I yearn for fellowship with those who seek reconciliation of the Body of Christ, and not division. Satan prowls around seeking to devour others. When we seek controversy, it's Satan's work, not the Lord's work.

Grace says I know what you did was wrong, so let's work on this together because God's Justice always has an element of mercy in it. If there isn't opportunity for grace, then it's not justice.

For those that I personally banned, grace was extended, but rejected because this site had become Satan's breeding ground seeking to devour others instead of seeking peace with one another and persuing it.

This doesn't mean that those I banned were not Christians, but rather, the atmosphere promoted division, not unity and it starts at the top.
 
It's good to see you back around Brother. They can't get rid of me, lol. ;)

When I first joined this forum, I couldn't even talk diplomat and when people would be obstinate and say tings very wrong and even get personal about it, it's an easy inclination to want to respond and set them straight to the truth. But therein was my lesson, saith the Lord, lol.

It's not about being right. That may sound good on the surface but if it stirs things up and creates board strife then even winning is failing because things are easily looking down if contention arises. The Lord taught me, that I should continue to be a very humble sort and not confrontational at all. Those with ears to hear will hear, and those who will not hear...will not. So it's better to not be confrontational. Sometimes I slip a little but I am learning to just not respond to the madness when one comes forth with it.

They revamped this place and it's like a different forum now. A totally different atmosphere and I applaud them for that. God bless them all.
Thank you Edward. I needed to hear that.
 
Christian forums need guidelines like the ToS in here in order to keep unity among the brethren as being a reminder of God's greatest commandment of love. The ToS is similar to the blessings or the curses of God in Deuteronomy chapter 27, 28.

The ToS in a sense is set up like God's commands in how we as a child of God need to present our self to others in love and respect of where each one is at with their understanding of scripture. Everyone is on a different level during their growth and maturity in the word of God. Some allow man to teach them while others seek the understanding solely through the Holy Spirit as we discern that of what others teach.

There are those who bring truth, half truths and false teachings that they are not even aware of by how they allow themselves to be taught. This is why we discuss, not argue and debate our indifference's, and share scripture with each other that it might bring a new light to another persons understanding. There are no "I am right and you are wrong", but that of the unity of love in our fellowshipping with each other as we are ever learning.

StoveBolts and JohnDB have worked hard to bring this forum to the place where it is a pleasure to be a member, but when a member gets out of hand causing division and bringing chaos to the forum, they need to be disciplined in a private loving manner in a PM between them and the staff. It's like God who has to disciples His children when they become disobedient to His commands as He reminds them of how they are to behave when interacting with others.

The ToS is very easy to understand and we can not help it if others do not read it or choose to ignore it. CF has become a place that I for one take great pleasure in coming to everyday and sharing with everyone and learning from those that have more Spiritual understanding then I have. CF does not police the forums, but we try our best to keep peace and harmony flowing through every topic even if we do not always agree with each other. Warnings are given when necessary before anyone is banned and if they are banned by the administrators then it was their choice for not heeding the warnings they were given. There is no pleasure in banning anyone, but is necessary when it comes down to it.

Thank you StoveBolts and JohnDB for listening to the guidance of Holy Spirit to make CF a great place to fellowship with one another.
 
Christian forums need guidelines like the ToS in here in order to keep unity among the brethren as being a reminder of God's greatest commandment of love. The ToS is similar to the blessings or the curses of God in Deuteronomy chapter 27, 28.

The ToS in a sense is set up like God's commands in how we as a child of God need to present our self to others in love and respect of where each one is at with their understanding of scripture. Everyone is on a different level during their growth and maturity in the word of God. Some allow man to teach them while others seek the understanding solely through the Holy Spirit as we discern that of what others teach.

There are those who bring truth, half truths and false teachings that they are not even aware of by how they allow themselves to be taught. This is why we discuss, not argue and debate our indifference's, and share scripture with each other that it might bring a new light to another persons understanding. There are no "I am right and you are wrong", but that of the unity of love in our fellowshipping with each other as we are ever learning.

StoveBolts and JohnDB have worked hard to bring this forum to the place where it is a pleasure to be a member, but when a member gets out of hand causing division and bringing chaos to the forum, they need to be disciplined in a private loving manner in a PM between them and the staff. It's like God who has to disciples His children when they become disobedient to His commands as He reminds them of how they are to behave when interacting with others.

The ToS is very easy to understand and we can not help it if others do not read it or choose to ignore it. CF has become a place that I for one take great pleasure in coming to everyday and sharing with everyone and learning from those that have more Spiritual understanding then I have. CF does not police the forums, but we try our best to keep peace and harmony flowing through every topic even if we do not always agree with each other. Warnings are given when necessary before anyone is banned and if they are banned by the administrators then it was their choice for not heeding the warnings they were given. There is no pleasure in banning anyone, but is necessary when it comes down to it.

Thank you StoveBolts and JohnDB for listening to the guidance of Holy Spirit to make CF a great place to fellowship with one another.
Yes,,,,I do believe a thank you is in order for work well-done and for taking the risk of making such a big change.

I typed out the TOS and, to be honest, I can't even remember them all!
But I know that if I behave civilly toward others, the chances are that none will
be broken. Just as love covers many sins,,,,civility will cover a lot of TOS rules.

I find that most persons are just on forums to discuss and share. There are always a couple of rotten apples that spoil it for everyone...that is not the case here, through proper moderating

I do want to react to something Allen Wynne said.
I'm not so sure we should be arguing with moderators.
I got a PM some time ago that stated something I believe I do not do.
But I let it go, waiting, perhaps for a second notice.
Which never came.
Sometimes the arguing is just not worth it.
OSAS has been banned because of the time it takes to moderate it.
Probably because of arguments with the mods??
I wish some system could be created to solve this problem.
As everyone here knows, I think this is a very important topic to discuss.

Anyway, that's my

:twocents
 
worth it.
OSAS has been banned because of the time it takes to moderate it.
Probably because of arguments with the mods??
I'd like to think that the underpinning reason, which wasn't discussed outright was we didn't have mature Christians who knew how to discuss their differences with charity.
Instead, they were mostly prideful intellectual arguments that breeder division, and that goes against the teachings of Christ and the New Testement writings on unity.
Those types of discussions can be invigorating, but they don't fill you up because they don't fill others up. Instead, they puff up and create clicks that only serves an us and them mentality. It steals the desire of reconciliation and replaced it with the selfishness that comes with prideful boasting that says I'm right and my focus is to prove that your wrong. It's the epitomy of self justified arrogance.

Hearts with a desire to reconcile our differences, not needing to prove another is wrong are the types of members we need to create a safe, Christ like culture which would be able to discuss any topic. But until that culture is cemented in our members, well always need to regulate with out TOS. :-(
 
Yes,,,,I do believe a thank you is in order for work well-done and for taking the risk of making such a big change.

I typed out the TOS and, to be honest, I can't even remember them all!
But I know that if I behave civilly toward others, the chances are that none will
be broken. Just as love covers many sins,,,,civility will cover a lot of TOS rules.

I find that most persons are just on forums to discuss and share. There are always a couple of rotten apples that spoil it for everyone...that is not the case here, through proper moderating

I do want to react to something Allen Wynne said.
I'm not so sure we should be arguing with moderators.
I got a PM some time ago that stated something I believe I do not do.
But I let it go, waiting, perhaps for a second notice.
Which never came.
Sometimes the arguing is just not worth it.
OSAS has been banned because of the time it takes to moderate it.
Probably because of arguments with the mods??
I wish some system could be created to solve this problem.
As everyone here knows, I think this is a very important topic to discuss.

Anyway, that's my

:twocents

It's about transparency, grace, and unity.
These things are essential for any community. And we do have a community here.

No one is trying to be at the top of the community here. We are all friends separated by miles and not anything else. We all wouldn't hesitate to visit each other in their homes.

And this has produced an atmosphere...a culture. One that most here are proud of and willing to defend.

We are a motley crew that most in the world simply don't understand and are very dismissive of...to their detriment.

The 50-60 people who show up every week or day here are a rather large group that creates envy for those on the outside wanting in. They want to belong with us and don't really understand how to join us except by stirring up trouble.
And that's what people claim us moderators are for...but actually we aren't. It's every single one of the family's job to cling to the culture here.
The mods here aren't theology police. We are here for the spammers and wackanoodles that believe we are here to use this place for free advertising or for some wacky theory of how Jesus was an alien from outer space.
We also are here to remind you of the love and respect you have for each other.

We are individuals who each has a unique perspective of the Father. But at no point is my brother not going to be my brother. (Or sister)

We know each others faults and strengths. And love each other anyway. Where else can you get that except family?

But you really can't codify that. You can't tell people how to love... just that they should. We, the regulars, know how...and that's what we must do to those who are new.
 
Yes,,,,I do believe a thank you is in order for work well-done and for taking the risk of making such a big change.

I typed out the TOS and, to be honest, I can't even remember them all!
But I know that if I behave civilly toward others, the chances are that none will
be broken. Just as love covers many sins,,,,civility will cover a lot of TOS rules.

I find that most persons are just on forums to discuss and share. There are always a couple of rotten apples that spoil it for everyone...that is not the case here, through proper moderating

I do want to react to something Allen Wynne said.
I'm not so sure we should be arguing with moderators.
I got a PM some time ago that stated something I believe I do not do.
But I let it go, waiting, perhaps for a second notice.
Which never came.
Sometimes the arguing is just not worth it.
OSAS has been banned because of the time it takes to moderate it.
Probably because of arguments with the mods??
I wish some system could be created to solve this problem.
As everyone here knows, I think this is a very important topic to discuss.

Anyway, that's my

:twocents

That's the whole purpose for Christian forums is to come in and fellowship with others discussing the doctrines of Christ as we hopefully can learn from one another Spiritually discerning what others try to teach us. This has to be done in the atmosphere of unity among all of us, even when we disagree.

Two topics that come to mind is OSAS vs OSNAS and Baptism. These two topics are great topics, but heavily debated and does bring out the worst in people causing division with the arguments of "I'm right, your wrong". Baptism is not quite as hard to moderate, but yet takes time. We have all seen what happens in OSAS and it does take to much time to follow through all of it as it is a fast moving topic and takes away from time given to other topics.

It would be wonderful if everyone adhered to the ToS and presented themselves as civil mature adults, but we know that will never happen. There is no pleasure in reprimanding anyone for their behavior and we do try to do that with love towards them, but when they ignore the warnings given them then they need to be banned, either for a period of time, or banned all together.

CF does not want to be like all the other Christian forums, but sanctified and blessed by God as He sets it apart from all the other ones as we walk in unity of love following the greatest commandment of God. Haters will hate, but not in here as it will not be tolerated as each one of us brings something different to the discussions as we are to be the light of Christ to the nations. We can disagree with each other, but do this in love and respect for the other person for how they allow themselves to be taught.

I thank God for the many times I have been corrected lovingly by others in here that the Holy Spirit works through that have more Spiritual knowledge then I do. This is the way it should always be as every forum in here is for our learning from each other as we share the scriptures, but yet it is up to each one of us through the Holy Spirit to know what is given has to line up with the full context of scripture. There is only one doctrine which is the doctrine of Christ, but many doctrines of man we need to discern so we are not mislead into believing a false doctrines. No one holds all truths and never will as we are ever learning and could never exhaust the teachings within the Bible.

1Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
That's the whole purpose for Christian forums is to come in and fellowship with others discussing the doctrines of Christ as we hopefully can learn from one another Spiritually discerning what others try to teach us. This has to be done in the atmosphere of unity among all of us, even when we disagree.

Two topics that come to mind is OSAS vs OSNAS and Baptism. These two topics are great topics, but heavily debated and does bring out the worst in people causing division with the arguments of "I'm right, your wrong". Baptism is not quite as hard to moderate, but yet takes time. We have all seen what happens in OSAS and it does take to much time to follow through all of it as it is a fast moving topic and takes away from time given to other topics.

It would be wonderful if everyone adhered to the ToS and presented themselves as civil mature adults, but we know that will never happen. There is no pleasure in reprimanding anyone for their behavior and we do try to do that with love towards them, but when they ignore the warnings given them then they need to be banned, either for a period of time, or banned all together.

CF does not want to be like all the other Christian forums, but sanctified and blessed by God as He sets it apart from all the other ones as we walk in unity of love following the greatest commandment of God. Haters will hate, but not in here as it will not be tolerated as each one of us brings something different to the discussions as we are to be the light of Christ to the nations. We can disagree with each other, but do this in love and respect for the other person for how they allow themselves to be taught.

I thank God for the many times I have been corrected lovingly by others in here that the Holy Spirit works through that have more Spiritual knowledge then I do. This is the way it should always be as every forum in here is for our learning from each other as we share the scriptures, but yet it is up to each one of us through the Holy Spirit to know what is given has to line up with the full context of scripture. There is only one doctrine which is the doctrine of Christ, but many doctrines of man we need to discern so we are not mislead into believing a false doctrines. No one holds all truths and never will as we are ever learning and could never exhaust the teachings within the Bible.

1Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you for your statements here as to what you believe, etc...
Let's move on.
Did you know that there is a statement in your statement of faith that cannot be backed with Scripture?
I thought it best to not rock the boat with that one, but if you look at it, you should easily see it.
I ask, should it be corrected?
Or just ignored?
 
It's about transparency, grace, and unity.
These things are essential for any community. And we do have a community here.

No one is trying to be at the top of the community here. We are all friends separated by miles and not anything else. We all wouldn't hesitate to visit each other in their homes.

And this has produced an atmosphere...a culture. One that most here are proud of and willing to defend.

We are a motley crew that most in the world simply don't understand and are very dismissive of...to their detriment.

The 50-60 people who show up every week or day here are a rather large group that creates envy for those on the outside wanting in. They want to belong with us and don't really understand how to join us except by stirring up trouble.
And that's what people claim us moderators are for...but actually we aren't. It's every single one of the family's job to cling to the culture here.
The mods here aren't theology police. We are here for the spammers and wackanoodles that believe we are here to use this place for free advertising or for some wacky theory of how Jesus was an alien from outer space.
We also are here to remind you of the love and respect you have for each other.

We are individuals who each has a unique perspective of the Father. But at no point is my brother not going to be my brother. (Or sister)

We know each others faults and strengths. And love each other anyway. Where else can you get that except family?

But you really can't codify that. You can't tell people how to love... just that they should. We, the regulars, know how...and that's what we must do to those who are new.
I agree with you John.
I've always felt very at home here.
Sometimes (in the past) there have been members here that were so arrogant that it took all I could muster just to speak to them,,,and most of the time I didn't unless it was something I thought was important.

It's nice now. We could talk about different opinions and not get all riled up with each other.

So yeah,,,keep up the good work.
I think once the atmosphere has been established,,,those coming on board will feel the difference...I do mean FEEL.
 
I'd like to think that the underpinning reason, which wasn't discussed outright was we didn't have mature Christians who knew how to discuss their differences with charity.
Instead, they were mostly prideful intellectual arguments that breeder division, and that goes against the teachings of Christ and the New Testement writings on unity.
Those types of discussions can be invigorating, but they don't fill you up because they don't fill others up. Instead, they puff up and create clicks that only serves an us and them mentality. It steals the desire of reconciliation and replaced it with the selfishness that comes with prideful boasting that says I'm right and my focus is to prove that your wrong. It's the epitomy of self justified arrogance.

Hearts with a desire to reconcile our differences, not needing to prove another is wrong are the types of members we need to create a safe, Christ like culture which would be able to discuss any topic. But until that culture is cemented in our members, well always need to regulate with out TOS. :-(
Yes....This is probably what happens....
some need to prove that they're right and the other member is wrong.
Isn't it funny that two theologians can believe such opposite doctrine?
Maybe both members are wrong!
I always consider that the other person might be right...I always read carefully what they have to say.

It does seem to me that we agree on most things.
But even theologians do not agree...so it's good to discuss but when it starts to be antagonistic, it's time to leave the discussion.

JLB is moderating a forum where anything can be discussed.
So far, its worked out very well. Maybe because he knows who should be admitted and they happen to be more mature Christians that will act like adults.

I have received some PM's from some who feel they have to leave because the moderating is too "heavy". Not knowing the background, and certainly not going to ask what it was, I can't say too much as to their leaving, but it does sadden me when a friend leaves. For whatever reason.

I guess this is to be expected. Personally, I think the moderating here is just right.
On some forums you get banned because you don't agree with the moderators.
On some forums the language is not Christ-like and the people are not very nice.

I think it's like the story of The Three Bears!!

It's just right.
 
Thank you for your statements here as to what you believe, etc...
Let's move on.
Did you know that there is a statement in your statement of faith that cannot be backed with Scripture?
I thought it best to not rock the boat with that one, but if you look at it, you should easily see it.
I ask, should it be corrected?
Or just ignored?

If you would be so kind to tell us what part then we can go back and check it out. There is no rocking the boat as we like feedback.
 
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