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Jesus came to overcome the world and now through Him all can be overcomers by that of Gods grace that through faith that is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in all can have eternal life with Him.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
 
A baby can not inherit the sin of the parents, but are born with a sin nature. Adams sin was imputed to every one of us as there is none that are righteous, babies included, Romans 5:12-18. Psalms 58:3 says, The wicked are estranged (turn from God) from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Who taught a child to lie or be rebellious against their parents? It's that sin nature that causes a child to do this. Psalms 51:5 says, Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. The only thing God gave us at birth was His very breath (spirit) that made us a living soul and it's that breath that goes back to God when we die as he preserves it in judgment until the coming of the Lord, Ecclesiastes 12:7.
 
A baby can not inherit the sin of the parents, but are born with a sin nature. Adams sin was imputed to every one of us as there is none that are righteous, babies included, Romans 5:12-18. Psalms 58:3 says, The wicked are estranged (turn from God) from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Who taught a child to lie or be rebellious against their parents? It's that sin nature that causes a child to do this. Psalms 51:5 says, Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. The only thing God gave us at birth was His very breath (spirit) that made us a living soul and it's that breath that goes back to God when we die as he preserves it in judgment until the coming of the Lord, Ecclesiastes 12:7.


If this forum still had a debate section I would challenge you. However I do not have time to answer the above, which in my understanding is unscriptural. At any rate, God bless.
 
If this forum still had a debate section I would challenge you. However I do not have time to answer the above, which in my understanding is unscriptural. At any rate, God bless.

This is what the scriptures say if you read them word for word in the context they are written in. God bless you too.
 
This is what the scriptures say if you read them word for word in the context they are written in. God bless you too.
our sin nature is there at Birth all though until they have a sin awareness.age of accountability which varies . i have debated with calvinist that refuse to say if a young child dies they go to heaven
 

Inasmuch as this forum no longer has a debate section I shall be happy to enjoin anyone in discussion via personal e-mail. God bless.
 
our sin nature is there at Birth all though until they have a sin awareness.age of accountability which varies . i have debated with calvinist that refuse to say if a young child dies they go to heaven

Age of accountability is nowhere found in the Bible and is a preconception that only leads to speculation. Infant baptism is also unscriptural as a baby can not know faith and regeneration as this takes place at the same point in time. A baby can not be covered by the blood of Jesus until they come into the knowledge of good and evil and accept Him as Lord and Savior. Many use Ephesians 1:4, 5 to support this, but that is not what these verses are saying. These two verses are very similar to that of 2 Peter 3:9 that through Gods love he breathed his breath (spirit) into us when we first came from the womb making us a living soul and that he would want us to be holy and without blame. Staying holy without blame is through repentance and acceptance that brings us to that adoption that is in Christ Jesus thus we were made for Gods good pleasure.

Do all babies go to be with the Lord when they die? The answer is no. Remember, God only gives breath (spirit), but doesn't decide who a baby is born to. Two examples of babies that have died and also will be raised from the grave to stand in Gods white throne judgment all we have to do is look at the story of the Amalekites and their children in Deuteronomy 2:24-34. God even had the babies killed in battle as they would have also grown up to come against God and his people. It’s the same as the firstborn of the Egyptians in Exodus 11. God saved His own from being killed. This was all Gods judgment against those who come out against him. Just as today those babies that die, even though they have no knowledge of good and evil yet, are also those who will be trained to come against God.

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 
Infant baptism is also unscriptural as a baby can not know faith and regeneration as this takes place at the same point in time. A baby can not be covered by the blood of Jesus until they come into the knowledge of good and evil and accept Him as Lord and Savior.
I am not able to agree with this statement either. This topic has been debated before and I have not been convinced to change my view.
 
i am full agreement infant baptism is not scriptural .due to the fact baptism follows salvation we must be Born again .
A baby can not be covered by the blood of Jesus until they come into the knowledge of good and evil and accept Him as Lord and Savior.
are baby is born of innocence in fact they are far more innocent than any adult.. when God took David AND BATHSHEBA baby . David was in much prayer before the Child died . after getting news of the death lets look at scripture instead of my words
The Death of Bathsheba’s Son
The Lord struck the baby that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the boy. He fasted, went home, and spent the night lying on the ground. 17 The elders of his house stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he was unwilling and would not eat anything with them.

18 On the seventh day the baby died. But David’s servants were afraid to tell him the baby was dead. They said, “Look, while the baby was alive, we spoke to him, and he wouldn’t listen to us. So how can we tell him the baby is dead? He may do something desperate.”
2 Samuel 12
19 When David saw that his servants were whispering to each other, he guessed that the baby was dead. So he asked his servants, “Is the baby dead?”

“He is dead,” they replied.

20 Then David got up from the ground. He washed, anointed himself, changed his clothes, went to the Lord’s house, and worshiped. Then he went home and requested something to eat. So they served him food, and he ate.

21 His servants asked him, “What did you just do? While the baby was alive, you fasted and wept, but when he died, you got up and ate food.”

22 He answered, “While the baby was alive, I fasted and wept because I thought, ‘Who knows? The Lord may be gracious to me and let him live.’ 23 But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I’ll go to him, but he will never return to me.”
can i understand all the Children that died in the battles of the conquest of Israel taking the Land God told them to take ? nor can i understand the first Born of pharaoh in exodus . i believe this with all my heart all those babies who perished is in heaven.. they cant help it what the parents done . we have a just God a merciful God and a GOD of love. to send a innocent child to hell .just simply doe not line up with the nature of God. since the little children done no wrong . even though at some point we all have to come to his saving knowledge .
we have a 3 year old we keep he does wrong i ask him William did you do that ? he tells me know even though i caught him......a lie it comes natural he knows he will get spanked yes we bust buts along with no t.v no play time. sit and be quite . he really does not understand what a lie us ..who wants to get in trouble ?
 
Well guys I don't want to debate this so will just say this is what I believe in what I have studied. I would have to say this is a conundrum and we can only go by what we believe per what scripture says in the full context. God bless and I will bow out of this topic :)
 
There's nothing to bow out of. In reality we have strayed off topic so probably best for us to get back onto the topic of the thread.
 
I hope it's on topic to point out that the lost of today's young generation feel God is against them for being human?

This is not particularly different from previous generations, but it is expressed in words we didn't used to use. The OP shows us how to address this SQUARELY!
 
1. a person who has not sinned Romans 3:23
2.a sinner does not love. john 3:16
3 a sinner he can not save Romans 10:13
4. HIS shadow. [1 John 1:5 NASB] This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. :)
 
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