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Greetings to you all in the love of Jesus Christ

This is an excerpt I read sometime back and I thought it would be a good point in time, where it would be re-opened in the forums again for discussion (for those who have not heard this teaching, or maybe heard about it but never discussed it). To any of our Jewish brethren here, if you read this, your input is very welcome.

Understanding the Rapture, through the Jewish Wedding!


Wedding customs vary from nation to nation, in today’s world we see different additions of marriage taking place. The Jews had their own peculiar ways, based on the Old Covenant, and followed traditions in choosing a bride. The Jews had no dating or courtship as we now think of those things in our modern world and society. Marriage to them was a practical legal matter, established by contract and carried through by exacting procedure. These customs exist in a form today in the Jewish wedding ceremony, and in Jesus’ time.

When the young man of Israel in Jesus’ time saw the girl he wanted (or the girl his father said he wanted), he would approach her with a marriage contract. He would come to her house with a covenant – a true legal agreement – giving the terms by which he would propose marriage. The most important consideration in the contract was the price the bridegroom would be willing to pay to marry this particular bride. Then the groom would pay the price. It should be stated that this price was no modest token but was set so that the new bride would be a costly item – that was the idea. The young man had no delusions that he was getting something for nothing. He would pay dearly to marry the girl of his choice.

When that matter was settled the groom would depart, but before he departed he would make a little speech to his bride, saying something along the lines as, “I'm gonna go and prepare a place for us,†and he would return to his father’s house. Back at his father’s house, he would build her a bridal chamber, (an add on to his fathers house was the tradition), in which they would have their future honeymoon. We should appreciate that he would actually build a separate building on his father’s house. The bridal chamber had to be beautiful – and it had to be stocked with provisions since the bride and groom were going to remain inside for seven days (7 years for the bride of Jesus!).

This construction project would take the better part of a year, ordinarily, and the father of the groom would be the judge of when it was finished. (We can see the logic here – obviously, if it were up to the young man, he would throw up some kind of modest structure and go get the girl!). But the father of the groom who had been through this previously and was less excited, would be the final judge on when the chamber was ready and when the young man would go to claim his bride.

The bride, for her part, was obliged to do a lot of waiting. She would take the time to gather her trousseau and be ready when her bridegroom came. Custom provided that she had to have an oil lamp ready in case he came late at night in the darkness, because she had to be ready to travel at a moment’s notice. During this long period of waiting, she was referred to as “consecratedâ€, “set apartâ€, “bought with a priceâ€. She was truly a lady-in-waiting, but there was no doubt that her groom would return. Sometimes a young man would depart for a very long time indeed, but of course he had paid a high price for his bride; even though there were other young women available, he would surely return to the one with whom he had made a covenant.

The bride would wear her veil whenever she stepped out of her house so that other young men would realize she was spoken for and would not try to approach her with another contract. (Today, the Bride of Christ wears a veil – those not understanding of our covenant try to make other contracts with us that would violate the one we have with our Bridegroom. We are to resist those other offers (religions) and wait only for the One Who paid for us.) Meanwhile, the bridegroom would be building and decorating with all that he had. His father would inspect the chamber from time to time to see if it were ready. If we came along the road at this point and saw the young man working on his bridal chamber, we might well ask, “When’s the big day?†But the bridegroom would probably answer, “Only my father knows thatâ€.

Finally, the chamber would be ready and the bridegroom would assemble his young friends to accompany him on the exciting trip to claim his bride. The big moment had arrived and the bridegroom was more than ready, we can be sure. He and his young men would set out in the night, making every attempt to completely surprise the bride. However, there were rules to be observed in consideration of a woman’s feelings. The groom couldn't just rush in on her. After all, her hair might be in rollers! Actually, as the excited party of young men would get close to her house, they were obliged to give her a warning. Some in the wedding party would shout, sing and praise loudly for the Bride to hear his coming. And so the groom and his men would charge in, grab the bride and make off with her! The father of the bride and her brothers would look the other way – perhaps just making one quick check to see that this was the young man with the contract – and the wedding party would be off.

Those looking on would not know who the bride was because she was still wearing a veil, of course. But she would be returning through these same streets a week later with her groom and then her veil would be off. At the return of the bride with her bridegroom, all the people would know just who got married and they would realize the total significance of this wedding.

When the wedding party reached the house of the groom’s father, the bride and groom would go into their chamber and shut the door. No one else would enter. The groom’s father, meanwhile, would have assembled the wedding guests – his friends – and they would be ready to celebrate the new marriage. Since the wedding was actually going to take seven days (until the appearance of the bridge and groom out of the chamber), it was hard to plan for. Occasionally, the host would run out of wine, as we can well imagine. The Lord Himself graced a wedding at Cana with His presence and replenished the wine for the celebrants as told in John 2.

But the celebrating wouldn't start right away. First, the marriage had to actually be consummated. The Jews were a most law-abiding people and the law provided that the bride and groom become one before their marriage was recognized. Thus, the friend of the bridegroom – the individual we might refer to as “the best man†– would stand near the door of the bridal chamber, waiting to hear the bridegroom’s voice. When the marriage was consummated, the bridegroom would tell his friend through the door and the friend would then go to the wedding guests and announce the good news. The celebration would then begin and it would continue for an entire week!

At the end of the week, the bride and groom would make their long awaited appearance to the cheers of the crowd. There would then be a joyous meal – a marriage supper, which we might refer to as the wedding reception – to honor the new couple. At this point, the bride would have discarded her veil, since she was now a married woman, and all would see exactly who it was the bridegroom had chosen. The new couple and the guests would enjoy a magnificent feast to conclude the entire matrimonial week.

And that was a complete Jewish wedding in Jesus’ time, in all its glory. Readers of the Gospel can easily see the beautiful analogies between this complex procedure and the manner in which the Lord Himself called out His chosen Bride.

Do you see a paradox between the Jewish wedding and the Rapture?


God Bless
 
Been years Atone, been years thank you for the most pleasant read.. :)
 
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It's been awhile since I read that. It's such a beautiful read!

I went through a time when I questioned the rapture & this exact correlation played a huge part in my conclusion.
 
It's been awhile since I read that. It's such a beautiful read!

I went through a time when I questioned the rapture & this exact correlation played a huge part in my conclusion.

I think it was G V Wigram who wrote:

'What raised the wondrous thought
Or who did it suggest
That blood bought saints to glory bought
Should with the Son be blessed?

Father, the thought was Thine,
And Thine alone could be,
Fruit of the wisdom, love divine
Peculiar unto Thee.
..

Now, Savior, Thy delight
Is to prepare Thy bride,
Till in the glory, clothed in white,
She's seated at Thy side.'
 
I think it was G V Wigram who wrote:

'What raised the wondrous thought
Or who did it suggest
That blood bought saints to glory bought
Should with the Son be blessed?

Father, the thought was Thine,
And Thine alone could be,
Fruit of the wisdom, love divine
Peculiar unto Thee.
..

Now, Savior, Thy delight
Is to prepare Thy bride,
Till in the glory, clothed in white,
She's seated at Thy side.'


Beautiful! I've never seen that before. :)
 
I think it was G V Wigram who wrote:

'What raised the wondrous thought
Or who did it suggest
That blood bought saints to glory bought
Should with the Son be blessed?

Father, the thought was Thine,
And Thine alone could be,
Fruit of the wisdom, love divine
Peculiar unto Thee.
..

Now, Savior, Thy delight
Is to prepare Thy bride,
Till in the glory, clothed in white,
She's seated at Thy side.'


Beautiful! I've never seen that before. :)

Mizzy:

I like it a lot. There are other verses, too, in the hymn, that I haven't got word perfect, so to speak. The Wigram who wrote it was the Wigram who also did the Bible Concordance.

You know what they say about Bible Concodances?

Youngs for the young,
Strong's for the strong,
Cruden's for the crude
...and Wigram's for the bigwigs.

Blessings.
 
Mizzy:

I like it a lot. There are other verses, too, in the hymn, that I haven't got word perfect, so to speak. The Wigram who wrote it was the Wigram who also did the Bible Concordance.

You know what they say about Bible Concodances?

Youngs for the young,
Strong's for the strong,
Cruden's for the crude
...and Wigram's for the bigwigs.

Blessings.

:toofunny Nope, didn't know that either.
 
I hate to be the party pooper but this love poem without even chapter and verse is an End Time subject?

Where is this thread going?

I'm sorry but I don't get it :sad
 
I hate to be the party pooper but this love poem without even chapter and verse is an End Time subject?

Where is this thread going?

I'm sorry but I don't get it :sad

It's about preparing the to be raptured bride of Christ :) !

Oohhh yea ok. I'm prepared for that...

I'm all set for the Angels to gather all the Saints around the Earth and fly us over Jerusalem where we will meet him in the air, fully translated and grouped up with all those who are resurrected from their sleep. Then we will follow him down to Mt. Olive where he will create a big valley, ascend Mt Zion and proclaim himself King of Kings.

Shortly after, war breaks out, but we win :)
 
Greetings to you in the Love of Jesus Christ


When the young man of Israel in Jesus’ time saw the girl he wanted (or the girl his father said he wanted), he would approach her with a marriage contract. He would come to her house with a covenant – a true legal agreement – giving the terms by which he would propose marriage. The most important consideration in the contract was the price the bridegroom would be willing to pay to marry this particular bride. Then the groom would pay the price. It should be stated that this price was no modest token but was set so that the new bride would be a costly item – that was the idea. The young man had no delusions that he was getting something for nothing. He would pay dearly to marry the girl of his choice.

Jesus bought us with His Blood

1 Corinthians 6:20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Acts 20:28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.


When that matter was settled the groom would depart, but before he departed he would make a little speech to his bride, saying something along the lines as, “I'm gonna go and prepare a place for us,” and he would return to his father’s house. Back at his father’s house, he would build her a bridal chamber, (an add on to his fathers house was the tradition), in which they would have their future honeymoon. We should appreciate that he would actually build a separate building on his father’s house. The bridal chamber had to be beautiful – and it had to be stocked with provisions since the bride and groom were going to remain inside for seven days (7 years for the bride of Jesus!).

Jesus tells us in the Gospel of John that He is leaving to prepare a place for us and He will return for us

John 14: 1-4 Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. And where I go you know, and the way you know.”

This pertains to a "pretrib rapture" (there is much speculation and debate over the rapture and when it will occur), however, this is for those that trust in a pretrib rapture. Let us not get off the subject.

The tribulation is seven years long

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.

In the middle of that week or 3 1/2 years as Daniel prophesies is when the Antichrist will reveal his true nature

Daniel 12:7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.

Confirmed in Revelation

Revelation 11:2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.
and more Scripture that refer to 1,260 days = 42 months = 3 1/2 years

The bride, for her part, was obliged to do a lot of waiting. She would take the time to gather her trousseau and be ready when her bridegroom came. Custom provided that she had to have an oil lamp ready in case he came late at night in the darkness, because she had to be ready to travel at a moment’s notice. During this long period of waiting, she was referred to as “consecrated”, “set apart”, “bought with a price”. She was truly a lady-in-waiting, but there was no doubt that her groom would return. Sometimes a young man would depart for a very long time indeed, but of course he had paid a high price for his bride; even though there were other young women available, he would surely return to the one with whom he had made a covenant.

The lamp oil referred here is the Holy Spirit as the parable that Jesus mentioned about the five wise and the five foolish virgins. The wise had oil (Spirit) and the foolish didn't.

Matthew 25: 1-12 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

Scriptures also tell us that the Church (Christians) are set apart.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Finally, the chamber would be ready and the bridegroom would assemble his young friends to accompany him on the exciting trip to claim his bride. The big moment had arrived and the bridegroom was more than ready, we can be sure. He and his young men would set out in the night, making every attempt to completely surprise the bride. However, there were rules to be observed in consideration of a woman’s feelings. The groom couldn't just rush in on her. After all, her hair might be in rollers! Actually, as the excited party of young men would get close to her house, they were obliged to give her a warning. Some in the wedding party would shout, sing and praise loudly for the Bride to hear his coming. And so the groom and his men would charge in, grab the bride and make off with her! The father of the bride and her brothers would look the other way – perhaps just making one quick check to see that this was the young man with the contract – and the wedding party would be off.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

1 Corinthians 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed


When the wedding party reached the house of the groom’s father, the bride and groom would go into their chamber and shut the door. No one else would enter. The groom’s father, meanwhile, would have assembled the wedding guests – his friends – and they would be ready to celebrate the new marriage. Since the wedding was actually going to take seven days (until the appearance of the bridge and groom out of the chamber), it was hard to plan for. Occasionally, the host would run out of wine, as we can well imagine. The Lord Himself graced a wedding at Cana with His presence and replenished the wine for the celebrants as told in John 2.

Jesus tells us that He has set a door before us

Revelation 3:8 I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name

He stands at the door of our heart knocking, waiting for us to open. After He comes for His Church the bride, the door of Grace will be shut.

At the end of the week, the bride and groom would make their long awaited appearance to the cheers of the crowd. There would then be a joyous meal – a marriage supper, which we might refer to as the wedding reception – to honor the new couple. At this point, the bride would have discarded her veil, since she was now a married woman, and all would see exactly who it was the bridegroom had chosen. The new couple and the guests would enjoy a magnificent feast to conclude the entire matrimonial week.

There will be a marriage supper of the Lamb as announced in Scripture

Revelation 19:7-10 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

Notice here how we are called His wife? And we are identified as the Bride of Christ in Revelation as well

Revelation 21:9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came to me and talked with me, saying, “Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

At the end of the seven year tribulation period, The Lord will bring The Church back with Him to setup His Kingdom and Reign for 1,000 years, showing off His Bride to the world!

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
 
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