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Hello, I have a broken heart.

I gave Jesus a go, he never fixed my broken heart.

I guess I'll have to limp through the rest of my life with a broken heart.
 

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Broken hearts hurt...no doubt about it.

But what is worse is when it doesn't break and feels nothing at all.

Being a Christian means that your heart will get broken...a lot more. But it will also hold hope and joy. No one and nothing else can do that.

God isn't a cosmic Santa Claus that hands out great lives like so much candy in his pocket. You need Him...He doesn't need you. He might want you...but He holds no desperate need for your soul.
 

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Broken hearts hurt...no doubt about it.

But what is worse is when it doesn't break and feels nothing at all.

Being a Christian means that your heart will get broken...a lot more. But it will also hold hope and joy. No one and nothing else can do that.

God isn't a cosmic Santa Claus that hands out great lives like so much candy in his pocket. You need Him...He doesn't need you. He might want you...but He holds no desperate need for your soul.
Nope, just needed a new heart. He is that department, right?
 

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Are you having a medical problem or a spiritual problem?
You aren't being really clear.


I agree. It's great to have you here with us Shakaka, but we can't really help you unless you tell us more about what's going on.
 

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Job 14:1 - Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble.
Job 5:7 - Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward.

If we're alive, we're going to have trouble in this life. Better to go through it with Jesus than with anything else this world offers. The great thing about these verses is that Jesus wasn't exempt from this either when he was born of a woman. He truly understands our pain and troubles.
I have a list of people and situations I'm praying for, but like JohnDB said, Jesus is not Santa Claus. I know how I want things to turn out but his ways are better than mine. And I can only see what's in front of me. He's more interested in eternity.
Please don't just give Jesus a go. Make a choice to trust him as your Savior and let the Holy Spirit work in you everyday.

Welcome to the forum!
 

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Hello, I have a broken heart.

I gave Jesus a go, he never fixed my broken heart.

I guess I'll have to limp through the rest of my life with a broken heart.
Hi,
I'm so sorry to hear your heart is broken. That's not a fun place to be.

I've had my heart broken several times, and I've got the limp... Some things will never be the same and the thing about being wounded, is that the wounds leave scars that are void of nerves, and it makes it hard to feel... And sometimes the pain is so deep, you don't want to feel.

But please, do not let the darkness consume you where it strangles out the light. Now is the time to double down and search real hard for all the good that surrounds you.

I don't know what broke your heart, but God made you a promise that he would never leave or forsake you. I imagine the heart of Jesus was broken when he was rejected, beaten and hung on a cross. so, in a way, you understand how Jesus suffered. Really, your sharing in his sufferings.

Better days are ahead of you and your limp will be a blessing. I know that sounds odd, but God's ways are not our ways. You will get through this dark season in your life because the sun always shines in the morning.
 

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Hello Shakaka and welcome to the forum. Really glad you joined us.
Having your heart broken is an extremely painful thing to go through. Sometimes it can take us a long time to find ourselves again, often caused from dwelling on what ever has broken us..The longer it takes the deeper it becomes and we sometimes need somebodies hand to reach out and pull us out of it. You thought of turning to Jesus and He can do this better than anyone. Have faith in Him and He will show you the way.
Time does heal. We may still have the scars and sometimes the pain but it becomes bearable, you learn how to cope. Whatever life was like for you before this happened be thankful you had that time.
The sun can shine for you again. Praying for you Sister.
 

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Job 14:1 - Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble.
Job 5:7 - Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward.

If we're alive, we're going to have trouble in this life. Better to go through it with Jesus than with anything else this world offers. The great thing about these verses is that Jesus wasn't exempt from this either when he was born of a woman. He truly understands our pain and troubles.
I have a list of people and situations I'm praying for, but like JohnDB said, Jesus is not Santa Claus. I know how I want things to turn out but his ways are better than mine. And I can only see what's in front of me. He's more interested in eternity.
Please don't just give Jesus a go. Make a choice to trust him as your Savior and let the Holy Spirit work in you everyday.

Welcome to the forum!
I did!
 

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Hi,
I'm so sorry to hear your heart is broken. That's not a fun place to be.

I've had my heart broken several times, and I've got the limp... Some things will never be the same and the thing about being wounded, is that the wounds leave scars that are void of nerves, and it makes it hard to feel... And sometimes the pain is so deep, you don't want to feel.

But please, do not let the darkness consume you where it strangles out the light. Now is the time to double down and search real hard for all the good that surrounds you.

I don't know what broke your heart, but God made you a promise that he would never leave or forsake you. I imagine the heart of Jesus was broken when he was rejected, beaten and hung on a cross. so, in a way, you understand how Jesus suffered. Really, your sharing in his sufferings.

Better days are ahead of you and your limp will be a blessing. I know that sounds odd, but God's ways are not our ways. You will get through this dark season in your life because the sun always shines in the morning.
I was a Christian once, it turned me into a maniac. It deprived me of my right to think for myself, terrorised me of a fictional place called hell, and made me feel like an all round terrible person.
 

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Hello Shakaka and welcome to the forum. Really glad you joined us.
Having your heart broken is an extremely painful thing to go through. Sometimes it can take us a long time to find ourselves again, often caused from dwelling on what ever has broken us..The longer it takes the deeper it becomes and we sometimes need somebodies hand to reach out and pull us out of it. You thought of turning to Jesus and He can do this better than anyone. Have faith in Him and He will show you the way.
Time does heal. We may still have the scars and sometimes the pain but it becomes bearable, you learn how to cope. Whatever life was like for you before this happened be thankful you had that time.
The sun can shine for you again. Praying for you Sister.
I know exactly what you mean.
 

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No medical problem at this point, I've lost someone I can't replace.
Hello Shakaka, welcome to the forum. Losing someone we love hurts and, yes, our heart is broken when we suffer great loss. Yet I truly believe that we can be grateful we had the experience of knowing and loving someone that much that it would be so hard to say good-bye. I am glad you have no medical problem at this point as good health is a gift which can help sustain you during this grieving process.

I was married 56 years to a wonderful man who I watched slip away bit by bit from Alzheimer's before he died almost two years ago. It does hurt.

It seems from your other posts here (which I just read) you have had a bad experience with a Christian church or group of some kind. Disappointments in other Christians goes with the territory as people are human and people do make mistakes. I hope in time you can forgive anyone who may have hurt you and on behalf of those Christians (who I don't know and will not ever know) I apologize.

I think God is waiting with open arms for you to come to Him. All that you think as lost He has yet to give you. He does restore. But He does expect you to step out in faith and give Him the opportunity.

There must be a reason why you have joined us here. I hope we have helped give you some answers. Meanwhile, you are surely in my prayers today.
 

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I was a Christian once, it turned me into a maniac. It deprived me of my right to think for myself, terrorised me of a fictional place called hell, and made me feel like an all round terrible person.
No medical problem at this point, I've lost someone I can't replace.
So
Why are you here?
What do you think that we can do for you?

We have all lost people that we love. (Some even recently) But that didn't mean that we became self destructive to the point of giving up our identity.
Christians don't fear hell. Hell is something that makes us worry about others.

You somehow think that you became a terrible person while you were a Christian?
If that was true then you weren't doing it right.
We focus on acts of kindness, unearned favor, and forgiveness. (Not exactly horrible behavior)
Being kind doesn't make us Christians...it's a natural result of a relationship with God which is exactly what does.
 

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Hello Shakaka, welcome to the forum. Losing someone we love hurts and, yes, our heart is broken when we suffer great loss. Yet I truly believe that we can be grateful we had the experience of knowing and loving someone that much that it would be so hard to say good-bye. I am glad you have no medical problem at this point as good health is a gift which can help sustain you during this grieving process.

I was married 56 years to a wonderful man who I watched slip away bit by bit from Alzheimer's before he died almost two years ago. It does hurt.

It seems from your other posts here (which I just read) you have had a bad experience with a Christian church or group of some kind. Disappointments in other Christians goes with the territory as people are human and people do make mistakes. I hope in time you can forgive anyone who may have hurt you and on behalf of those Christians (who I don't know and will not ever know) I apologize.

I think God is waiting with open arms for you to come to Him. All that you think as lost He has yet to give you. He does restore. But He does expect you to step out in faith and give Him the opportunity.

There must be a reason why you have joined us here. I hope we have helped give you some answers. Meanwhile, you are surely in my prayers today.
Who gets the right theology from the right Church? I don't know one Christian who's theology lines up with any other Christians theology. Whatever you believe in your heart of hearts is something you want to impress on the lost, but the next Christian will have a different set of beliefs they want to impress. No matter how small or large a theological difference, it will make an inpact on the newly lost who enter the fold. So how does someone make sense out of all this theological mess, you might say "Read the bible" Okay, then why would I need other believer's telling me their brand of theology when I can read the bible for myself, and come to my own conclusion (Which I did)
 

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So
Why are you here?
What do you think that we can do for you?

We have all lost people that we love. (Some even recently) But that didn't mean that we became self destructive to the point of giving up our identity.
Christians don't fear hell. Hell is something that makes us worry about others.

You somehow think that you became a terrible person while you were a Christian?
If that was true then you weren't doing it right.
We focus on acts of kindness, unearned favor, and forgiveness. (Not exactly horrible behavior)
Being kind doesn't make us Christians...it's a natural result of a relationship with God which is exactly what does.
If you can only be nice and kind by invoking God in your mind then you've actually done no kind or nice thing's from yourself alone, because you needed motivation to get there. But love and kindness does come from imperfect beings, as awful as that sounds.
 

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Okay, then why would I need other believer's telling me their brand of theology when I can read the bible for myself, and come to my own conclusion (Which I did)
Is what you wrote in another post (below) what you concluded from your reading of the bible yourself?
I was a Christian once, it turned me into a maniac. It deprived me of my right to think for myself, terrorised me of a fictional place called hell, and made me feel like an all round terrible person.
I agree with John's post.
You somehow think that you became a terrible person while you were a Christian?
If that was true then you weren't doing it right.
We focus on acts of kindness, unearned favor, and forgiveness. (Not exactly horrible behavior)
I am wondering if you read the same bible I did. Am also wondering why you are here. Did you read our statement of faith?

You could find it worthwhile to read the bible again. I think you may be missing the message. Because there are different churches and different theologies does not mean that the words of the bible cannot be understood by those who truly seek God. In faith we believe in the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
 

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If you can only be nice and kind by invoking God in your mind then you've actually done no kind or nice thing's from yourself alone, because you needed motivation to get there. But love and kindness does come from imperfect beings, as awful as that sounds.
Not even close.
Obviously you haven't learned what it means to be a Christian. Reading scriptures isn't enough, being kind to others isn't enough, losing your pride and gaining humility isn't enough.

It requires a relationship with the One Living God...He alone is why I am who I am.

I'm not a member of a "good guy" club. I'd never qualify for that.
But maybe you did join a "good guy" club for a while.
 

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I was a Christian once, it turned me into a maniac. It deprived me of my right to think for myself, terrorised me of a fictional place called hell, and made me feel like an all round terrible person.
I understand, but not only do I understand, but I also have found myself in a similar situation as you with the same theological questions that tormented me.

A good portion of my childhood was spent in a Catholic orphanage and foster homes. I don't know why God put it so deeply in the fabric of my soul to be a Father, but from a young age I wanted nothing more than a child, even when I myself was a child.

Imagine the joy I had holding my first born. But not only the joy, but the love. It's something so deep that I can't explain it. I would hold her in my arms and look into her deep brown eyes. She was so very precious to me. Even though I was working 10 and 12 hour days, it was a joy to rock her in the middle of the night. Those where precious moments for me.

The joy was short lived and at around 4 months, my beloved daughter had passed. I was a wreck, and I didn't understand why God had taken my precious, sweet child. My pain turned into hatred and anger and that hatred was poured out on anyone that stepped in my way, including God. I remember the day clearly when I looked up to God, shook my fists at him, gave him the bird and with every ounce of rage that was consuming me, unloaded on him.

It took years for me, and I had heard some say my child was in heaven, some said they didn't know, and others say she was in hell. The idea she was in hell tormented me for years. Read our Statement of Faith... I have studied this subject deeply and it is embedded.

Fast forward 20 something years and I lost my second Daughter. February 11th is the day I lost her.... I want to say she died only 4 short years ago. I'm still healing, and so is our family. I was so confused when I lost her, I didn't understand.... My heart was literally broken. Physically, my heart hurt. I was traumatized to the point I had to put all my theology aside. God confused me and theology only added to my mental issues. It was too much so I told God, hey, I love you, but I'm confused, I don't understand. I'm going through a lot right now and some of this theology stuff is just making things worse.

It wasn't until last year that God brought me back to this site and things are starting to make since again and I am starting to really see the depths of God's love for us.

We go through seasons in life, and not all of them are sunny days. There is a time for everything, but none of its wasted.

Your in a dark season in your life... I don't know the specifics, but I understand dark times. You have the right to feel the way you feel.its normal and it's expected.

God had some pretty big shoulders to let me beat up on him many, many years ago. But then again, he let His son get beat up, mocked, falsely accused and hung on a cross for public display as a common criminal because he loved us. It reminds me of the day I blackened both eyes and gave a bloody nose to my own Father. He just stood there and let me beat him. He never laid a hand in me and just stood there till I was finished. Dad was V Cor LRRP. A Ranger of the 101st.

God's got some pretty big shoulders, and he knows your in a season that your really not sure what's going on. But one thing I do know is this. God isn't going to leave or forsake you and when you exhaust yourself, you'll find out he never left your side.
 

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