Ok, then the following verses then are the context of what Jesus was refferring to about seeing the kingdom of God, which states -
27 "But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God." 28 Now it came to pass, about eight days after these sayings, that He took Peter, John, and James and went up on the mountain to pray. 29 As He prayed, the appearance of His face was altered, and His robe became white and glistening. 30 And behold, two men talked with Him, who were Moses and Elijah, 31 who appeared in glory and spoke of His decease which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 But Peter and those with him were heavy with sleep; and when they were fully awake, they saw His glory and the two men who stood with Him. 33 Then it happened, as they were parting from Him, that Peter said to Jesus, "Master, it is good for us to be here; and let us make three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah"--not knowing what he said. 34 While he was saying this, a cloud came and overshadowed them; and they were fearful as they entered the cloud.
35 And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!" 36 When the voice had ceased, Jesus was found alone. But they kept quiet, and told no one in those days any of the things they had seen.
Were Moses and Elijah a part of Gods Kingdom?
What were the disciples shown when they entered the cloud?
JLB
It says that they kept quiet and told no one IN THOSE DAYS [the days of Jesus' living] of the transfiguration, not particularly what they had seen [if anything] in the clouds.
Here are the contexts of the 3 accounts
for all to see. Note particularly the verse directly preceding
[BLACK] the verse telling his disciples that some standing there who would not taste death till they had seen the kingdom of God.
[BLUE] The black verses use the words power, glory, angels, reward, etc. which you said I added to the text.
Matthew 16 (King James Version)
Matt 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Mark 8
27 And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
28 And they answered, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Luke:
18 And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am?
19 They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again.
20 He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.
21 And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing;
22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
The context of his words are his affirming [again] his deity as the son of God. This time he asks them to tell him who they say that He is.
And then he tells his disciples of his coming suffering and death.
Mark 8:34 says that he called the others who were with them to hear these words. Thus the testing and suffering would not be limited to the 12 disciples.
Then he tells them all those who are following him [in this adulterous and sinful generation] that they will also suffer and be tempted to the point of death, to deny him; the truth of his identity [Peters confession]; and the authority of his positive words and message of LIFE. These verses are highlighted in RED.
Thus, with the context of his telling them of his impeding suffering and death at the hands of the Jewish leaders, he is saying that they also will be tested in the same way. This is later again forecast for them in the olivet [and likely other places in the gospels, revelation and epistles.
In the OT, t's foretold in Dan 7:21,25 as the war against the saints; forecast in Deut 32:19 as the provoking of his sons and daughters; and in Is 59:15 it says that those who wished to depart from evil made themselves a prey. There's likely many other references.
Speaking to the Scribes and Pharisees;
Matt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
In the Olivet:
Matt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Luke
21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Mark
13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. [Isaiah 66:5]
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
He that maintained his testimony of truth [Peters confession] and their peace were the ones who were vindicated
[rewarded] and eternally "saved", approved, justified. [though some may have physically lost their lives]
Furthermore, those who remained alive through these events were allowed to safely escape Jerusalem/Judea and to safely recross Jordan into Pella, or into Asia Minor or other areas until after the events had transpired and the persecutions eased.
In another post you asked;
What would be more ridiculous to believe between these two statements -
Jesus has already returned and the resurrection is past. Or
The wailing wall is in fact part of the Temple, and therefore not one stone upon another has yet occurred.
The wailing wall,
if not part of a later rebuilding attempt, was part of the outer supporting wall of the temple mount complex of buildings; not part of the temple itself or it's outer court walls. It's likely a artifact of Herod's expanded extravagance.
However, what is more viable and supported?
To re-consider that Jesus returned [in power, glory, with angels, with reward] AND REMAINS through his believers as was prophesied and as he told those to whom he was speaking;
Or that Jesus lied or was misinformed about the fathers timing of his coming in his Kingdom with power before some of those to whom he was speaking had tasted death?
and to twist Jesus' intent, purpose and words about the timing of the destruction of the temple just because those happenings don't fit our previous beliefs and indoctrination about a future "end of the world", OR even because we find a few particulars [the wailing wall] which, when mistaken for something he was referring to, [the temple and it's buildings] don't fit the actions that were to be taken upon those things which He WAS referring to; namely the temple and it's buildings.
You've already affirmed that Jesus came in his kingdom by trying to fit the words of Lk 9:27 into the events [the transfiguration] directly following. But yet you say he is speaking of a still future coming in the olivet, though he says in Mk 8/9; Matt 16; Luke 9; that he would come in his kingdom in power and glory, with angels and reward
before some of those who were standing there would die.
Perhaps a reconsideration of what is meant by the end of the age, and the kingdom of God [and other doctrines] is in order.
Thanks all for enduring these repeated topics.