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Are Belief and Faith the same?

If I believe in someone, I also have faith in them.
Faith, as in trust.

If I have faith in someone, I also believe in them.
Believe in, as trust in.

Right?
 
They are both the same thing. Faith means the trustworthiness or reliance on something you believe.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
 
They are both the same thing. Faith means the trustworthiness or reliance on something you believe.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Thanks FHG, and thanks for Hebrews 11:6!
 

Not to be political, but to identify with an example. I believe in President Trump, but I do not have Faith in him or that he will make the right decision for the nation; But yes, I believe in him to the extent that he exists.
 
Belief alone does not include repentance. Can one be saved without repentance?

Hey now, you're running afoul of the 5 solas! I always thought it was amusing that for something supposedly "only," that there could be 5 of them.

Like as in, I'm an only child, and here's my brother Darryl, and my other brother Darrel.
 
Hey now, you're running afoul of the 5 solas! I always thought it was amusing that for something supposedly "only," that there could be 5 of them.

Like as in, I'm an only child, and here's my brother Darryl, and my other brother Darrel.

Guess you will have to make your self a little more clearer for this old man.
 
All true. However belief alone is not sufficient unto salvation.

You are right as even the demons believe and tremble. Although belief is the beginning of faith which is Christ Jesus in whom is our salvation to all who will believe and accept Him as Lord and Savior. Those who are in Christ are His own.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
 
Are Belief and Faith the same?

If I believe in someone, I also have faith in them.
Faith, as in trust.

If I have faith in someone, I also believe in them.
Believe in, as trust in.

Right?


I think we use biblical words in our modern everyday communication sometimes to express ourselves, without fully understanding the meaning of those words as they were expressed in the original language.

To answer your question, yes believe and faith used in our modern vernacular are primarily the same.


If we are referring to the biblical words as they were used in the original language then no.


Biblically Speaking -

Faith is a noun.

Believe is a verb.


Faith is what we receive from God when He speaks to us.


Believe is our part that we must do in order to activate the faith that we receive from God when He speaks to us.



Believe also carries the idea of obedience.

If we believe Jesus is Lord, but don’t submit to Him in obediently then we really don’t believe.

Unbelief and disobedience are the same Greek word.

Without obedience faith remains dormant and inactive; unable to produce the intended divine result.




JLB
 
I believe that James T Kirk was Captain of the USS Enterprise.
You believe James T. Kirk was a real person and this person captained the USS Enterprise? When did he captain that decommissioned naval aircraft carrier?
 
I think we use biblical words in our modern everyday communication sometimes to express ourselves, without fully understanding the meaning of those words as they were expressed in the original language.

To answer your question, yes believe and faith used in our modern vernacular are primarily the same.


If we are referring to the biblical words as they were used in the original language then no.


Biblically Speaking -

Faith is a noun.


Believe is a verb.


Faith is what we receive from God when He speaks to us.


Believe is our part that we must do in order to activate the faith that we receive from God when He speaks to us.



Believe also carries the idea of obedience.

If we believe Jesus is Lord, but don’t submit to Him in obediently then we really don’t believe.

Unbelief and disobedience are the same Greek word.

Without obedience faith remains dormant and inactive; unable to produce the intended divine result.




JLB

How about our PM?
 
Are Belief and Faith the same?

If I believe in someone, I also have faith in them.
Faith, as in trust.

If I have faith in someone, I also believe in them.
Believe in, as trust in.

Right?

To have faith in someone or something, one must rely on past experiences regarding them/it. We use evidence gathered thru whatever means to be able to have faith that our decisions regarding what we believe will be the correct & prudent choice.

In order to believe, one must have faith with one's decisions from past experiences. We utilize any & all research venues available, or should anyway, to make the prudent decision re having faith in ourselves making a decision to what our beliefs are ....... regarding ....... everything.

I look at faith as an individual's confidence with making decisions. From this confidence, we make choices to believe, trust, etc or not to believe, trust, etc.
Example - Someone wants me to trust them re performing a task. If I have never made any choice to trust anyone in this situation b4, I will not have any faith in a decision I make immediately to be the correct one. (Sure, I can say I will trust that person, but there is no faith that I will be making a prudent decision b4 I know if this person can perform said task). & if I've never had any experience knowing what tools to utilize making decisions on how to go about trusting someone with doing a task, I will not have any confidence with this choice. I would have no faith in myself re making a choice right? I could not gauge with any degree of confidence that I believe in this person to accomplish it.

So, b4 one can believe in something/someone, one must have faith they are able to have the tools to make the decision to believe in something/someone. Faith & belief go hand in hand, altho they are separate.
 
All true. However belief alone is not sufficient unto salvation.

Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
 
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe in Him, not on Him as many only know Him by His name alone and have no relationship with Him.

Belief and faith leads to trust in Christ alone as we are saved by grace through faith which is Christ Jesus in whom we believe in.

Does this belief of which you speak include repentance?
 
I think we use biblical words in our modern everyday communication sometimes to express ourselves, without fully understanding the meaning of those words as they were expressed in the original language.

To answer your question, yes believe and faith used in our modern vernacular are primarily the same.


If we are referring to the biblical words as they were used in the original language then no.


Biblically Speaking -

Faith is a noun.

Believe is a verb.


Faith is what we receive from God when He speaks to us.


Believe is our part that we must do in order to activate the faith that we receive from God when He speaks to us.



Believe also carries the idea of obedience.

If we believe Jesus is Lord, but don’t submit to Him in obediently then we really don’t believe.

Unbelief and disobedience are the same Greek word.

Without obedience faith remains dormant and inactive; unable to produce the intended divine result.




JLB

Good stuff there. I was looking for those words, but not finding them.

This is how a talk forum is supposed to work; and also Christian fellowship :hug
 
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