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StoveBolts

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Odd, ill have to check that out. Most drug tests only look for THC.
The CBD i get has zero THC.... But i know a lot of CBD products has trace amounts.

Kinda like the rule about not eating a Bagel with poppy seeds or you'll test positive for opioids...
 

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How are people who won't pass a drug test suppose to get a job these days?

I mean i understand health and safety but no one should interfere with a deal between two private parties. Business are doing everything they can these days to cover themself because if someone hurts themself and was on something then as usual it's always someone else fault, you didn't drug test them so it's your fault.
It's like many private business have stopped friday knock off shout, someone willingly decides to have a drink or more and drives home has a accident, not there fault, someone elses fault.

For some reason these days someone is responsible for another individuals choices and decisions.
It's about liability, not nosiness. In our society today, just being remotely involved places one at some level of reliability in an accident. Here's an example.

I served on our company's product safety committee where we defined what was required in order to design our machinery to offer a safe working environment as best we can. At one point we were visited by our corporate attorney and he told us that no matter how well we guard a machine, provide warning stickers, put safety warnings in our user's manual, provide safe procedures, and so forth we can never eliminate our liability completely. The question then becomes how much liability are we held responsible for? He also told us that it was possible to guard a machine so well, that the guards themselves can become a liability risk because if they are too difficult to remove, the tendency is to leave them off and we would be held responsible for making a guard that was too difficult to remove.

Here's an example of something that has happened more than once.

One of our machinery products wraps heat-shrink film around trays of product. The feeder that delivers that film to the tray and wraps it around it is a servo-driven set of pinch roller similar to an old wringer washing machine had if you know what I'm talking about. The plastic film is threaded through one set of pinch rollers past an extremely sharp serrated knife and then through a second set of pinch rollers. As the film is passing by the knife is fired to cut the film to length.

We have developed a very strict procedure for threading new film when it is necessary. It requires the end of the film to be wrapped around a threading card (conveyor belt material) and then jammed against the first set of pinch rollers. The operator must then close the machine guard, reset the machine to clear all faults, and ready the machine for operation then select a film jog mode and press the start button.

In film jog mode, the film is fed very slowly through the pinch rollers, past the knife, and into the second set of pinch rollers. The knife is disabled for this mode so it doesn't try to cut through the threading card as that would likely damage the knife and at the slow speed it runs, it wouldn't feed property into the second set of pinch rollers. Once it has fed the film with the conveyor belt material through the second pinch rollers, the operator can then open the guard door, which disables all power to the servo motor and remove the threading card.

We intentionally position the machine pushbutton controls far enough away that it is not possible to dummy the guard door and press the jog button at the same time. We have warning labels all over the place warning of pinch point hazards and sharp knife hazards. Well, some operators just don't seem to get it. We have had a few situations where one operator would hold the film against the pinch roller with one hand, instead of using the threading card, and holding the door switch with his other hand while another operator resets the machine and pushes the start button.

BUT, instead of selecting the film jog mode, which is really slow, the operator selects manual cycle mode and presses the start button. In manual cycle mode, the film is fed through at rapid speed and the knife is fired to initiate a film cut and position the film for normal running.

You can probably guess what happens. The person holding the film against the pinch rollers gets his hand caught and pulled into the pinch rollers where the knife fires and snips off the fingers. We are held to some level of liability for this even though we have done everything we can think of to provide a safe way to do this and the operators did everything they could to break the rules.
 

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US Patent 6,630,507: Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants

Application filed by US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). 2003-10-07. Publication of US6630507B1.
 

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depending on body weight thc can stay in your system for a long period of time, U.A . can be beat provided you know the ropes drink pickle juice helps there is a herb you can mix up as tea drink.. but also if see something funky.. they can do a hair folic test . drugs stay in the hair for months
 

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I got high once. Didn't care for it, and never did it again.

Having said that, the "war on drugs" turned out to be the war on America, most notably on minorities. The private prison lobby is constantly pushing for longer sentences for weed, to keep their profits up. And the drug cartels in Mexico owe their existence to our drug laws.

It's time to realize that we're doing more damage to America than we're doing good, with those laws.
 

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I got high once. Didn't care for it, and never did it again.

Having said that, the "war on drugs" turned out to be the war on America, most notably on minorities. The private prison lobby is constantly pushing for longer sentences for weed, to keep their profits up. And the drug cartels in Mexico owe their existence to our drug laws.

It's time to realize that we're doing more damage to America than we're doing good, with those laws.
I think the war on drugs had the right intention but looking back, we understand it didn't work.
Now we are doing a 360... Intentions are good, but just like the war on drugs, time will tell.
 

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