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Dead Sea Scroll 4q417 states the Nephilim were the children of Seth whom God condemned. I never heard of that one. My own understanding was that the Sons of God were the line of Adam and the Daughters of Men were the Neanderthal.
 

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Luke 3:23-38 are the genealogy starting with Jesus and his earthly lineage starting with Joseph clear back to Enos being the son of Seth. Seth only had one child and that was Enos and Enos was married to Noam being Seth's daughter-in-law.

Sons of God is used many times in scripture to refer to men (not angels) such as Genesis 5:1, 2 and Luke 3:38 calling Adam the son of God. Adam was the first son followed by Seth and then his son Enos and the family began to call on God, Genesis 4:26. These are the first sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6. Sons of God have always been followers, believers and worshippers of God. Man was created in the image of God in His likeness for the purpose of having dominion over the earth and to multiply the earth as male and female created he them, Genesis 1:26-28. Nowhere does it say that angels were involved with multiplying or having any dominion over the earth as Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 makes it clear that angels do not marry nor are given in marriage so in fact they also can not procreate.
 
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Luke 3:23-38 are the genealogy starting with Jesus and his earthly lineage starting with Joseph clear back to Enos being the son of Seth. Seth only had one child and that was Enos and Enos was married to Noam being Seth's daughter-in-law.

Sons of God is used many times in scripture to refer to men (not angels) such as Genesis 5:1, 2 and Luke 3:38 calling Adam the son of God. Adam was the first son followed by Seth and then his son Enos and the family began to call on God, Genesis 4:26. These are the first sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6. Sons of God have always been followers, believers and worshippers of God. Man was created in the image of God in His likeness for the purpose of having dominion over the earth and to multiply the earth as male and female created he them, Genesis 1:26-28. Nowhere does it say that angels were involved with multiplying or having any dominion over the earth as Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 makes it clear that angels do not marry nor are given in marriage so in fact they also can not procreate.
Absolutely agree. I've never held to the fallen angel business.
 

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One question..
In Job 1:6 states that there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them..

Were these not angels?

Job 38:1-8 speaks of the foundation of the world...
Verse 7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy..

Were these not angels?

Anything that is created is a son of God.
 

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Luke 3:23-38 are the genealogy starting with Jesus and his earthly lineage starting with Joseph clear back to Enos being the son of Seth. Seth only had one child and that was Enos and Enos was married to Noam being Seth's daughter-in-law.

Sons of God is used many times in scripture to refer to men (not angels) such as Genesis 5:1, 2 and Luke 3:38 calling Adam the son of God. Adam was the first son followed by Seth and then his son Enos and the family began to call on God, Genesis 4:26. These are the first sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6. Sons of God have always been followers, believers and worshippers of God. Man was created in the image of God in His likeness for the purpose of having dominion over the earth and to multiply the earth as male and female created he them, Genesis 1:26-28. Nowhere does it say that angels were involved with multiplying or having any dominion over the earth as Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 makes it clear that angels do not marry nor are given in marriage so in fact they also can not procreate.
Yes, there is no flesh womb in heaven. But is on earth.
Jesus was conceived in a flesh womb.

In the end times it notes in Matt.24:37-39
But as in the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
They were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered the ark.

What is wrong with us given unto marriage, should be a blessing?
What is wrong with eating?

Are we not marrying daughters of men now?

As we see in Rev.12:9
Satan and his angels will be cast out onto the earth, as I believe in the days of Noe.

Gen 6:4
There were GIANTS in the earth in those days, and ALSO AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and bare children to them..Like Goliath

The same became mighty men which WERE OF OLD, MEN OF RENOWN.

We see in Gen.19:1-11
2 angels visited Lot,the people of Sodom wanted their way with them.
 
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One question..
In Job 1:6 states that there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them..

Were these not angels?

Job 38:1-8 speaks of the foundation of the world...
Verse 7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy..

Were these not angels?

Anything that is created is a son of God.
Those sons of God in Job 1:6; 2:1 that presented themselves before the Lord are followers of God just as Moses followed and worshipped God and was called of God to present himself before Him on mount Sinai, Exodus 34:2. Read Job 1:6 again. It says Satan came also among them when they went to present themselves before the Lord. This means Satan was there like he is with all of Gods children to try and buffet them. If you go back to vs. 5 you read that it was Job who sent his sons (sons of God) to go and be in the presence of the Lord that God would sanctify them. Satan, being a spirit that Job's sons could not see came among them as a buffer trying to interfere with God sanctifying them. When God asked Satan where he came from he said from going to and fro in the earth and from walking up and down in it.

If you break down Genesis 6:1-8 You can see that those sons of God were not angels as angels are spirit and can not procreate nor are given in marriage, Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25. 1Corinthians 15:39, 40 states that men are men, animals are animals, fish are fish and angels are angels. There is no scripture which would even remotely lead us to believe angels had sex with women or that Giants were born of them.

It was men who began to multiply on earth, Godly and ungodly men (not angels) and daughters were born unto them. The sons of God, Godly line of Seth, took them wives of the daughters of the ungodly line of Cain and choose wives from them. These daughters were more likely ungodly women being from the line of Cain and not of Seth. This is why God said my spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh.
 

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Yes, there is no flesh womb in heaven. But is on earth.
Jesus was conceived in a flesh womb.

In the end times it notes in Matt.24:37-39
But as in the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
They were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered the ark.

What is wrong with us given unto marriage, should be a blessing?
What is wrong with eating?

Are we not marrying daughters of men now?

As we see in Rev.12:9
Satan and his angels will be cast out onto the earth, as I believe in the days of Noe.

Gen 6:4
There were GIANTS in the earth in those days, and ALSO AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and bare children to them..Like Goliath

The same became mighty men which WERE OF OLD, MEN OF RENOWN.

We see in Gen.19:1-11
2 angels visited Lot,the people of Sodom wanted their way with them.
As in the days of Noah he was the only faithful one who found favor in the Lord. It will be the same with the return of Christ as only the faithful will find favor in he Lord and be with Him for eternity.

I already showed you who the sons of God are as here on earth that are God's children in post #6. As far as giants, that just means men of a very large height as they are just the sons of their fathers and mothers as angels can not procreate, nor can they marry as they are spirit, not flesh and blood.
 

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As in the days of Noah he was the only faithful one who found favor in the Lord. It will be the same with the return of Christ as only the faithful will find favor in he Lord and be with Him for eternity.

I already showed you who the sons of God are as here on earth that are God's children in post #6. As far as giants, that just means men of a very large height as they are just the sons of their fathers and mothers as angels can not procreate, nor can they marry as they are spirit, not flesh and blood.
God is a Spirit, thus the Holy Spirit came into Mary, and conceived Jesus, lol.

So you are saying, that ungodly men married Godly women, thus they became giants.
I don't know about that, how could this mess up, DNA?

We have ungodly men with Godly wives now, majority of them have no giants.

Just curious..what's your take on Job 38:7 ?

Also the verse in Matt.22:30 and others, states after the resurrection. There is no flesh and blood in heaven, but there is on earth.
 
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My own opinion is that the sons of God are of the Godly line (the red thread) from Adam to Jesus and that the Daughters of men are Neanderthals. DNA research has shown that most of us have neanderthal DNA to some degree. I believe at the time these sons of God did this, their DNA was pure and they lived for centuries. Mixing this "super DNA" with neanderthals probably produced super hunters in the short run but badly contaminated the DNA resulting in shorter lifespans and disease in the long run.
 

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God is a Spirit, thus the Holy Spirit came into Mary, and conceived Jesus, lol.

So you are saying, that ungodly men married Godly women, thus they became giants.
I don't know about that, how could this mess up, DNA?

We have ungodly men with Godly wives now, majority of them have no giants.

Just curious..what's your take on Job 38:7 ?

Also the verse in Matt.22:30 and others, states after the resurrection. There is no flesh and blood in heaven, but there is on earth.
We are all sons of God and daughters of God through that of the Spirit of adoption where by we cry Abba Father, Romans 8:15. When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7. Morning stars in scripture are usually angels except where it depicts that of the brightness of Christ as in Rev 22:16 Jesus is called the bright morning star as in reference to his brightness as in an actual morning star. If you notice in Job 38:7 morning stars (angels) are spoken separate from the sons of God (men). If they were not separate and both mean angels then why did God use both phrases? In Job chapter 38 God was asking Job certain questions as He demanded answers from Job. Everything that God was asking him was before Jobs time when the angels (morning stars) sang praises to the Lord in heaven just as men worship the Lord on earth with shouts of joy from the beginning when men called on God, Genesis 4:6.

Notice in Matthew 22:30 where it is written "but are as the angels of God in heaven." This shows that angels could never marry.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).
 

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My own opinion is that the sons of God are of the Godly line (the red thread) from Adam to Jesus and that the Daughters of men are Neanderthals. DNA research has shown that most of us have neanderthal DNA to some degree. I believe at the time these sons of God did this, their DNA was pure and they lived for centuries. Mixing this "super DNA" with neanderthals probably produced super hunters in the short run but badly contaminated the DNA resulting in shorter lifespans and disease in the long run.
I know this is just your opinion and I respect that, but DNA only suggest there being Neanderthal and that Homo sapiens evolved from them. If one really thinks about it we are all from the bloodline of Adam and Eve through the children they had who married and had children who went out and founded the various countries that evolved within the seven continents.

Within the various regions man went into can be determined by hair, skin, facial features and what it was that produced disease within that region after the flood in Noah's day. It's only what we look like that has evolved from the seven continents here on earth. My family genealogy comes from Hungry, Romania, Portugal and Germany, but where did their ancestors come from before these countries were founded.
 
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I know this is just your opinion and I respect that, but DNA only suggest there being Neanderthal and that Homo sapiens evolved from them. If one really thinks about it we are all from the bloodline of Adam and Eve through the children they had who married and had children who went out and founded the various countries that evolved within the seven continents.

Within the various regions man went into can be determined by hair, skin, facial features and what it was that produced disease within that region after the flood in Noah's day. It's only what we look like that has evolved from the seven continents here on earth. My family genealogy comes from Hungry, Romania, Portugal and Germany, but where did their ancestors come from before these countries were founded.
Actually DNA supports neanderthals were separate from homo sapiens and that cross breeding not evolution is the reason we now have residual neanderthal DNA among us.
 

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My own opinion is that the sons of God are of the Godly line (the red thread) from Adam to Jesus and that the Daughters of men are Neanderthals. DNA research has shown that most of us have neanderthal DNA to some degree. I believe at the time these sons of God did this, their DNA was pure and they lived for centuries. Mixing this "super DNA" with neanderthals probably produced super hunters in the short run but badly contaminated the DNA resulting in shorter lifespans and disease in the long run.
Thanks for your opinion.
Will chew on this for awhile.
 

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We are all sons of God and daughters of God through that of the Spirit of adoption where by we cry Abba Father, Romans 8:15. When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7. Morning stars in scripture are usually angels except where it depicts that of the brightness of Christ as in Rev 22:16 Jesus is called the bright morning star as in reference to his brightness as in an actual morning star. If you notice in Job 38:7 morning stars (angels) are spoken separate from the sons of God (men). If they were not separate and both mean angels then why did God use both phrases? In Job chapter 38 God was asking Job certain questions as He demanded answers from Job. Everything that God was asking him was before Jobs time when the angels (morning stars) sang praises to the Lord in heaven just as men worship the Lord on earth with shouts of joy from the beginning when men called on God, Genesis 4:6.

Notice in Matthew 22:30 where it is written "but are as the angels of God in heaven." This shows that angels could never marry.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).
Thanks for your response, will chew on this also.
I love it when we have these debates, lol.

I see this as a big picture, which some do not agree with.
No surprise!

We have 3 earth and heaven ages.
First age.
1. Satan is a fallen angel, he use to be a cherub , Ezek.28:12-19
Then we have the katabole, rebellion of Satan.
Did you know that Satan, which in the KJV, Isa. 14:12, is also called Lucifer, which means, in the sense of brightness, the MORNING STAR, as Christ.
In Rev.12:1-4
We have Mother Israel in heaven, Satan drew 1/3 part of the stars of heaven. They rebelled, followed Satan, just waiting to devour her seed, when through Eve and Mary the Christ seed would be born..

Thus the second age, flesh, this age now,
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Thanks for your response, will chew on this also.
I love it when we have these debates, lol.

I see this as a big picture, which some do not agree with.
No surprise!

We have 3 earth and heaven ages.
First age.
1. Satan is a fallen angel, he use to be a cherub , Ezek.28:12-19
Then we have the katabole, rebellion of Satan.
Did you know that Satan, which in the KJV, Isa. 14:12, is also called Lucifer, which means, in the sense of brightness, the MORNING STAR, as Christ.
In Rev.12:1-4
We have Mother Israel in heaven, Satan drew 1/3 part of the stars of heaven. They rebelled, followed Satan, just waiting to devour her seed, when through Eve and Mary the Christ seed would be born..

Thus the second age, flesh, this age now,
Continue later, battery getting low.
Isaiah 14:12 In the Roman language Lucifer was the name given to the morning star Venus. The morning star appears in the sky just before dawn. In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can be translated as Day star, son of the Dawn. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor Day star, son of the Dawn, as Lucifer, and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place from the Latin in that of interpreting Lucifer into a fallen angel now named Satan. In the original Hebrew day star, son of the dawn is used, but not for that of Satan, but for the king of Babylon. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light (Jesus) to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded.

The name Satan comes from a Hebrew word sah-TAHN which means adversary as in signifying an enemy, and an accuser, father of lies.

Rev 12:1-4 John is shown a great sign in heaven as he sees a vision of a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. The sun is representative of the glory and brilliance of Gods righteousness that surrounds her and protects her. Under her feet the moon which is illustrative of eternity, light, Gods faithfulness in His Son Jesus who is the greater light of the gospel age as Jesus being the light of the world that shines in darkness, but the darkness can not comprehend the light, Psalms 72:5-7; Isaiah 2:3-5; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Isaiah 30:26-33; John 1:1-5.

The woman is symbolic of Israel and the congregation of Gods people as she wears a crown of twelve stars which represents the twelve tribes of Israel that have repented of their arrogance as they felt they deserved Gods favor, but yet kept killing the prophets God sent to them, including the very Messiah they were waiting for. This is when the times of the Gentiles began as God went to them to take Himself a people that were humbled enough to receive salvation as God had mercy on them, Matthew 23:37-39; Acts 15:14; Romans 11:25-27.

Paul also warned the Gentiles against being lifted up in pride because they had been favored by God with salvation as he explained the blindness of Israel would not last forever as when they see the Gentiles now having favor in the Lord and being grafted into the branch of Israel they repent of their sin and turn back to God being once again found in His favor, Romans Chapter 11.

The true congregation of God can be symbolized here as a mother that has all here children gathered in one place for safety which in this case is under the wings of the almighty God, Psalms 91. She cries out like a woman in labor as the pain of her persecutions has become too great to bear as she waits to be delivered from her persecutors, 2 Timothy 4:18; 2 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.

The other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been thrown out of heaven yet. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8.
 

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Actually DNA supports neanderthals were separate from homo sapiens and that cross breeding not evolution is the reason we now have residual neanderthal DNA among us.
OK, I'm going back in history to the beginning.

Genesis 3:23, 24 God drove Adam east out of the garden which the garden was SE of present day Turkey. The river that was in Eden and flowed out of it parted into four rivers being Pison that which compasseth the whole land of Havilah. The second was Gihon that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. The third was Hiddekel (Tigris river) that went toward the east of Assyria. The fourth is the Euphrates that flows through what was Babylon, now present day Syria and Iraq.

Since Adam and Eve were driven out east of the garden of Eden this would put them somewhere around the river Hiddekel (Tigris) river side that defines the Mesopotamia area which makes up the eastern Mediterranean area. Seth was born in 3670BC and would have been only know as the son of Adam and Eve as no one would know what they looked like as they were not primates like those skulls they found and took pictures of them.

It just borderlines evolution of us coming from primates IMO. We all look different from whatever region our ancestors came from, but to each there own what they want to believe
 

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Isaiah 14:12 In the Roman language Lucifer was the name given to the morning star Venus. The morning star appears in the sky just before dawn. In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can be translated as Day star, son of the Dawn. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor Day star, son of the Dawn, as Lucifer, and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place from the Latin in that of interpreting Lucifer into a fallen angel now named Satan. In the original Hebrew day star, son of the dawn is used, but not for that of Satan, but for the king of Babylon. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light (Jesus) to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded.

The name Satan comes from a Hebrew word sah-TAHN which means adversary as in signifying an enemy, and an accuser, father of lies.

Rev 12:1-4 John is shown a great sign in heaven as he sees a vision of a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. The sun is representative of the glory and brilliance of Gods righteousness that surrounds her and protects her. Under her feet the moon which is illustrative of eternity, light, Gods faithfulness in His Son Jesus who is the greater light of the gospel age as Jesus being the light of the world that shines in darkness, but the darkness can not comprehend the light, Psalms 72:5-7; Isaiah 2:3-5; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Isaiah 30:26-33; John 1:1-5.

The woman is symbolic of Israel and the congregation of Gods people as she wears a crown of twelve stars which represents the twelve tribes of Israel that have repented of their arrogance as they felt they deserved Gods favor, but yet kept killing the prophets God sent to them, including the very Messiah they were waiting for. This is when the times of the Gentiles began as God went to them to take Himself a people that were humbled enough to receive salvation as God had mercy on them, Matthew 23:37-39; Acts 15:14; Romans 11:25-27.

Paul also warned the Gentiles against being lifted up in pride because they had been favored by God with salvation as he explained the blindness of Israel would not last forever as when they see the Gentiles now having favor in the Lord and being grafted into the branch of Israel they repent of their sin and turn back to God being once again found in His favor, Romans Chapter 11.

The true congregation of God can be symbolized here as a mother that has all here children gathered in one place for safety which in this case is under the wings of the almighty God, Psalms 91. She cries out like a woman in labor as the pain of her persecutions has become too great to bear as she waits to be delivered from her persecutors, 2 Timothy 4:18; 2 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.

The other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been thrown out of heaven yet. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8.
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Lost my chain of thoughts, thus address it as this...

Adam was called a son of God, he is a created being.
Thus, angels are created also ,thus sons of God.

Lucifer ? I got my info from Strong's #1966 Hebrew.

Rev.12:2
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Birth usually means a new age.
Isa.66:7-9
Before she travailed , she brought forth, before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? Saith the Lord, shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb?

God had a plan before this earth age.
Satan drew the third part of the stars of heaven, angels, and did cast them to the earth. Fallen angels...Rev.12:4

Jude 6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
As for when He chained them, some say, when Jesus Saith, get behind Me Satan.

He wanted to come down to devour the Christ seed which was to be born in flesh. Flesh age...

He tried to devour Him with Eve...
Another interruption, as soon as it was known that the seed would come through Abraham, the aim was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham.
The destruction of the chosen family by famine, Gen.50:20
The destruction of the male line in Israel, Ex.1:10
Herod sought the young child;s life.
Many attempts.

God intervenes though, amen.
Sends a flood and so forth...

As you can see there was a lot going on before this flesh age.

Blood had to be shed for remission of sin, thus God born in the flesh. Flesh age

Also wanted to note that the moon usually represents Lucifer.
Lunar, which brings, lunatics, lol.
 
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We are all sons of God and daughters of God through that of the Spirit of adoption where by we cry Abba Father, Romans 8:15. When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7. Morning stars in scripture are usually angels except where it depicts that of the brightness of Christ as in Rev 22:16 Jesus is called the bright morning star as in reference to his brightness as in an actual morning star. If you notice in Job 38:7 morning stars (angels) are spoken separate from the sons of God (men). If they were not separate and both mean angels then why did God use both phrases? In Job chapter 38 God was asking Job certain questions as He demanded answers from Job. Everything that God was asking him was before Jobs time when the angels (morning stars) sang praises to the Lord in heaven just as men worship the Lord on earth with shouts of joy from the beginning when men called on God, Genesis 4:6.

Notice in Matthew 22:30 where it is written "but are as the angels of God in heaven." This shows that angels could never marry.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).
But Angels appear as men all throughout the scriptures. It even says that the fallen angels left their first estate so could no longer be compared to as the Angels of heaven in that respect.

From what I understand, Dianne is correct. Sons of God are those direct creations. Adam was directly created by God, so he was called a son of God. We are not in this respect for we are the sons and daughters of men (and women!). But we have been given power to become sons of God.
 

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dianegcook and Edward

No problem and I apologize for my late response as I've been working on this all evening and also sorry for the length and I just saw Edwards reply.

I agree God's plan of salvation through Christ was before the foundation of the world, 1 Peter 1:18-20, as given to what is written in Genesis 6:3 God already knew man would fall so He designed the plan. I also agree with Jude 1:6 as these angels opposed God, but Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry, but only incarnate by God and not of themselves.

We have to read Jude 1:5-7 to understand these angels in everlasting chains left their first estate, which was being in the presence of God's glory as their habitation was the Spiritual realm of God. These are separate from the third Satan cast down to the earth these are the ones that came upon those in Sodom and Gomorrah causing men to fornicate and go after strange flesh meaning man laid with man. God has bound them from that time until the day of judgement so they can not be part of the third of the angels Satan cast down to the earth as those who follow Satan are still loose on the earth.

Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Their first estate was their allegiance to God in the heavenly realm, but left their own habitation being the heavenly realm of God as now they are reserved in everlasting chains so these are not the third that Satan cast down to earth as they are also referenced in 2 Peter 2:4

The rest is explained in post #19.

Adam and Eve had sons and daughters, but no one knows how many except for Cain, Abel and Seth as they are the only ones mentioned in scripture. Other then Cain we do not know how many of those children disobeyed God and were no longer called sons and daughters of God, but only known as sons and daughters of men as the generations grew.

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh (Galatians 5:17): yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years, Genesis 6:1-3.

Genesis 5 we read the generations beginning with Adam who had sons and daughters, but Seth is the only one mentioned by name being the son of Adam. It mentions throughout the generations they all had sons and daughters, but only give one specific name of the immediately family like Adam had Seth, Seth had Enos, Enos had Cainan etc. etc. It mentions nothing about all the other sons and daughters or if they were Godly people or fell away from God.

Now let's go to Genesis 6. Men began to multiply on earth and daughters were born unto them. The sons of God, which I believe are those men that are still obedient to God throughout the generations,

that they saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose, Genesis 6:1, 2.

Genesis 6:3 the Lord says His spirit will not always strive with man because he is flesh, which means man will turn away from God thus also causing their children to fall away.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants (some translations use the word Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Nephilim are not fallen angels, but just a name given for a giant who is usually 6' 9" like that of Goliath in 1 Samuel 17:4. Angels have no gender nor are they given in marriage (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry.

What makes one a giant is a hereditary pituitary disorder that causes acromegaly or gigantism. The parents can be of average height just like that of dwarfism. We see this in Goliath, 1 Samuel 17:4 and also Og in Deuteronomy 3:11 as they had to build a bed for Og that was 13.5' by 6"
 
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But Angels appear as men all throughout the scriptures. It even says that the fallen angels left their first estate so could no longer be compared to as the Angels of heaven in that respect.

From what I understand, Dianne is correct. Sons of God are those direct creations. Adam was directly created by God, so he was called a son of God. We are not in this respect for we are the sons and daughters of men (and women!). But we have been given power to become sons of God.
I just want to point out only the Son of God with the "S" being capitalized is Jesus, not angels, but angels are also called sons of God just like man is also called the son of God with a little "s".

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry, but only incarnate by God and not of themselves.

The rest is explained in post #19.
 

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