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Coronavirus Pandemic, why does God allow it

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What is the answer for Christians as they see the death and destruction spreading around the world. As looks like this is going to be repeated in the fall, it will become the new normal...
It is the churches' fault for not putting their trust in God (Matthew 16:18-19, Mark 16:17-18).
 

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What is the answer for Christians as they see the death and destruction spreading around the world. As looks like this is going to be repeated in the fall, it will become the new normal...

"The Coronavirus Will Return In The Fall...

Topline: Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at a White House press briefing Monday he anticipates the coronavirus will come back in another wave later this year—but added the U.S. will be much better prepared to deal with another outbreak, if it happens, in the fall.
  • Medical experts have been warning the coronavirus could be cyclical, meaning it could come back in the fall even if its spread is halted in the next few months.
  • Fauci said he “anticipates” such an event happening in the U.S. “because of the degree of transmissibility” and the fact that countries in the Southern Hemisphere are seeing more cases as they transition into their winter season.
  • He added an outbreak in the fall would be a “totally different ballgame” because the country’s increased ability to test, identify and isolate those who are infected will be “orders of magnitude better than what it was just a couple of months ago.”
  • Clinical trials are also underway for a number of treatments and Fauci hopes one or more of them will be available
  • Fauci also raised the possibility of a vaccine being available next season under an emergency use “if we start seeing an efficacy signal” in any one of the multiple candidate vaccines.
  • Other medical experts have warned that if there is a dip in cases during the summer months, the U.S. needs to stock up on ventilators and other supplies to handle another wave."...The Coronavirus Will Return In The Fall, Fauci Predicts, But The U.S. Will Be Better Prepared
Coronavirus Pandemic, why does God allow it
The answer is simple: at this time it is the devil's world. God expects the believers to stop it with prayer.
 

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Coronavirus Pandemic, why does God allow it
The answer is simple: at this time it is the devil's world. God expects the believers to stop it with prayer.
Prayer only, is not enough (James 1:6-8, James 5:16).
 
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I believe the virus is %100 fake. I believe it's a tool being used to further Satan's end time plans to establish a global government/totalitarian dictatorship that will crown the coming Antichrist as its king.
In order to pull off a hoax of that magnitude, there would have to be an "all in" of gargantuan proportions. Not happening. There is an incredulous coordinated campaign to invalidate HCQ as a primary protocol for COVID-19. Even that widespread falsehood is collapsing under the weight of its own deceit. No way the entire worldwide COVID-19 could survive scrutinity as a deception.
 

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In order to pull off a hoax of that magnitude, there would have to be an "all in" of gargantuan proportions. Not happening. There is an incredulous coordinated campaign to invalidate HCQ as a primary protocol for COVID-19. Even that widespread falsehood is collapsing under the weight of its own deceit. No way the entire worldwide COVID-19 could survive scrutinity as a deception.
Brazilian people can't take the HCQ...it causes all kinds of heart rythm problems.
And it doesn't work as effectively as originally claimed. The French study has been proven to be junk science. The blind studies are coming in and showing that it flat out doesn't work.

It had a nice placebo effect on a few...but that's all.
 
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Brazilian people can't take the HCQ...it causes all kinds of heart rythm problems.
And it doesn't work as effectively as originally claimed. The French study has been proven to be junk science. The blind studies are coming in and showing that it flat out doesn't work.

It had a nice placebo effect on a few...but that's all.
The Brazilians gave doses that would give anyone heart problems. The doses were way too strong reflecting their third world methodology. The French study was good, it was the reporting that is bogus. Like a few doctors on Youtube said, all these people in America treating HCQ like a political football instead of using good science, are going to wind up being responsible for thousands of deaths.
 

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The Brazilians gave doses that would give anyone heart problems. The doses were way too strong reflecting their third world methodology. The French study was good, it was the reporting that is bogus. Like a few doctors on Youtube said, all these people in America treating HCQ like a political football instead of using good science, are going to wind up being responsible for thousands of deaths.
Brazil is a location that regularly sees yellow fever...they have a large supply on hand and are accustomed to using it.
They also have dengue fever and zitka virus...
Lots of mosquitoes there. There's no way to drain the swamps in a tropical rainforest.

But they stopped the trial when, for them, it was causing more problems than the virus did.

Brazil is a unique place...a daughter is in the middle of leading a DNA genetic trials of new crops and the mom lives in a literal shack with chickens and barely has a 20amp Electrical service.
The high education levels doing well and extreme poverty and neither side budging from what lifestyle they live.
 
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"In order to pull off a hoax of that magnitude, there would have to be an "all in" of gargantuan proportions. "

For those with spiritual discernment and can see how many in the world have the antichrist spirit, they can see that this is the truth. The wicked outnumber the righteous and the lost 95:5 (by my rough estimation).
 

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This isn't a man created virus...none of the markers of lab creation are present.
That isn't saying that it wasn't being played with and it got loose.

Two completely different scenarios.
I tend to believe that someone found it, was playing with it, and due to a lack of oversight it got loose .
What evidence do you have for that position, John?
 

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What evidence do you have for that position, John?
The people who study such things said it wasn't a manufactured virus...

And truly... you wouldn't need to. There are plenty of viruses to choose from that are naturally occurring. (Billions of them) All you would need to do is isolate one, grow it up, and have an accident.
Oversight can be a good thing...safety protocols cost a lot of money...and cheap research can be ultimately more expensive than you want.
 

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"In order to pull off a hoax of that magnitude, there would have to be an "all in" of gargantuan proportions. "

For those with spiritual discernment and can see how many in the world have the antichrist spirit, they can see that this is the truth. The wicked outnumber the righteous and the lost 95:5 (by my rough estimation).
I agree there is but a remnant of "Christians" obedient to the Lord. But there are just too many testimonies from patients and doctors concerning COVID-19 to pull off this as a world wide hoax(believe me, I too entertained conspiracy ideas about this for a short time). What I do believe is a conspiracy, is the false reporting of HCQ. I am currently contacting civil rights groups in Brazil to stop what looks to be a governmental attempt at racial/economic/societal genocide by a falsified "study" on the efficacy of HCQ to justify withholding it from the populace in order to eliminate the poor. Brazil is expected to become a massive hot spot and its government response was "so what". The psychopaths are loose and there is seemingly nothing to stop them except exposure.
 

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I agree there is but a remnant of "Christians" obedient to the Lord. But there are just too many testimonies from patients and doctors concerning COVID-19 to pull off this as a world wide hoax(believe me, I too entertained conspiracy ideas about this for a short time). What I do believe is a conspiracy, is the false reporting of HCQ. I am currently contacting civil rights groups in Brazil to stop what looks to be a governmental attempt at racial/economic/societal genocide by a falsified "study" on the efficacy of HCQ to justify withholding it from the populace in order to eliminate the poor. Brazil is expected to become a massive hot spot and its government response was "so what". The psychopaths are loose and there is seemingly nothing to stop them except exposure.
There is no socialized medicine in Brazil and few people have insurance.

Doctors get paid after care is administered... meaning that the patient has to survive in order for doctors to get paid. Meaning that if HCQ was effective they would hand it out like candy. But it's poisoning the Brazilian people because of genetics...I've and others have talked about this at length including personal testimony of someone who has taken this drug...

You can believe what you want but the truth is that this drug is not the cure you are claiming.

If you research the history of Tamiflu... you will find that the real cure is now known (being kept secret) and they are in the final stages of securing the raw materials to make the real cure. (Just like they did with Tamiflu)

Once the US has their own stockpile then it will be released on the mass market overseas.
China will be the last one to get this drug...allies/critical friends will be first.
 

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There is no socialized medicine in Brazil and few people have insurance.

Doctors get paid after care is administered... meaning that the patient has to survive in order for doctors to get paid. Meaning that if HCQ was effective they would hand it out like candy. But it's poisoning the Brazilian people because of genetics...I've and others have talked about this at length including personal testimony of someone who has taken this drug...

You can believe what you want but the truth is that this drug is not the cure you are claiming.

If you research the history of Tamiflu... you will find that the real cure is now known (being kept secret) and they are in the final stages of securing the raw materials to make the real cure. (Just like they did with Tamiflu)

Once the US has their own stockpile then it will be released on the mass market overseas.
China will be the last one to get this drug...allies/critical friends will be first.
having experienced the quinine issue of that. I dont doubt it has problems.
 

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I was thinking about you when I said it.
dreams, for me. never anything more but I was so used to them as I had them. just more intense overseas. I have dreamt of working fleet, to the very smells, sounds and taste of food. while my ptsd related dreams can be intense. they have seldom been that way.
 

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Right now they are concerned about China stealing the technology...they might have stopped it or, like they did with Tamiflu, made the information a moot point.
 

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Right now they are concerned about China stealing the technology...they might have stopped it or, like they did with Tamiflu, made the information a moot point.
I do hope we in some way at least bring back manufacturing . this should be a lesson. cheaper is a trade off. lives have been lost and forever changed over this. china has shown its not trustworthy,incompentent. they made a mistake and lied to cover it up.
 
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There is no socialized medicine in Brazil and few people have insurance.

Doctors get paid after care is administered... meaning that the patient has to survive in order for doctors to get paid. Meaning that if HCQ was effective they would hand it out like candy. But it's poisoning the Brazilian people because of genetics...I've and others have talked about this at length including personal testimony of someone who has taken this drug...

You can believe what you want but the truth is that this drug is not the cure you are claiming.

If you research the history of Tamiflu... you will find that the real cure is now known (being kept secret) and they are in the final stages of securing the raw materials to make the real cure. (Just like they did with Tamiflu)

Once the US has their own stockpile then it will be released on the mass market overseas.
China will be the last one to get this drug...allies/critical friends will be first.
There are way too many doctors, patients and countries who say otherwise for me to buy into your opinion.
 

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