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Did Paul water baptize?

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Yes, Paul did baptize some into water in his early ministry. In fact, Paul himself was water baptized by Ananias in Acts 9:18. Paul also circumcised Timothy (Acts 16:3), performed vows and head shavings (Acts 18:18), kept feasts (Acts 18:21), and even raises a man from the dead (Acts 20:10).

What we know is that water baptism did not begin at Paul. It had been in operation since the Mosaic Law and during Jesus’ earthly ministry and through Pentecost.

Secondly, Paul did not add anything to water baptism in meaning or in symbolism (see question on Romans 6:3-4).

Thirdly, Paul was given a dispensation of God that was ‘kept secret since the world began’ and so could not be the same message associated with water baptism (Rom 16:25, 1 Cor 9:17, Gal 1:11-12).

Lastly, Paul was eventually instructed by Christ upon further revelation not to baptize as is evident from 1 Corinthians 1:17.

“For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” – 1 Corinthians 1:17

Paul’s Multiple Revelations
It would be wrong to think that Paul received his dispensational information all at one appearance of Christ. At the very time of Paul’s first appearance Jesus left the door open to further revelations and instructions:

“And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do” – Acts 9:6

Also, in 2 Corinthians 12:1 Paul declares that he ‘WILL COME to visions and revelations of the Lord.”

Six verses later he mentions that he has already received an ‘abundance of the revelations’ (2 Cor 12:7).

In Paul’s retelling of his conversion on the road to Damascus in Acts 9, he describes Jesus’ purpose for him in containing multiple revelations:

“But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, AND OF THOSE THINGS IN THE WHICH I WILL APPEAR UNTO THEE ” [emphasis added] – Acts 26:16

It is evident that Paul received multiple revelations of further instructions for this dispensation as his ministry progressed.

Paul and the Corinthians
It was in Acts 18:8 that Paul was ministering in Corinth and Crispis, the chief ruler of the synagogue and was baptized by Paul.

“And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized. ” – Acts 18:8

That this baptism was water baptism is evident from Paul’s discussion of the event in 1 Corinthians 1.

Nevertheless, the next verse in Acts 18 describes that right after this joyous occasion of many in Corinth believing Jesus appears to Paul.

“Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision…” – Acts 18:9

It has already been established that Jesus spoke to Paul often in revelations for further instruction and encouragement. In this revelation, no mention of water baptism is recorded.

However, that Jesus spoke to Paul about water baptism after Acts 18 is evident from the letter Paul wrote later to the very Corinthians that were baptized.

“I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For CHRIST SENT ME NOT TO BAPTIZE, BUT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. ” [emphasis added] – 1 Corinthians 1:14-17

Paul spent a year and a half teaching the Corinthians face to face and then later writes them thanking God that he did not baptize any of them except Crispus and Gaius and a few others.

Jesus’ Further Revelations
Paul states that he was sent not to baptize but to preach the gospel. It is then obvious that the gospel that Jesus told Paul to preach did NOT contain baptism.

This is contrary to the gospel of the kingdom taught by John the Baptist, Jesus (on earth), and Peter at Pentecost which all contained water baptism for the remission of sins.

Rather, Paul’s gospel was without water baptism but a spiritual baptism into Christ (1 Cor 12:13, Rom 6:3-4).

Why then did Paul baptize the Corinthians? The most plausible explanation is that it was done in ignorance which was subsequently remedied by further revelation and instructions of Jesus Christ about the clarity of his gospel.

What we can know now reading back through Paul’s experience with the Corinthians that just as Paul was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel, so we are sent as followers of Paul.

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. ” – 1 Corinthians 11:1

By Justin Johnson - www.graceambassadors.com
 
Paul states that he was sent not to baptize but to preach the gospel. It is then obvious that the gospel that Jesus told Paul to preach did NOT contain baptism.

Paul Baptized, but his primary calling was to preach the Gospel.

The Gospel message is a message of repentance which is performed by Baptism.

Paul did not preach "another' Gospel that was different than Jesus.


JLB
 
Paul did not preach "another' Gospel that was different than Jesus.
JLB
Sure he did. Gospel of the kingdom and the gospel of the Grace of God are 2 different gospels.

You cannot honestly say that what Jesus taught in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John is the exact same as What Paul taught in Romans-Philemon. Even the bible proves this thinking wrong.
 
Paul Baptized, but his primary calling was to preach the Gospel.

The Gospel message is a message of repentance which is performed by Baptism.

Paul did not preach "another' Gospel that was different than Jesus.


JLB
Yes.
 
Sure he did. Gospel of the kingdom and the gospel of the Grace of God are 2 different gospels.

You cannot honestly say that what Jesus taught in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John is the exact same as What Paul taught in Romans-Philemon. Even the bible proves this thinking wrong.


Exact same Gospel.

The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is the Grace of God through Jesus Christ and His sacrifice of the cross.

JLB
 
What we know is that water baptism did not begin at Paul. It had been in operation since the Mosaic Law and during Jesus’ earthly ministry and through Pentecost.
We need to be clear that the baptism of Jewish proselytes, the baptism of John the Baptist, and Christian baptism after Pentecost were quite different in their significance. And Paul did baptize a few believers, but he left water baptism primarily to his associates.

Also, there is just ONE Gospel, as already shown clearly from Scripture, and it does no one any good to claim there are multiple Gospels. However, the enemies of the Gospel started bringing in "another Gospel" soon after the true Gospel was proclaimed.
 
Yes, Paul did baptize some into water in his early ministry. In fact, Paul himself was water baptized by Ananias in Acts 9:18. Paul also circumcised Timothy (Acts 16:3), performed vows and head shavings (Acts 18:18), kept feasts (Acts 18:21), and even raises a man from the dead (Acts 20:10).

What we know is that water baptism did not begin at Paul. It had been in operation since the Mosaic Law and during Jesus’ earthly ministry and through Pentecost.

Secondly, Paul did not add anything to water baptism in meaning or in symbolism (see question on Romans 6:3-4).

Thirdly, Paul was given a dispensation of God that was ‘kept secret since the world began’ and so could not be the same message associated with water baptism (Rom 16:25, 1 Cor 9:17, Gal 1:11-12).

Lastly, Paul was eventually instructed by Christ upon further revelation not to baptize as is evident from 1 Corinthians 1:17.

“For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” – 1 Corinthians 1:17

Paul’s Multiple Revelations
It would be wrong to think that Paul received his dispensational information all at one appearance of Christ. At the very time of Paul’s first appearance Jesus left the door open to further revelations and instructions:

“And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do” – Acts 9:6

Also, in 2 Corinthians 12:1 Paul declares that he ‘WILL COME to visions and revelations of the Lord.”

Six verses later he mentions that he has already received an ‘abundance of the revelations’ (2 Cor 12:7).

In Paul’s retelling of his conversion on the road to Damascus in Acts 9, he describes Jesus’ purpose for him in containing multiple revelations:

“But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, AND OF THOSE THINGS IN THE WHICH I WILL APPEAR UNTO THEE ” [emphasis added] – Acts 26:16

It is evident that Paul received multiple revelations of further instructions for this dispensation as his ministry progressed.

Paul and the Corinthians
It was in Acts 18:8 that Paul was ministering in Corinth and Crispis, the chief ruler of the synagogue and was baptized by Paul.

“And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized. ” – Acts 18:8

That this baptism was water baptism is evident from Paul’s discussion of the event in 1 Corinthians 1.

Nevertheless, the next verse in Acts 18 describes that right after this joyous occasion of many in Corinth believing Jesus appears to Paul.

“Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision…” – Acts 18:9

It has already been established that Jesus spoke to Paul often in revelations for further instruction and encouragement. In this revelation, no mention of water baptism is recorded.

However, that Jesus spoke to Paul about water baptism after Acts 18 is evident from the letter Paul wrote later to the very Corinthians that were baptized.

“I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For CHRIST SENT ME NOT TO BAPTIZE, BUT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. ” [emphasis added] – 1 Corinthians 1:14-17

Paul spent a year and a half teaching the Corinthians face to face and then later writes them thanking God that he did not baptize any of them except Crispus and Gaius and a few others.

Jesus’ Further Revelations
Paul states that he was sent not to baptize but to preach the gospel. It is then obvious that the gospel that Jesus told Paul to preach did NOT contain baptism.

This is contrary to the gospel of the kingdom taught by John the Baptist, Jesus (on earth), and Peter at Pentecost which all contained water baptism for the remission of sins.

Rather, Paul’s gospel was without water baptism but a spiritual baptism into Christ (1 Cor 12:13, Rom 6:3-4).

Why then did Paul baptize the Corinthians? The most plausible explanation is that it was done in ignorance which was subsequently remedied by further revelation and instructions of Jesus Christ about the clarity of his gospel.

What we can know now reading back through Paul’s experience with the Corinthians that just as Paul was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel, so we are sent as followers of Paul.

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. ” – 1 Corinthians 11:1

By Justin Johnson - www.graceambassadors.com


He makes the logical fallacy of the argument from silence. Just because Paul wasn't sent to baptize doesn't mean that water baptism isn't necessary.
 
He makes the logical fallacy of the argument from silence. Just because Paul wasn't sent to baptize doesn't mean that water baptism isn't necessary.
The question is: necessary for…what? Salvation? believer obedience? What?

A lot of things are necessary to the Christian life, yet most of them are not necessary for salvation.
 
Sure he did. Gospel of the kingdom and the gospel of the Grace of God are 2 different gospels.

You cannot honestly say that what Jesus taught in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John is the exact same as What Paul taught in Romans-Philemon. Even the bible proves this thinking wrong.

It's just a further revelation of the same Gospel. It's obvious that Jesus didn't preach the death burial and resurrection, since He was alive. However, Paul also said,

KJV Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: (Act 26:22 KJV)

Moses and the prophets spoke of the coming kingdom. Jesus preached the kingdom of God as did the other apostles, and as did Paul.

19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
20 Howbeit, as the disciples stood round about him, he rose up, and came into the city: and the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe.
21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, {had taught many: Gr. had made many disciples}
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. (Act 14:19-22 KJV)

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.
8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. (Act 19:6-8 KJV)

16 For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost... 25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more. (Act 20:25 KJV)

17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.
18 Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of death in me.
19 But when the Jews spake against it, I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of.
20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.
21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.
22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. (Act 28:17-23 KJV)

30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
(Act 28:30-31 KJV)

Paul preached the kingdom of God.
 
You cannot honestly say that what Jesus taught in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John is the exact same as What Paul taught in Romans-Philemon. Even the bible proves this thinking wrong.
veryberry,
There is such a thing as "progressive revelation". At the same time, all you have to do is read the third chapter of John's Gospel to understand that there is only one Gospel, and verses 14-18 sum it up nicely. That is what the apostles preached, and that is what we are to preach today.
 
We need to be clear that the baptism of Jewish proselytes, the baptism of John the Baptist, and Christian baptism after Pentecost were quite different in their significance.

Water Baptism under John the Baptist or jesus or Paul are all the same and have the same significance: REPENTANCE.

Identifying with the likeness of His death, that we may be partakers of the life of His through resurrection, at His Coming.


JLB
 
Water Baptism under John the Baptist or jesus or Paul are all the same and have the same significance: REPENTANCE.
Christian baptism cannot be the same as the other two baptisms for several reasons:

1. Christian baptism signifies BOTH repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). This is not true for the other baptisms.
2. Christian baptism follows the receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit (the gift of eternal life) (Acts 10:44-48). This is not true for the other baptisms.
3. Christian baptism follows a public testimony to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 8:35-38; Rom 10:8,9). This is not true for the other baptisms.
4. Christian baptism (by immersion) is administered in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit (Mt 28:18-20). This is not true for the other baptisms.
5. Finally, as you have noted, Christian baptism is “Identifying with the likeness of His death, that we may be partakers of the life of His through resurrection, at His Coming” (Rom 6:3-6). This is not true for the other baptisms.
 
Christian baptism cannot be the same as the other two baptisms for several reasons:

1. Christian baptism signifies BOTH repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). This is not true for the other baptisms.
2. Christian baptism follows the receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit (the gift of eternal life) (Acts 10:44-48). This is not true for the other baptisms.
3. Christian baptism follows a public testimony to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 8:35-38; Rom 10:8,9). This is not true for the other baptisms.
4. Christian baptism (by immersion) is administered in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit (Mt 28:18-20). This is not true for the other baptisms.
5. Finally, as you have noted, Christian baptism is “Identifying with the likeness of His death, that we may be partakers of the life of His through resurrection, at His Coming” (Rom 6:3-6). This is not true for the other baptisms.

John's Baptism was a baptism of repentance and faith in Christ.

Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus." Acts 19:4


John's Baptism was from heaven and pointed people to Christ.

Baptism signifies repentance toward God through faith in Christ, when John did it, when Jesus or His disciples did it, or when Paul did it, or when your Pastor did it.

It signifies the same thing.

One Baptism: Three expressions

Baptized into Christ

Baptized in Water

Baptized in the Holy Spirit.


JLB
 
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