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This morning I woke up hearing about the veil that separates natural man from God. All week, my thoughts have been going back to the "veil" that exists between man and God, really between man's soul and his spirit or the entire spirit realm. Personally, I am thinking this may also be the same veil or "firmament" in Genesis 1:6.

This prompted me to start digging as this always leads to deeper understanding. I found some pretty eye opening scriptures but to fully benefit from them, one should also study and understand the Old Covenant Tabernacle and sacrificial system. Unless we know what that was all about (type or pointer of the true heavenly system) I don't believe we will understand the magnitude of the amazing one time for all sacrifice of Christ. Hebrews 10:12, 1 Peter 3:18

Have you ever pondered these verses and what they are saying? To me, they are absolutely amazing.

Leviticus 16:15 "Then he shall slaughter the goat of the sin offering which is for the people, and bring its blood inside the veil and do with its blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and in front of the mercy seat.

This was done by the high priest once a year under the old system of law by a man with sin. Because he was sinful himself it had to be repeated over and over. According to Hebrews 10:1 (below), the system of law and sacrifices was not the real and true system, but merely a shadow of the truth which is in Heaven or the realm of the Spirit.

Hebrews 10:1 (NASB) For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things

Hebrews 10:1 and 10:4 tell us there is a big problem with the old system of law and sacrifices.

Hebrews 10:1 (NASB) For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near

Hebrews 10:4 (ESV) For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins

Do you see what the author of Hebrews is saying is wrong with the Old Covenant of Law? There is a new and better way coming, but it was not yet disclosed.

Hebrews 9:8
The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing,

God's answer coming up.

Romans 8:3
(NIV) For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh

Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;


1 John 2:2 (NIV) He
is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world

Hebrews 9:12
(NASB) and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption

Those are some POWERFUL verses to meditate on and wait for Christ to reveal to us.
Look at Hebrews 9:12 above. Did you see it says "eternal" redemption? What is an "eternal" redemption?


It also made me ask myself "Where does man exist in his natural soulish state?" Is he eternal or mortal? I found some more verses on what else happened at the cross.

Luke 23:45 (NKJV) Then the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in two

Hebrews 10:20 (ESV) by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain (veil), that is, through his flesh

Ephesians 2:11-12 (NIV) Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.

Ephesians 2:14 (NIV) For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility

Ephesians 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.

Hebrews 10:19-20 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,

Hebrews 10:21-22 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.


Hebrews 6:19 This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil,


This is so beautiful the amazing picture that I see. What do you see?

Kicked
 
This is some great scriptural and thematic analysis for dwelling upon. One thing that I personally didn't really realize, until the last year or so, was that rather than Christ being crucified for our sins on the day of atonement on the 10th of Tishri (the seventh month), which was indeed a shadow of Christ's atonement, he yet was instead crucified almost on the polar opposite date on the calendar on the 14th of Nisan (only 4 days short of being exactly 6 months apart), which is Passover.

There were two monumental Jewish historical events that were commemorated annually in the OT which both prefigured Christ's sacrifice, and they were almost 6 months apart from one another: Passover and the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). An interesting question to ponder on, which I do not think I have the full answer for myself is: "Why did God ordain for Christ to die on Passover instead of the Day of Atonement?".

The only real thought I had, which contributed to a subtheme that I saw running throughout Hebrews, was how DIFFERENT Christ's sacrifice and priesthood were from the Israelite Priesthood. The Aaronic Kohenim were from Levi, while Jesus was from Judah. Jesus' foreshadow was seen best in Melchizedek, while the Kohanim priesthood was modeled on Aaron. Jesus was perfect, Aaron and his descendants were not. The Aaronic Priesthood atoned for sins on Yom Kippur, but Jesus atoned for sins on the Passover. Jesus' sacrifice was not actually a continuation (nor final installment) of the earthly Temple sacrifice, it was something other, perfect, and satisfying to God. I never realized how different Christ's sacrifice was until I studied the aspect of him as High Priest.

Just some of my own reflections.

God bless,
Josh
 
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This is some great scriptural and thematic analysis for dwelling upon. One thing that I personally didn't really realize, until the last year or so, was that rather than Christ being crucified for our sins on the day of atonement on the 10th of Tishri (the seventh month), which was indeed a shadow of Christ's atonement, he yet was instead crucified almost on the polar opposite date on the calendar on the 14th of Nisan (only 4 days short of being exactly 6 months apart), which is Passover.

There were two monumental Jewish historical events that were commemorated annually in the OT which both prefigured Christ's sacrifice, and they were almost 6 months apart from one another: Passover and the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). An interesting question to ponder on, which I do not think I have the full answer for myself is: "Why did God ordain for Christ to die on Passover instead of the Day of Atonement?".

The only real thought I had, which contributed to a subtheme that I saw running throughout Hebrews, was how DIFFERENT Christ's sacrifice and priesthood were from the Israelite Priesthood. The Aaronic Kohenim were from Levi, while Jesus was from Judah. Jesus' foreshadow was seen best in Melchizedek, while the Kohanim priesthood was modeled on Aaron. Jesus was perfect, Aaron and his descendants were not. The Aaronic Priesthood atoned for sins on Yom Kippur, but Jesus atoned for sins on the Passover. Jesus' sacrifice was not actually a continuation (nor final installment) of the earthly Temple sacrifice, it was something other, perfect, and satisfying to God. I never realized how different Christ's sacrifice was until I studied the aspect of him as High Priest.

Just some of my own reflections.

God bless,
Josh

That is certainly an interesting question. When I see the Passover sacrifice of Christ, I think back to the deliverance from Egypt where the blood of the passover sacrifice was spread upon the door posts so that the angel of death would pass them by. So to are those who are in Christ, for through our Faith the angel of death passes by. But to contrast the idea of the sacrifice being on the Day of Atonement, then one would have to see that sacrifice as a fulfillment of a requirement payed in debt. So what does that say about what happened at the cross? Is the blood of Christ the atonement for the debt owed on your sins? Or was the blood of Christ the sealing of his covenant with man, where we walk in his kingdom by Faith in the Spirit of Christ and by the Grace of the Lord, believing that through Christ the angel of death must pass by.
 
This is some great scriptural and thematic analysis for dwelling upon. One thing that I personally didn't really realize, until the last year or so, was that rather than Christ being crucified for our sins on the day of atonement on the 10th of Tishri (the seventh month), which was indeed a shadow of Christ's atonement, he yet was instead crucified almost on the polar opposite date on the calendar on the 14th of Nisan (only 4 days short of being exactly 6 months apart), which is Passover.

There were two monumental Jewish historical events that were commemorated annually in the OT which both prefigured Christ's sacrifice, and they were almost 6 months apart from one another: Passover and the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). An interesting question to ponder on, which I do not think I have the full answer for myself is: "Why did God ordain for Christ to die on Passover instead of the Day of Atonement?".

The only real thought I had, which contributed to a subtheme that I saw running throughout Hebrews, was how DIFFERENT Christ's sacrifice and priesthood were from the Israelite Priesthood. The Aaronic Kohenim were from Levi, while Jesus was from Judah. Jesus' foreshadow was seen best in Melchizedek, while the Kohanim priesthood was modeled on Aaron. Jesus was perfect, Aaron and his descendants were not. The Aaronic Priesthood atoned for sins on Yom Kippur, but Jesus atoned for sins on the Passover. Jesus' sacrifice was not actually a continuation (nor final installment) of the earthly Temple sacrifice, it was something other, perfect, and satisfying to God. I never realized how different Christ's sacrifice was until I studied the aspect of him as High Priest.

Just some of my own reflections.

God bless,
Josh

Wow, those are great points. Thanks for sharing.
 
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