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Do You Go to Church?
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King Dan of Great the 1st
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Jesus said the kingdom of God is within you. And Paul said you are the temple and God dwells within you.
So, according to Christianities most trusted source , going to a church builing has nothing to do with individuals fellowship with God. It's just believers who like to have fellowship with one another and sing and pray together that is also a teaching, but it could be 2 people or 1000 people. Whatever. No one needs to go to church to be saved or have fellowship with God.
So, according to Christianities most trusted source , going to a church builing has nothing to do with individuals fellowship with God. It's just believers who like to have fellowship with one another and sing and pray together that is also a teaching, but it could be 2 people or 1000 people. Whatever. No one needs to go to church to be saved or have fellowship with God.
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King Dan of Great the 1st
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Some devoted followers of Christ probably go to megachurches, they just sing and have a good time then go home. You cannot genealise a church because you never know who is there. If 1000 people are crooked and one is devoted then cannot say the church is crooked because you would be calling one of Jesus diciples crooked.
The politics of the church might be crooked.
The politics of the church might be crooked.
I don't think anyone has suggested that one must be a regular church goer to be saved. What I'm hearing when people emphasize that it is not required what immediately comes to my mind is that maybe the emphasis is placed there in order to justify our own guilt for not taking an active part in the Holy Church of Jesus. We are essentially saying to ourselves, "Jesus can save me even if I don't regularly meet with His people so that's good enough."
Except for the guilt part that's pretty much correct. I think our biggest differences lie where it says on your profile that you are a Lutheran and I am a Methodist and Methodists for the most part aren't church crazy. The way my church is is that they love seeing you when you're there, but nobody makes a big fuss over it when you're not and nobody questions it.
ezra
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never in my life have a seen a subject create such division as going to church.. i have read every type excuse and some new ones on why people dont go to church.from boring to false doctrine etc.. acts 5:42 And daily in the temple and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. -a building save space i move to acts 11
19 Now those who had been scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose on account of Stephen, traveled as far as Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, preaching the Word to none but unto the Jews only.
20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who, when they had come to Antioch, spoke unto the Greeks, preaching the Lord Jesus.
21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned unto the Lord.
22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem, and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
23 And when he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad and exhorted them all that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord,
24 for he was a good man and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith. And many people were added unto the Lord.
25 Then Barnabas departed to Tarsus to seek out Saul;
26 and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28 And one of them named Agabus stood up, and signified by the Spirit that there would be a great dearth throughout all the world, which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren who dwelt in Judea.
30 This also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.
going to church is important in fact the real problem is US .we simply go nod a agreement with the preacher /maybe amen..get nothing out of Church attendance
Matthew 13:55-58 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary and his brethren James and Joseph, and Simon and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? From whence then hath this man all these things?”
57 And they were offended at Him. But Jesus said unto them, “A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country and in his own house.”
58 And He did not many mighty works there, because of their unbelief. ( they was not interested } there lies the problem simply not interested we want a social center instead of a worship center . guess i stirred enough up
19 Now those who had been scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose on account of Stephen, traveled as far as Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, preaching the Word to none but unto the Jews only.
20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who, when they had come to Antioch, spoke unto the Greeks, preaching the Lord Jesus.
21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned unto the Lord.
22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem, and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
23 And when he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad and exhorted them all that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord,
24 for he was a good man and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith. And many people were added unto the Lord.
25 Then Barnabas departed to Tarsus to seek out Saul;
26 and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28 And one of them named Agabus stood up, and signified by the Spirit that there would be a great dearth throughout all the world, which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren who dwelt in Judea.
30 This also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.
going to church is important in fact the real problem is US .we simply go nod a agreement with the preacher /maybe amen..get nothing out of Church attendance
Matthew 13:55-58 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary and his brethren James and Joseph, and Simon and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? From whence then hath this man all these things?”
57 And they were offended at Him. But Jesus said unto them, “A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country and in his own house.”
58 And He did not many mighty works there, because of their unbelief. ( they was not interested } there lies the problem simply not interested we want a social center instead of a worship center . guess i stirred enough up
stovebolts
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stovebolts
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If we put our focus and emphasis on proving another wrong and proving we are right, then the division is always present.never in my life have a seen a subject create such division as going to church.. i have read every type excuse and some new ones on why people dont go to church.from boring to false doctrine etc.. acts 5:42 And daily in the temple and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. -a building save space i move to acts 11
19 Now those who had been scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose on account of Stephen, traveled as far as Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, preaching the Word to none but unto the Jews only.
20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who, when they had come to Antioch, spoke unto the Greeks, preaching the Lord Jesus.
21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned unto the Lord.
22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem, and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.
23 And when he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad and exhorted them all that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord,
24 for he was a good man and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith. And many people were added unto the Lord.
25 Then Barnabas departed to Tarsus to seek out Saul;
26 and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28 And one of them named Agabus stood up, and signified by the Spirit that there would be a great dearth throughout all the world, which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren who dwelt in Judea.
30 This also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.
going to church is important in fact the real problem is US .we simply go nod a agreement with the preacher /maybe amen..get nothing out of Church attendance
Matthew 13:55-58 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary and his brethren James and Joseph, and Simon and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? From whence then hath this man all these things?”
57 And they were offended at Him. But Jesus said unto them, “A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country and in his own house.”
58 And He did not many mighty works there, because of their unbelief. ( they was not interested } there lies the problem simply not interested we want a social center instead of a worship center . guess i stirred enough up
When we seek reconciliation, we travel the road together. Any good church will walk that road with you, and even carry you or pick you up while being compassionate to the wounds incurred by the fall.
A bad church only accepts those who are standing, and those who fall were never part of the church to begin with.
ezra
Member
who is trying to prove anything ..for some reason in this forum using attending church is like saying a cuss word in front of our mom.. facts are probably %80 of all conversions takes place in a church building .microwave generation 2 mins alter done..
stovebolts
Member
Are you trying to prove something?
ezra
Member
are you ? i dont have to prove nothing the day of Pentecost they was assembled And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. the Bible speaks for it self ..if my 2 cents on this is not welcome fell free to delete it
Let's just get this straight out in the open here. Like it or not we're ALL guilty of trying to prove something from time to time. I even straight out admitted that I did and felt ashamed of myself for doing so.
Book Keeper
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I think tensions within this thread are running a little high; may I suggest we reflect on the following passage?
Let's bring decorum back to this thread; let's agree to disagree and move forwards. It is clear there are many opposing opinions regarding this subject; perhaps now is a good time to bow out before tensions erupt.
Proverbs 15:18
A hot-tempered person stirs up conflict, but the one who is patient calms a quarrel.
Let's bring decorum back to this thread; let's agree to disagree and move forwards. It is clear there are many opposing opinions regarding this subject; perhaps now is a good time to bow out before tensions erupt.
Proverbs 15:18
A hot-tempered person stirs up conflict, but the one who is patient calms a quarrel.
stovebolts
Member
Lol, chill. Its all good. You had mentioned division... I simply stated my observation.
We will seek what we are looking to find. If we seek differences, we will create division. If we seek reconciliation, we dont let our differences divide us.
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stovebolts
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Im innocent I tell you, innocent!
Lol, that's from some movie. I don't remember which one, but it was funny.
You know what? You can go ahead and close this thread if you want to. I really didn't mean to cause an argument or for everybody to go around being cross with each other.
JohnDB and I pick on each other all the time, but that's just a bit different because we always know that we're just messing around and I love that little annoying git and he knows it too. 
(He might be way older than me but I still fight with him like he's my brother from another mother. 
)
And I think that you might have been quoting Waddlesworth from 102 Dalmatians which is a highly underrated movie imo. 
I would not say Methodist aren't church crazy. I use to go to a Methodist church years ago and they were very active and if you missed going the were very concerned. If your church is not concerned about the congregation then I think I would search out another one that is concerned.
It doesn't matter what denomination or non-denomination you go to, but it is up to you to be involved in one that you feel led to be a part of. It's called putting yourself out there. If one hides in the corner and has no interaction then how will others get to know you.