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[_ Old Earth _] Early homosapiens and salvation

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This probably best fits into the theology section, but because I'm asking this from the assumption of an old earth and evolution I feel safer putting it here. If it needs to be moved I understand :)

My question is: where does salvation come into play with ancient man? We know that people could be saved before Christ by trusting in the promise of a messiah, what about ancient people before the law was ever handed down? I guess it's akin to the question of what happens to people who have never heard about Jesus. But my question is, if they couldn't be saved, why would God have waited 30,000 years to provide a way for man? Millions upon millions of lost souls...
 
This probably best fits into the theology section, but because I'm asking this from the assumption of an old earth and evolution I feel safer putting it here. If it needs to be moved I understand :)

My question is: where does salvation come into play with ancient man? We know that people could be saved before Christ by trusting in the promise of a messiah, what about ancient people before the law was ever handed down? I guess it's akin to the question of what happens to people who have never heard about Jesus. But my question is, if they couldn't be saved, why would God have waited 30,000 years to provide a way for man? Millions upon millions of lost souls...
First off,its been a long time.

I wish I had answer other then I don't believe the toe.
 
Hey, Jason :) loooong time, eh?
A few years,I have posted jaci photos here.this is most.recent.
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This probably best fits into the theology section, but because I'm asking this from the assumption of an old earth and evolution I feel safer putting it here. If it needs to be moved I understand :)

My question is: where does salvation come into play with ancient man? We know that people could be saved before Christ by trusting in the promise of a messiah, what about ancient people before the law was ever handed down? I guess it's akin to the question of what happens to people who have never heard about Jesus. But my question is, if they couldn't be saved, why would God have waited 30,000 years to provide a way for man? Millions upon millions of lost souls...

Romans 9:30 What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who followed not after justice, have attained to justice, even the justice that is of faith.
 
St. Paul is speaking of natural law, which all men understand. So they are held accountable for what they have done, knowing what is just and right, but not for revelations they have not received.
 
This probably best fits into the theology section, but because I'm asking this from the assumption of an old earth and evolution I feel safer putting it here. If it needs to be moved I understand :)

My question is: where does salvation come into play with ancient man? We know that people could be saved before Christ by trusting in the promise of a messiah, what about ancient people before the law was ever handed down? I guess it's akin to the question of what happens to people who have never heard about Jesus. But my question is, if they couldn't be saved, why would God have waited 30,000 years to provide a way for man? Millions upon millions of lost souls...

One thing people always seems to forget...or perhaps they stick to what was forced down their throats in science class. Evolution never happened.
Evolution presents a problem to salvation....that is it can't even begin to present a biblical explanation for original sin.

The only ancient men were the pre-flood people from Adam to Noah. Paul in Romans is addressing these people. Are these the ancient people you are questioning or are you referring to a race of people evolved from lesser primates.
 
Cygnus, that doesn't address my question and I'm not looking for a debate :)

I wasn't debating. I though I explained why the 30,000 year issue is a non-issue.
I even asked for a clarification question about just who ancient man was.
 
My use of the term "early homosapiens" gives enough explanation, does it not? It may be a non-issue to you, but it's definitely an issue to me. Since you do not believe mankind is older than 10,000 years, you're not going to be able to help me with my question, I don't think.
 
Ok, reading Romans 2 helps me understand better :thumb
Romans 2 is good.
Also check out Romans 1:17-21
Romans 1:19-20

Barbarian is right in post no. 9.
God can be known by all men who wish to know Him.
In whatever way they can know Him.

Man has always thought that there must be something "superior" to him. Just look at the stars...
How did everything come to be? What happens after death? These are questions that man has always asked himself.
Some do not think of these things. They have a cold heart that does not care about God. Some "see" God and understand about Him even though they've never actually heard of Him.

Men will only be held responsible for what they know; but they can know of God instinctively, if they so wish.

It's the natural law that was mentioned. (not the Law of Nature). Every human person knows instinctively that murder is not right, even though no one may have ever told them. Man does have a conscience, although a good conscience must be formed by knowing God's will for humanity.
 
My use of the term "early homosapiens" gives enough explanation, does it not? It may be a non-issue to you, but it's definitely an issue to me. Since you do not believe mankind is older than 10,000 years, you're not going to be able to help me with my question, I don't think.

To be honest I can't help you with your question because you're going off road biblically. A pre-Adamic biblical view isn't biblical.
 
Romans 2 is good.
Also check out Romans 1:17-21
Romans 1:19-20

Barbarian is right in post no. 9.
God can be known by all men who wish to know Him.
In whatever way they can know Him.

Man has always thought that there must be something "superior" to him. Just look at the stars...
How did everything come to be? What happens after death? These are questions that man has always asked himself.
Some do not think of these things. They have a cold heart that does not care about God. Some "see" God and understand about Him even though they've never actually heard of Him.

Men will only be held responsible for what they know; but they can know of God instinctively, if they so wish.

It's the natural law that was mentioned. (not the Law of Nature). Every human person knows instinctively that murder is not right, even though no one may have ever told them. Man does have a conscience, although a good conscience must be formed by knowing God's will for humanity.
Thank you, Wondering, I appreciate your response.
 
To be honest I can't help you with your question because you're going off road biblically. A pre-Adamic biblical view isn't biblical.
I agree, there is nothing in scripture to support a position of salvation prior to Adam and Eve unless one believes humans existed prior to Adam and even then it is only sheer speculation.
 
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