Father Forgive Them....They Do Not Know What They Are Doing

[Who Me]

Jesus asking the Father to forgive them wouldn't be possible if He himself was holding resentment in His heart. Steven, when he was stoned asked Jesus not to hold it against his executioners. Unless he also forgave them, he wouldn't be able to do this because he would still be bitter in his own heart.

Thank you for your thoughts but I'm just not able to agree with your position.

You don't have to agree.

I'll ask one question.
In your Church where Christians are told they Must forgive no matter what.
A grieving Christian arrives. They have been hurt realy hurt by someone who cannot repent.
They have big issues with how they were hurt.
( imagine a hit and run, a loved one killed or crippled and the driver never found!)

How would you counsel this person?

Would you tell them to forgive, when they cannot?

or would you talk about the issues and encourage this person to hand the issue over to God.
To ask him to deal with the sence of loss, the recentment, the pain, anger etc

Because this is all I am suggesting.

How would you suggest dealing with this imaginary case?

 

[Randy]

You don't have to agree.

I'll ask one question.
In your Church where Christians are told they Must forgive no matter what.
A grieving Christian arrives. They have been hurt realy hurt by someone who cannot repent.
They have big issues with how they were hurt.
( imagine a hit and run, a loved one killed or crippled and the driver never found!)

How would you counsel this person?

Would you tell them to forgive, when they cannot?

or would you talk about the issues and encourage this person to hand the issue over to God.
To ask him to deal with the sence of loss, the recentment, the pain, anger etc

Because this is all I am suggesting.

How would you suggest dealing with this imaginary case?

Give them comfort and have compassion for them not any judgment. Pray for them that God would comfort them and that no root of bitterness would be allowed to grow in them and that God would protect them from the evil one. I am one still working towards perfection myself and not in any position to judge those hurt by others. Though if they sought my counsel I would tell them to cast the whole issue onto God and try to put the hurt behind them. And if there is unlawful activity involved that isn't stopped go to the police and let them deal with it.

 

[Who Me]

Give them comfort and have compassion for them not any judgment. Pray for them that God would comfort them and that no root of bitterness would be allowed to grow in them and that God would protect them from the evil one. I am one still working towards perfection myself and not in any position to judge those hurt by others. Though if they sought my counsel I would tell them to cast the whole issue onto God and try to put the hurt behind them. And if there is unlawful activity involved that isn't stopped go to the police and let them deal with it.

A brillient reply.

 

[Randy]

A brillient reply.

Not use to such a reply.
Thanks,
but I had a good teacher who has humbled me a few times over the decades. Sanctification by seasoning as in wisdom learned. But I still know I have faults yet the Lord loves me as His love is not mans love and His faithfulness endures forever.