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Chapter 28 - Of Baptism
Section 4. Not only those that do actually profess faith in and obedience unto Christ, but also the infants of one, or both, believing parents, are to be baptized.

Acts 2:41 - So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
Acts 8:12-13 - But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being baptized, men and women alike. Even Simon himself believed; and after being baptized, he continued on with Philip, and as he observed signs and great miracles taking place, he was constantly amazed.
Acts 16:14-15 - A woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple fabrics, a worshiper of God, was listening; and the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul. And when she and her household had been baptized, she urged us, saying, "If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house and stay." And she prevailed upon us.
Gen 17:7-14 - "I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you. I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."
God said further to Abraham, "Now as for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised. And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. And every male among you who is eight days old shall be circumcised throughout your generations, a servant who is born in the house or who is bought with money from any foreigner, who is not of your descendants. A servant who is born in your house or who is bought with your money shall surely be circumcised; thus shall My covenant be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant."
Gal 3:9 - So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.
Gal 3:14 - In order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Col 2:11-12 - and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
Acts 2:38-39 - Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call himself."
Romans 4:11-12 - and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised, so that he might be the father of all who believe without being circumcised, that righteousness might be credited to them, and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also follow in the steps of the faith of our father Abraham which he had while uncircumcised.
Matt 19:13 - Then some children were brought to Him so that He might lay His hands on them and pray; and the disciples rebuked them.
Mark 10:13-16 - And they were bringing children to Him so that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked them. But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all." And He took them in His arms and began blessing them, laying His hands on them.
Luke 18:15-17 - And they were bringing even their babies to Him so that He would touch them, but when the disciples saw it, they began rebuking them. But Jesus called for them, saying, "Permit the children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all."
Matt 28:19 - Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
1 Cor 7:14 - For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.

I post this only for informational purposes and for open discussions to possibly clarify what is taught in the Westminister Confession of Faith. I am not posting this in order to open a debate about infant baptism. The scriptures shared here are directly in support of the section of the Confession that I quoted at the top of the post. This fleshes out how the confession that was begun between God and Abraham through circumcision was ultimately replaced with baptism in the New Testament.
 
This is what the Jerusalem Bible says:
John 3:3 "I tell you most solemnly, unless a man is born from above, he can not see the kingdom of God."
John 3:5-7 "I tell you most solemnly, unless a man is born through water and the Spirit, he can not enter the kingdom of God. What is born of the flesh is flesh,(sin nature) what is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be surprised when I say you must be born from above.

John's baptism was literal, but yet symbolic for cleansing after one repented of their sin as John said this had to be done as the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Matthew 3:1-6. This was for the whole household including the children not matter what age.

John's baptism was not for the receiving of the Holy Spirit, Luke 3:16. Mark 1:8 I have baptized you with water, but he (Jesus) will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Not water, but baptize you with the Holy Spirit after you have repented preparing yourself for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus never baptized anyone in literal water that we know of and also instructed the Disciples to wait upon the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, Acts chapter 1, and then commissioned them to go out preaching the Gospel (word/living water) and to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:16-20.

Being born from above means being born from the heavenly word of God, not dirty river water. When Jesus was baptized by John it was for the fulfillment of Messiah come as the Holy Spirit was sent down from heaven and lighted on Him. Jesus had no need of being baptized in water for the remission of sin, but it is by Jesus that we are baptized in the Holy Spirit that empowers us.
 
This is what the Jerusalem Bible says:
John 3:3 "I tell you most solemnly, unless a man is born from above, he can not see the kingdom of God."
John 3:5-7 "I tell you most solemnly, unless a man is born through water and the Spirit, he can not enter the kingdom of God. What is born of the flesh is flesh,(sin nature) what is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be surprised when I say you must be born from above.

John's baptism was literal, but yet symbolic for cleansing after one repented of their sin as John said this had to be done as the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Matthew 3:1-6. This was for the whole household including the children not matter what age.

John's baptism was not for the receiving of the Holy Spirit, Luke 3:16. Mark 1:8 I have baptized you with water, but he (Jesus) will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Not water, but baptize you with the Holy Spirit after you have repented preparing yourself for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus never baptized anyone in literal water that we know of and also instructed the Disciples to wait upon the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, Acts chapter 1, and then commissioned them to go out preaching the Gospel (word/living water) and to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:16-20.

Being born from above means being born from the heavenly word of God, not dirty river water. When Jesus was baptized by John it was for the fulfillment of Messiah come as the Holy Spirit was sent down from heaven and lighted on Him. Jesus had no need of being baptized in water for the remission of sin, but it is by Jesus that we are baptized in the Holy Spirit that empowers us.
Then why would the disciples, and apostles, baptize new believers?

As pointed out in the referenced passages they were commanded to baptize.
 
Then why would the disciples, and apostles, baptize new believers?

As pointed out in the referenced passages they were commanded to baptize.

Did you not just answer your own question or am I not understanding what you are asking?

Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

This verse shows that these men had already received the Holy Spirit, but wanted to be baptized in water also as followers of Christ. So I believe both verses in Acts to be water, but not for the receiving of the Holy Spirit, but an outward appearance to others that they have repented and received the Holy Spirit already.

There is nothing wrong with immersion in water as this is an outward appearance to others that you have received Gods Salvation and the Holy Spirit. When the Disciples where in the upper room they all received the Holy Spirit, not by immersion of water, but by Gods Spirit falling on them.

Peter did not say that it was through river water that we receive the Holy Spirit in Acts 10:47, 48, he was saying that others should not forbid a Gentile who wants to be immersed in water, but repentance must come first. After repentance and the Spiritual rebirth, John 3:5-7, we are then baptized in the Holy Spirit and fire through that of Christ baptism according to Acts 2:38, 39, Matthew 3:11.
 
Acts 2:38

English Standard Version
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Apparently Peter claims water baptism has the power to forgive sins...

Of course, this is an incomplete view if taken as a stand alone verse and can lead to some doctrines on baptism that exceed legalism.

We see that their hearts we're pricked and they were asking how they could repent. Remember, repentance is more than feeling bad, it's about what you can DO to make it right. In this case, Peter tells them to be baptized, and they will be forgiven
 
Acts 2:38

English Standard Version
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Apparently Peter claims water baptism has the power to forgive sins...

Of course, this is an incomplete view if taken as a stand alone verse and can lead to some doctrines on baptism that exceed legalism.

We see that their hearts we're pricked and they were asking how they could repent. Remember, repentance is more than feeling bad, it's about what you can DO to make it right. In this case, Peter tells them to be baptized, and they will be forgiven

Remission (KJV) and forgiveness runs about the same as before they are dunked under the water they are to repent of their sin as God forgives them immediately even before they are dunked in the water as the water symbolizes being made clean again.
 
Acts 2:38

English Standard Version
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Apparently Peter claims water baptism has the power to forgive sins...

Of course, this is an incomplete view if taken as a stand alone verse and can lead to some doctrines on baptism that exceed legalism.

We see that their hearts we're pricked and they were asking how they could repent. Remember, repentance is more than feeling bad, it's about what you can DO to make it right. In this case, Peter tells them to be baptized, and they will be forgiven
I suggest rereading the passage very carefully. It first says to repent, and then be baptized. Baptism is a symbol showing how sins are washed away. Baptism is not what is doing the forgiveness, it is Christ. Baptism is merely demonstrating how that is happening through God's grace.

Honestly, this thread was meant to highlight the Reformed view of baptism, which is biblically-based. This was not meant to open a debate.
 
I suggest rereading the passage very carefully. It first says to repent, and then be baptized. Baptism is a symbol showing how sins are washed away. Baptism is not what is doing the forgiveness, it is Christ. Baptism is merely demonstrating how that is happening through God's grace.

Honestly, this thread was meant to highlight the Reformed view of baptism, which is biblically-based. This was not meant to open a debate.
The way i read it, Baptism was a sign
/ work as part of their repentance which agrees with Paul and Peters writings.
I'm not debating, and if I've side tracked your thread, them my apologies. Neither debate not side tracking your thread were my intent.

Most think Repentance is just feeling bad enough to stop a behavior. It's not. Repentance is to stop doing what's wrong, and start doing what's right.

In Acts, those who cried, "crucify him" repent by being raised with Him in baptism.
 
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