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JM said:
The first one argues justification through Messiah's blood atonement and salvation that is by faith and not works. However, I already believe that.
farley said:Most here seem to feel that believing is all one needs for salvation.
I see works to mean obedience to Gods commands.
You have endorsed obedience in your comments. If you don't see obedience as works, please explain the difference from your view.
John 14:15 KJVR
(15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.
farley said:wavy,
Your thoughts on the Torah are interesting, as well as enlightning. But, it seems to me that everything that one needs to know, in order to obtain salvation, is contained in the New Testament. Jesus said...
John 14:15 KJVR
(15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Reviewing the scriptures, the OT is directed to Israel, the Gentiles were excluded. The NT offers salvation to the Gentiles as well, which includes me.
But, I don't see a working knowledge of the Torah as essential to one's salvation.
greyfeather said:farly,
There is a place I remember in the OT in ISAIAH 42. Were a light to the gentiles is promised , so I don't think they were forgotten.
Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.
As Christians in this age, we need to be aware of modern Galatianism, the mingling of law and grace;