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Other titles for this thread could be:
"Jesus And His Apostles Taught Me How To Use Ad Hominem
And Name-Calling"___Chris Christian
"The Lord Jesus And Many Biblical Hero's Taught Me How To
Use Name-Calling."__Chris Christian
I am very much interested in what the good folks here at cf.net have
to say about this subject.

Let me announce up-front my position:
I disagree with Chris Christian. I do not practice name-calling {ad hominem} and
I do not believe that God wants me to practice it.
But I am open-minded to anything anyone has to tell me on this subject.

Introduction:
A fellow Christian, we will call him Chris Christian, recently told me
there was Biblical warrant for name-calling {ad hominem} in the Bible.
He said that the Lord Jesus and His Apostles and some of the Old
Testament's hero's used name-calling and therefore we have a Biblical
warrant to follow their example and do likewise. He said that we had
Biblical warrant for calling certain people "stupid" and "idiots" and "fools"
and "morons" because these names are mild compared to the name-calling
used by the Lord Jesus and other Biblical hero's. He said that we also
have Biblical warrant for calling certain people "snakes" and "vipers" and
"dogs" and "pigs" and "stupid" and "hypocrites." See below {1} - {6}.

Chris Christian presented some Bible verses that he claimed as support
for his position. {1} through {6} below:

{1} Mathew Chapter 23:
The Lord Jesus talking to His enemies:
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you
have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell
as you are. You blind guides!
You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!

You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside
but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything
unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people
as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and
wickedness.

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being
condemned to hell?
___The Lord Jesus in Matthew chapter 23

{2} Luke 3:7 and Matthew 3:7
"John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him,
"You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the
coming wrath?___John The Baptist

{3} " Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing
their own opinions."___Proverbs 18:2 NIV

{4}"Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates
correction is stupid." ___Proverbs 12:1 NIV

{5} "Outside are the dogs."___The Apostle John Revelation 22:15 NIV
John calls some humans "dogs."

{6} "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs.
If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear
you to pieces.___The Lord Jesus Matthew 7:6
The Lord Jesus says here that some humans are "dogs" and "pigs."

__________

Here is the definition of:
ad hominem - an attack directed against the person, rather
than against their argument or their position

Again I am very much interested in what the good folks here at cf.net have
to say about the subject above.


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ad hominem - an attack directed against the person, rather
than against their argument or their position

Interesting post☺️

Yes if we are imitating Jesus then there is grounds for name calling, but I would say that is very rarely appropriate and a far better approach would be to be gracious towards them, showing them love.

For those who are clearly not interested in one's answer or only want an endless argument there does come along when one gets tough with them and no longer plays there game.

We have to bare in mind that many non believers have been hurt by 'christians', if we are talking with them, do we reinforce there experience or show them that we are compassionate etc.
 
Other titles for this thread could be:
"Jesus And His Apostles Taught Me How To Use Ad Hominem
And Name-Calling"___Chris Christian
"The Lord Jesus And Many Biblical Hero's Taught Me How To
Use Name-Calling."__Chris Christian
I am very much interested in what the good folks here at cf.net have
to say about this subject.

Let me announce up-front my position:
I disagree with Chris Christian. I do not practice name-calling {ad hominem} and
I do not believe that God wants me to practice it.
But I am open-minded to anything anyone has to tell me on this subject.

Introduction:
A fellow Christian, we will call him Chris Christian, recently told me
there was Biblical warrant for name-calling {ad hominem} in the Bible.
He said that the Lord Jesus and His Apostles and some of the Old
Testament's hero's used name-calling and therefore we have a Biblical
warrant to follow their example and do likewise. He said that we had
Biblical warrant for calling certain people "stupid" and "idiots" and "fools"
and "morons" because these names are mild compared to the name-calling
used by the Lord Jesus and other Biblical hero's. He said that we also
have Biblical warrant for calling certain people "snakes" and "vipers" and
"dogs" and "pigs" and "stupid" and "hypocrites." See below {1} - {6}.

Chris Christian presented some Bible verses that he claimed as support
for his position. {1} through {6} below:

{1} Mathew Chapter 23:
The Lord Jesus talking to His enemies:
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you
have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell
as you are. You blind guides!
You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!

You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside
but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything
unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people
as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and
wickedness.

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being
condemned to hell?
___The Lord Jesus in Matthew chapter 23

{2} Luke 3:7 and Matthew 3:7
"John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him,
"You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the
coming wrath?___John The Baptist

{3} " Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing
their own opinions."___Proverbs 18:2 NIV

{4}"Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates
correction is stupid." ___Proverbs 12:1 NIV

{5} "Outside are the dogs."___The Apostle John Revelation 22:15 NIV
John calls some humans "dogs."

{6} "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs.
If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear
you to pieces.___The Lord Jesus Matthew 7:6
The Lord Jesus says here that some humans are "dogs" and "pigs."

__________

Here is the definition of:
ad hominem - an attack directed against the person, rather
than against their argument or their position

Again I am very much interested in what the good folks here at cf.net have
to say about the subject above.


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As civilized and intelligent persons, we always address the argument and not the person.

You can tell Chris Christian that HE is not Jesus and if he wants to be a disciple of Christ, he should read Matthew 5:3-9,,,,how to behave if you wish to follow the beatitudes.

Christians are supposed to be a model for others....a standard.
We are NOT supposed to be like the secular world that speak curses and badly of others.

Jesus said to be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove. Matthew 10:16
Jesus said it matters not what goes into the mouth, but what comes out of it. Matthew 15:11
James said we should watch our tongue or we are deceived. James 1:26
What we speak should build up and not break down. Ephesians 4:29

I'm sure there's plenty more......
 
Interesting post☺

Yes if we are imitating Jesus then there is grounds for name calling, but I would say that is very rarely appropriate and a far better approach would be to be gracious towards them, showing them love.

For those who are clearly not interested in one's answer or only want an endless argument there does come along when one gets tough with them and no longer plays there game.

We have to bare in mind that many non believers have been hurt by 'christians', if we are talking with them, do we reinforce there experience or show them that we are compassionate etc.
If we are following Jesus there are grounds for name-calling?
Where is this verse?
Maybe we should also go to Jerusalem and head for Golgatha to be like Him in dying?
 
Here are some Bible verses that might relate in some way to the Opening Post?

"Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."__Galatians 6:1-2

"Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come
to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them
captive to do his will."__2 Timothy 2:25-26

"My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. ___The Lord Jesus John 15:12-14

"If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other."___Galatians 5:15

"Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."___Ephesians 4:32

"Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble."__1 Peter 3:8

"Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification."__Romans 14:19

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with
everyone."___Romans 12:18

"Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble."__1 Peter 3:8

"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."__2 Timothy 2:23

"Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who
listen."__2 Timothy 2:14

"If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal."__1 Corinthians 13:1

__________________

I put those Bible verses up-there in this thread just for handy reference.
These would apply for certain when talking to fellow Christians.
______

Interesting comments up there.
 
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Here is a point about Matthew chapter 23 where the Lord Jesus called those
Pharisees and Teachers Of The Law "snakes and vipers" -- they were murderers.

These were the same people that tried to kill the Lord Jesus and tried
to kill Lazarus as well because Lazarus, raised from the dead, was the living
evidence that the Lord Jesus was exactly who He claimed to be.
So?
So I don't think we are going to be talking to any people like that, at least not
that we know of. I mean I don't ever recall talking to any murderers. Do you?
So?
So my view is that we do NOT have a clear and solid Biblical warrant in Matthew 23,
to call anyone a "snake or viper" during discussions or during argumentation or
any other time.

Then this point: The Lord Jesus knew hearts and minds. At least He knew the
hearts and minds of those murderous Pharisees and Teachers Of The Law in
Matthew chapter 23. I myself do NOT know the hearts and minds of
anyone --- not with certainty I don't.

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Here is a point about Matthew chapter 23 where the Lord Jesus called those
Pharisees and Teachers Of The Law "snakes and vipers" -- they were murderers.

These were the same people that tried to kill the Lord Jesus and tried
to kill Lazarus as well because Lazarus, raised from the dead, was the living
evidence that the Lord Jesus was exactly who He claimed to be.
So?
So I don't think we are going to be talking to any people like that, at least not
that we know of. I mean I don't ever recall talking to any murderers. Do you?
So?
So my view is that we do NOT have a clear and solid Biblical warrant in Matthew 23,
to call anyone a "snake or viper" during discussions or during argumentation or
any other time.

Then this point: The Lord Jesus knew hearts and minds. At least He knew the
hearts and minds of those murderous Pharisees and Teachers Of The Law in
Matthew chapter 23. I myself do NOT know the hearts and minds of
anyone --- not with certainty I don't.

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Not only that...but Jesus spoke with authority ---- of course.
He meant to change the law and make it more easy for those that were trying to follow it (I mean the commandments) since the Pharisees made it so burdensome. And Jesus could make this change...we could not.

Agreed. We do NOT have any biblical authority to speak badly to others or mistreat them in any way. Quite the opposite is true.
 
Not only that...but Jesus spoke with authority ---- of course.
He meant to change the law and make it more easy for those that were trying to follow it (I mean the commandments) since the Pharisees made it so burdensome. And Jesus could make this change...we could not.

Agreed. We do NOT have any biblical authority to speak badly to others or mistreat them in any way. Quite the opposite is true.

Wondering,
Thanks for your comments. I'm reading them all carefully.
 
If we are following Jesus there are grounds for name-calling?
Where is this verse?
Maybe we should also go to Jerusalem and head for Golgatha to be like Him in dying?

As I said if we are imitating Jesus one could copy him when he insulted the Pharisees etc, but I also said that this is not the best practice.
Jesus's command to us was if we Love him we are to obey him, and that means Loving people.
 
Jesus only used those words to liken others by what He said they acted like. It was not done out of bullying, but to show them the errors of their ways by their actions towards others. We are to walk in the greatest commandment of love even towards our enemies.
 
As I said if we are imitating Jesus one could copy him when he insulted the Pharisees etc, but I also said that this is not the best practice.
Jesus's command to us was if we Love him we are to obey him, and that means Loving people.
If we love people, we do not call them names.
We don't get to speak to Pharisees anymore.
You're statement kind of confuses me....
Jesus clearly said how we are to act,
and He said what comes out of the mouth can defile.
I posted some verses regarding this,,,there are many more.
I just hope you don't practice calling persons names as it would
be a bad testimony to your faith.
Most probably we're speaking past each other --

:)
 
If we love people, we do not call them names.
We don't get to speak to Pharisees anymore.
You're statement kind of confuses me....
Jesus clearly said how we are to act,
and He said what comes out of the mouth can defile.
I posted some verses regarding this,,,there are many more.
I just hope you don't practice calling persons names as it would
be a bad testimony to your faith.
Most probably we're speaking past each other --

:)
"We don't get to speak to Pharisees anymore."___Wondering

That's a good point. You nailed it.
And even if we found some modern day "same as the Pharisees" types
we don't have the authority that the Lord Jesus had -- "the Word was God"
John 1:1

Then here is a point worth making:
There is not a single Bible verse anywhere that COMMANDS us
to call anybody a name. So if we don't ever do it, we are NOT
being disobedient to any Bible command.

Also this:
If I am talking to an atheist, it is true that the Bible says "the fool has said
in his heart there is no God" --- but I don't have to call him a fool. I can instead
say to him, God says in the Bible that a man is a fool if he says there
is no God, and moreover God loves you and so does the Lord Jesus and They
both want to to become a Christian.
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"We don't get to speak to Pharisees anymore."___Wondering

That's a good point. You nailed it.
And even if we found some modern day "same as the Pharisees" types
we don't have the authority that the Lord Jesus had -- "the Word was God"
John 1:1

Then here is a point worth making:
There is not a single Bible verse anywhere that COMMANDS us
to call anybody a name. So if we don't ever do it, we are NOT
being disobedient to any Bible command.

Also this:
If I am talking to an atheist, it is true that the Bible says "the fool has said
in his heart there is no God" --- but I don't have to call him a fool. I can instead
say to him, God says in the Bible that a man is a fool if he says there
is no God, and moreover God loves you and so does the Lord Jesus and They
both want to to become a Christian.
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Agreed.
You know...we could think someone is a fool and still love them?
Agape love, that is.
Love is how we treat a person.
My neighbor is a fool because he keeps getting kitten and they keep getting killed
because he lets them out too soon.
This is foolish behavior.
But I agape love all my neighbors.

Do you agree? Or is this hypocritical?
But must sign off now....
1 a.m. here.
 
Agreed.
You know...we could think someone is a fool and still love them?
Agape love, that is.
Love is how we treat a person.
My neighbor is a fool because he keeps getting kitten and they keep getting killed
because he lets them out too soon.
This is foolish behavior.
But I agape love all my neighbors.

Do you agree? Or is this hypocritical?
But must sign off now....
1 a.m. here.


"You know...we could think someone is a fool and still love them?
Agape love, that is.
Love is how we treat a person.
My neighbor is a fool because he keeps getting kitten and they
keep getting killed because he lets them out too soon.
This is foolish behavior.
But I agape love all my neighbors.
Do you agree? Or is this hypocritical?"___Wondering


Wondering,
Short answer:
~~ I'd personally use the word "unwise" with your neighbor.
~~ No, you're not being hypocritical

Longer answer:
Regarding the use of the word "fool", here is my view:

{1} We need a definition of the word "fool."
fool - "a person who acts unwisely or imprudently; a silly person."
This definition will allow us to get the basic idea of fool", which will
then allow us to collect several other words that are softer and less
harsh than the strong word "fool." See {5} below.

{2} The word "fool" in the English speaking world has taken on a clear
and bold connotation as a rather strong insult.
connotation - "an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to
its literal or primary meaning."
So? So I believe the word "fool" has taken on very strong harsh nuances
in the minds of many people -- they interpret being called a 'fool" as
we saying they are "a retarded stupid idiot moron." Since it is a fact that
some do interpret it that way, my view is we ought to avoid the use of the
word "fool" and not say directly to a person "YOU are a FOOL."

{3} When we encounter foolish behavior or foolish talk, I think we should
ask ourselves this question: "Why do I need to say this person is a "fool",
rather that saying "This person is acting and talking unwisely?"

(4} All this, in this post, is why I personally would use the term "unwisely"
with regard to your neighbor's kitten policy. Or I'd use "ill-considered."

{5} The basic idea behind the word "fool" allows us to choose from a rather
wide selection of other words less harsh than "fool."
We can select one of these:
a} I think you are acting or talking unwisely.
b} I think you are acting or talking imprudently.
c} I think you are acting or talking carelessly.
d} I think you are misguided in your actions.
e} unthinking
f} injudicious
g} ill-considered
h] thoughtless

{6} My view is we ought to apply Matthew 7:12 to this issue.
"So in everything do to others what you would have them
do to you."
I JAG do something or say something that is very foolish.
Would I prefer my critic to say:
{A} JAG you are a fool.
{B} JAG you are silly.
{C } JAG you are unwise.
{D} JAG you are acting and talking unwisely.

I think most of us would select { D }, if we were on the receiving end
of the correction-criticism.

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"You know...we could think someone is a fool and still love them?
Agape love, that is.
Love is how we treat a person.
My neighbor is a fool because he keeps getting kitten and they
keep getting killed because he lets them out too soon.
This is foolish behavior.
But I agape love all my neighbors.
Do you agree? Or is this hypocritical?"___Wondering


Wondering,
Short answer:
~~ I'd personally use the word "unwise" with your neighbor.
~~ No, you're not being hypocritical

Longer answer:
Regarding the use of the word "fool", here is my view:

{1} We need a definition of the word "fool."
fool - "a person who acts unwisely or imprudently; a silly person."
This definition will allow us to get the basic idea of fool", which will
then allow us to collect several other words that are softer and less
harsh than the strong word "fool." See {5} below.

{2} The word "fool" in the English speaking world has taken on a clear
and bold connotation as a rather strong insult.
connotation - "an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to
its literal or primary meaning."
So? So I believe the word "fool" has taken on very strong harsh nuances
in the minds of many people -- they interpret being called a 'fool" as
we saying they are "a retarded stupid idiot moron." Since it is a fact that
some do interpret it that way, my view is we ought to avoid the use of the
word "fool" and not say directly to a person "YOU are a FOOL."

{3} When we encounter foolish behavior or foolish talk, I think we should
ask ourselves this question: "Why do I need to say this person is a "fool",
rather that saying "This person is acting and talking unwisely?"

(4} All this, in this post, is why I personally would use the term "unwisely"
with regard to your neighbor's kitten policy. Or I'd use "ill-considered."

{5} The basic idea behind the word "fool" allows us to choose from a rather
wide selection of other words less harsh than "fool."
We can select one of these:
a} I think you are acting or talking unwisely.
b} I think you are acting or talking imprudently.
c} I think you are acting or talking carelessly.
d} I think you are misguided in your actions.
e} unthinking
f} injudicious
g} ill-considered
h] thoughtless

{6} My view is we ought to apply Matthew 7:12 to this issue.
"So in everything do to others what you would have them
do to you."
I JAG do something or say something that is very foolish.
Would I prefer my critic to say:
{A} JAG you are a fool.
{B} JAG you are silly.
{C } JAG you are unwise.
{D} JAG you are acting and talking unwisely.

I think most of us would select { D }, if we were on the receiving end
of the correction-criticism.

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Thanks!
I agree fully.
Mr. T used to say YOU FOOL all the time.
Guess it was more accepted back then.
I would like you to know that I'd never tell my neighbor any such word...I just used to think it.
To me fool means unwise. But OK. I can update.
:helmet
 
Thanks!
I agree fully.
Mr. T used to say YOU FOOL all the time.
Guess it was more accepted back then.
I would like you to know that I'd never tell my neighbor any such word...I just used to think it.
To me fool means unwise. But OK. I can update.
:helmet

"Thanks!
I agree fully.
Mr. T used to say YOU FOOL all the time.
Guess it was more accepted back then.
I would like you to know that I'd never tell my neighbor
any such word...I just used to think it.
To me fool means unwise. But OK. I can update."___Wondering


* Y'welcome

* Thanks for taking the time to reply.

* Yah. Mr. T of Clubber Lang fame "I pity the fool."

* I never thought you would actually call your neighbor a fool.

* "I can update" is a cool phrase.



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Have you never talked with people who while willing to talk with you are doing so only to ridicule your faith. Or to demonstrate there superior ability to argue and have had the same people talking to you every day or everyone you go out to evangelize.

Sometimes the only way to stop that is to verbally slap them, by calling them out and telling they are being foolish, or how ever you choose to do it.

It can have two affects, a row and they nolonger talk to you or they do talk to you but more sensible.

The command is don't cast pearls to pigs. The problem is how do you recognise them and once you start engaging with them how does one stop.
 
3} " Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing
their own opinions."___Proverbs 18:2 NIV


“You have heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:21-22




JLB
 
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:21-22
JLB

"And whoever says to his brother, Raca!’ shall be in danger of the
council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of
hell fire.
Matthew 5:21-22"___JLB

*JLB, that's a good verse to put here in the thread. Thank you.

* I never use the word "fool" as a name for anybody Christian or non-Christian.
My reasons are up-thread , , , Your Matthew 5:21-22 just gave me another
reason to NOT use "fool" as a name for a person, as in "You are a fool."

* Some might say that Matthew 5:21-22 is teaching do not call your Christian
brother a fool , , ,"whoever says to his brother"

* However my view is that "brother" is more likely to be a reference to one's
"fellow human being." If I am correct { ? } on that, then Matthew 5:21-22 is
a clear and bold warning from the Lord Jesus to NOT call any human being a
fool.




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Have you never talked with people who while willing to talk with you are doing so only to ridicule your faith. Or to demonstrate there superior ability to argue and have had the same people talking to you every day or everyone you go out to evangelize.

Sometimes the only way to stop that is to verbally slap them, by calling them out and telling they are being foolish, or how ever you choose to do it.

It can have two affects, a row and they nolonger talk to you or they do talk to you but more sensible.

The command is don't cast pearls to pigs. The problem is how do you recognise them and once you start engaging with them how does one stop.

"Have you never talked with people who while willing to talk with you
are doing so only to ridicule your faith."___Who Me


I have been on the web a long time taking to Atheists who despise God and
despise Christianity while claiming to not believe in God. My approach is to
totally ignore the insults and name-calling and post back with the truths of the
gospel message. After all, their insults and expletives are nothing but mere
words on a screen. And once they discover that you're NOT going to react
to their nonsense, they will usually stop it. But if not, so what? Again its
nothing but mere words on a screen and can't do you any real harm.

Also this point: If you stay calm and never let yourself "get rattled" or
"emotionally involved" and if you continue to make reasonable points
in spite of their insults and expletives, then it becomes obvious to all the
sane people in the thread that YOU are the one that is the mature adult
who is behaving himself and not your foul-mouthed opponent.

I have actually had more reasonable atheists "call out" their own fellow
atheists who were making all atheists look bad by their use of bad language
and insults.

Also after years on the Internet I have learned not to give atheists fuel for
their "fire" so to speak. Take the oxygen away from the "fire" and it dies out.
Internet Atheists are looking for "fuel" to keep their "fire" going. Don't give it
to them.

Honest truth: i have had them post back later and apologize to me for their
misbehavior. It was because I never "responded in kind" --- instead I posted
only kindness and reasonable points in response to their name-calling and
expletives.

I think people have a different tolerance level for insults and expletives. I look
at it as dealing with spoiled children. Spoiled children throw tantrums and
"hissy fits" of rage instead of being calm and mature.

Then too, my motive and goals for posting on the Internet is to help people
and make some measurable contribution to their life --- and I am satisfied
with the principle that "something is better than absolutely nothing" --- this
means that if I can make a contribution to another human being's life that
is even this much 0.01 then I am happy about the 0.01 and will continue to
post. And I CAN achieve at least 0.01 in the midst of insults and bad language.
It just rolls off me like water on a duck's back. I don't let children's tantrums
get to me.

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Who Me, thanks for your comments.
And thanks for taking the time to write them up.

JAG

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Edit: , , LOL , , , Just a second ago I had an atheist post this to me
after I had witnessed to him about John 3:16 and Eternal Life:

"If only you could prove it! Unfortunately for you there are
many people who have offered eternal life and not one,
anywhere, never has been able to show it. They are all liars,
snake oil salesmen, ignorant or fools If you think you can be
the first person in history to show there is eternal life be my
guest."___The Atheist

I posted back with this:
JAG Wrote:
* Christianity is a faith.
* It advances in the world supernaturally.
* The supernatural cannot be measured with Empiricism.
* Hebrews 11:6 below is the path to Faith which can lead
to John 3:16 and Eternal Life.
______

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because
anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists
and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."
Hebrews 11:6

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