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[__ Prayer __] i want out of mental health, inc.

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not going all antipsychiatry or whatever, just...

before Jesus saved me, they'd already ruined my life. now...I have life, and that more abundantly, in Christ, and...

I don't think Jesus+mental health is even -possible-, much less helpful or whatever. Jesus saves. I want out of the clinic. Eventually, I'd like to see about a j-o-b and transition into a life outside the lies and labels. thing is...

right now, im on disability...and that's a -huge- blessing. i wont lose it if i work, but just getting a job is going to be a challenge, and....

get a job, great. You are now a "Schizophrenic" with a job. No job? Oh. You're a "mental patient." its just....the world, the nature of the situation.

I also want off the "medication." its...a tranquilizer. and I think at this point its doing more to hold me in bondage and I kinda suspect it contributes to low mood/"depression," etc. makes sense, anyway.

its...not about building productive citizens or even 'good' people, much less producing anything remotely Christ-like...

and its not how I want to live the rest of my life, a life that isn't even 'mine,' not really....its Christ's life in me. and...

I saw what mental health ,inc. is really about. i cant un-see it or un-learn the lessons i learned, thru their 'treatments,' etc. Its not of God, its not compatible with Jesus, and I kind of suspect that its really just bondage, oppression, lies...possibly an element of witchcraft, when you start looking at the heavy use of drugs to control people and alter behavior, etc.

ok. I'm -not- a bitter patient or anything, not now...I'm a child of God. I'm beginning to truly love Jesus and think of Him, much more than before, and...

this isn't of God. a lot of it is lies and chaos and wickedness. I pray for whatever it is I need to drop the tranq, get out of the clinic, and move on, and...above all else...

I Praise God and pray for His perfect will for my life. :)
 
Did you know that they changed the Hippocratic oath in the 1960's? The original Hippocratic oath was written in the 5th century BC./ That was with us a long time. They essentially just recently changed it.

Google both of them and read them. I doubt you would be surprised at what the new one says, but you might be surprised at what the original one said. They are like night and day, they're that different. It's enough to make a man look towards God for his healing and forego earthly medicine permanently.
 
yeah...honestly, i havent had really good fortune with most of the medical establishment, but...

its always, always been the mental health, inc. people who took things to a whole other level.


When I (miraculously...) got genuinely, truly saved, I'd been given heavy, involuntary shock treatments...left to die from an untreated sleeping pill OD in a hospital...oh, and there was that time I was lobotomized. that was fun (LOL)...

and, at that point, I was patched up and limping along, in desperate need of Jesus. Almost 6 years later...

I don't think there is such as a thing as 'severe mental illness,' or 'personality disorder,' or...any of it, honestly. not that 'mental patients' are all victims or 'misunderstood' or whatever, but...

im thinking 99% of 'mental patients' are less dangerous than your typical psychiatrist. not that the shrinks are evil, just...they seem fairly self-important, mediocre. they're here to break the rule breakers, control the weaklings, destroy the losers...

that's not actually what id call 'medicine,' but...OK. I don't need psychiatry. most 'mental patients' don't, either...but society needs psychiatry.

kinda rambling...on my end, this means i need to pray and continue repenting of all the lies ive been told, told myself, accepted, have been made to accept, etc. it isn't just "no, I"m not Bipolar I/Schizophrenic/blah blah blah," its the whole shebang, as in...

I dont need a pseudo-friend/"counselor" to discuss my "problems" with. I have Jesus, my parents, real friends...by the grace of God. I don't need pills to dampen my emotions to 'treat Bipolar I.' nope. no one does, certainly not long term. and I don't need to do a constant rehash of my past and blah blah blah...

no such thing as narcissism, schizophrenia, bipolar i, etc. i was destroyed, in large part by mental health inc., and Jesus saved me, anyway. now, I'm healthy, bright eyed, intelligent, and transformed by Him, and...

the world's pretty much the same, with me in it, but not of it. mental health, inc. is the same, too...same roles, different actors...

and I never wanted what they -really- do to people, and i certainly don't want or need it now, nor do i think it is at all of God.

and there you go. :)
 
Do you see how easy it would be to stop identifying with them, now that you've perceived their lies?
You were born again. A new man. A new creature. There is your identity my Brother. :yes

You're not schizophrenic to me. You are, Christ_Empowered...and you are!
 
thanks. :)

Jesus sets the captives free. He has set me free and is setting me free, and...this stuff is just bondage, plain and simple. I'm not impressed, I'm not interested, and I'd very much like to make a quiet, uneventful exit...

I just don't quite know how. they're all about mind games and control, etc., and--thanks to Christ--I'm increasingly about honesty and just...doing what I think is the right thing or at least the less bad option, lol. anyway...

so, I'm technically a "voluntary outpatient." That's something of a miracle, in and of itself. breeze in, get prescriptions, talk to a counselor, leave. thing is...

because I'm a "trouble maker" (LOL), because I'm a "mental patient," my "treatment" involves put downs, mind games, etc., maybe more so than other patients/people? I dunno. I think The Lord's work in my life is amazing, great for my parents and me...but Mental Health, Inc. likes its captives docile, slow, sedated, poor...

and I'm no longer any of those things. I mean, poor is not a sin or a bad thing, necessarily, but in Mental Health Land, being poor=easy target, so its a good thing my parents have more $$$ now.

sorry about rambling. God is good! there are some good people in mental health, inc....especially in counseling, not so much psychiatry. they're few and far between, though. what's that about? oh wait...lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. got it. time to move on...
 
My wife has a hard time forgiving a city fire station because of how some of the people there (including people in charge) stood by a lie that got her father fired from that station. That had been years and years ago, long before I knew her, but she has a hard time with the town she grew up in because of it.

I'm pointing this out because Christ_Empowered, your last reply sounds like there's a lot to stay angry about with the psychiatrists that didn't care about the people they were suppose to help. It's a good reason to be angry at them and a hard reason to let go of to forgive.

Not that forgiving them means trusting them or means letting things go so they do it again to someone else. Honestly I can't say what it means to forgive, expecially when the one who's wronged you doesn't care and has no intention to change.

Luke 6:27-28 and Mathew 5:43-48 speaks about this as does Mathew 18:15-17. From Luke 6 and Mathew 5 it says to love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who persecute you and hurt you. In Mathew 18 it talks about confronting a fellow Christian who sinned against you, but I think it could be applied to trying to forgive psychiatry too, because of how it lays it out before letting the other person go and having nothing more to do with them.

Christ _Empowered, I wish I had more to offer you then this, and had some advise on how to fix the issues. But for now who knows, maybe God is allowing you to talk to a consoler so they can hear how the mental health industry is broken. If the consoler cares about helping people, then maybe they'll have solutions or even have an impact on putting a spotlight on the matter. Have psychiatry glared on and judged by the medical community for if they are actually doing any good.

Regardless I'm sorry that right now your in a position to be persecuted by the doctors and people that harmed you. May God help you, and strengthen you. Hopefully He'll take you from the mental health industry that hurt you. But if He doesn't follow that yet, hope He strengthens you and encourages you through it. Good luck friend.
 
hi. ive kind of been anxiously awaiting replies to this, so...thanks, seriously. i mean that.

I've been praying to forgive, to be provided what I need to forigve 70x7, and even naming some of the worst people by name. and...

less angry. far less bitter. i think its more...im definitely disillusioned. God's work in my life has made it possible for me to forgive...more than before, but not yet fully.

i was given shock and operations (not voluntary...). i am now surprisingly intelligent. i was left dead eyed. i am now bright eyed and remarkably normal. my parents were never going to forgive me for slo-motion suicide by shrink. we have now reconciled, and they're doing well, too.

but...my counselor, he's a Christian...used the term 'chemical imbalances' 3 times in a row one recent time I saw him. there's no such thing. no one has proof that any mental problem is a brain problem, and the psych drugs are just band-aids and palliatives, on a good day (and there aren't that many good days in mental health, inc.).

so...its kinda like this...im blessed to be on disability. The Lord is using the labels now stuck on me to make my life much better, in absolute terms...my parents are reconciling with me, im healthy, i dont have to work a hi-stress job i couldnt handle, and i even have a new, nice place to live (parents). ok. so far, so good.

im not raging now. im not even furious. its just...ive seen what psychiatry and psychology, etc. really are, you know? i saw it in the 2 hospitals, i saw it in the involuntary facial tics and i definitely saw it in jail, big time. so...

there is no changing the industry. nope. none. and there is no un-doing what was done, except...well...it is more than a bit unusual for someone with as much brain damage as i was dealing with when i had brain scans, about 11 years ago, to be functioning -at all-, and now even my IQ estimate is up a good bit (from 95 back then...should have 'been a vegetable,' as the nurses said...to 120 or 130something now...not genius, but..."quite intelligent," etc....), so...

that helps in the forgiveness dept., too, but...they're often mediocre and vicious human beings, those mental health people.

I have been forgiven a massive debt. Time to forgive the minor debts, especially in light of God's goodness to -me-, someone who could have easily died brain damaged, broken, and alone, and ended up in the pits of Hell, no escape. its just...

as every Christian knows..."Easier said than done." blah. :)
 
i really do like your posts, so i hope my replies didn't come across as anything other than appreciative...

im just pretty much stating the obvious: easier said than done.

just thought id post (again...) to clarify...the internet can get rough, because all anyone has to go on in these sorts of forums is text, no voice tone, inflection, minimal context, etc.

ok. finished, now. :)
 
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