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I Would NEVER Let My Children Do This

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So I was learning an awful lot about geocaching today (as I already marked in the lounge) and afterwards I stopped at an ice cream shop and I noticed that two children were off by themselves. That's it. There was absolutely no parent or guardian with them. Now I realize that they could have lived nearby but it was still an extremely busy road and in today's day and age it is very easy for them to get hurt or even kidnapped.
 

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We used to go camping for two weeks at a time without any adults with us. Just 4 to 6 of us kids with some bedrolls and camping gear. We was armed to the teeth too, so nothing ever did happen that was bad.

My kids never really went off camping on their own. But they came with me or us quite a bit. There's less chance of something happening in the woods than in the city. You watch too much tv Sister, lol.
 

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We used to go camping for two weeks at a time without any adults with us. Just 4 to 6 of us kids with some bedrolls and camping gear. We was armed to the teeth too, so nothing ever did happen that was bad.

My kids never really went off camping on their own. But they came with me or us quite a bit. There's less chance of something happening in the woods than in the city. You watch too much tv Sister, lol.


First of all I currently live in the city and second of all child endangerment is no laughing matter.
 

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People usually learn at a young age about road safety. It's usually one of the first things kids get taught when they start to play outside.
 

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We used to go camping for two weeks at a time without any adults with us. Just 4 to 6 of us kids with some bedrolls and camping gear. We was armed to the teeth too, so nothing eve
r did happen that was bad.

My kids never really went off camping on their own. But they came with me or us quite a bit. There's less chance of something happening in the woods than in the city. You watch too much tv Sister, lol.
Hold that thought,thanksgiving I was nearby this and I grew up in a similitAR area but not as small.only a few streets,one church,no stores and a bunch of trailers ,homes in the vicinity. And major hWY to the south and the turnpike.there might be a 100 people living there.kids could roam that ,hunt too .
 

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Most kidnappers are known by the victims,and rape victims .my sister was raped by her bf,and family friend .
 

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First of all I currently live in the city and second of all child endangerment is no laughing matter.
Yeah I suppose so. Not everyone was raised like I was or like I raised my kids. I grew up in a different millenia and things are not that way anymore. But I was a prettty big time gun owner by the time I met my wife and started having kids. She said, if one gun ever goes off in the house, you have to get rid of all of them! I took her seriously and I wouldn't want anyone to ever get hurt with a gun accidently (or negligently) in my house (or anywhere, lol). I knew that I could not childproof my guns. So...I had to gunproof my children instead. So I did.

I just drilled gun sfety into my kids from...age two or thereabouts. They would ask to see one, and touch it. So I would first, make them recite the four rules of gun safety (do you know them?!) and after they did, then I'd go through this big dramatic 'Lets makes sure we point it in a safe direction and make sure there's no bullets in it...' and like that. Then I would let them see it. I made them a deal. That they could see a gun anytme they wanted to, IF they asked first. Sometimes they would ask, Dad, can I play with a gun? And I would correct them. We don't "play" with real guns, we 'handle them'....and on and on and on. When it was their bedtime seemed to be the time they wanted to see one the most, lol .

I can't remember how many card games with friends that I put on hold while I went into the kids bedroom to show them a gun. I knew that were trying to take advantage so they could stay up a little longer, but I wanted to keep my word to them, that they could see one anytime if they asked first. So I did. And I had them up at the target range before they were 3 years old. Shooting 22's and even high power rifles (.223's, full prone off a rest). They loved it. There was also never ever any type of accidental discharge at home or on the range. I demonstrated the power of guns to them at the range. I'd shake up a can of pop and let one of them shoot it, and they could see the pop spraying, the cam flying, all that. Then I would go pick up the split can and hand it to them and say, fix it...make it better. It was very appatrent they could not. Then I'd say, this is real, this is not TV. This is what would happen to your brother or mommy if you shot them. Dont Do It! And the kids learned very well to be gun safe.

This might upset you and I'm sorry if it does, but the fact is that I was letting them keep loaded handguns on their bedroom by the time they were 10 or 11. We had already had a lot of small game hunting under our belt by then and I learned to trust them. They never let me down either. They would get into knock down drag out fights, and neither one ever picked one up or threatened anyone with one. I remember one time that they (made me so proud!) had friends over, and one of the kids called me to their room. He said, I'm not totally sure that my friend is trustworthy with guns, dad. Can you hold all these until after they leave because...I do have to go to the bathroom sometimes...(and not be able to watch the friends). Now those kids are gunproof. Because I did take it seriously.

I even taught them that when their playing with toy guns...to not point them at anyone who was a non-combatant in their game. Some people take offense to that, and rightly so in todays world. So sorry if I answered off the cuff and upset you Sister. I prolly should have realized that, most people are not so thorough about teaching their kids to be safe.
 

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Most kidnappers are known by the victims,and rape victims .my sister was raped by her bf,and family friend .
That's why I let my kids start keeping loaded guns in their room...save mommy if something happens while I'm at work...I was working a lot back then and sometimes, bad people happen. Praise the Lord that scenario never happened!
 

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Yeah I suppose so. Not everyone was raised like I was or like I raised my kids. I grew up in a different millenia and things are not that way anymore. But I was a prettty big time gun owner by the time I met my wife and started having kids. She said, if one gun ever goes off in the house, you have to get rid of all of them! I took her seriously and I wouldn't want anyone to ever get hurt with a gun accidently (or negligently) in my house (or anywhere, lol). I knew that I could not childproof my guns. So...I had to gunproof my children instead. So I did.

I just drilled gun sfety into my kids from...age two or thereabouts. They would ask to see one, and touch it. So I would first, make them recite the four rules of gun safety (do you know them?!) and after they did, then I'd go through this big dramatic 'Lets makes sure we point it in a safe direction and make sure there's no bullets in it...' and like that. Then I would let them see it. I made them a deal. That they could see a gun anytme they wanted to, IF they asked first. Sometimes they would ask, Dad, can I play with a gun? And I would correct them. We don't "play" with real guns, we 'handle them'....and on and on and on. When it was their bedtime seemed to be the time they wanted to see one the most, lol .

I can't remember how many card games with friends that I put on hold while I went into the kids bedroom to show them a gun. I knew that were trying to take advantage so they could stay up a little longer, but I wanted to keep my word to them, that they could see one anytime if they asked first. So I did. And I had them up at the target range before they were 3 years old. Shooting 22's and even high power rifles (.223's, full prone off a rest). They loved it. There was also never ever any type of accidental discharge at home or on the range. I demonstrated the power of guns to them at the range. I'd shake up a can of pop and let one of them shoot it, and they could see the pop spraying, the cam flying, all that. Then I would go pick up the split can and hand it to them and say, fix it...make it better. It was very appatrent they could not. Then I'd say, this is real, this is not TV. This is what would happen to your brother or mommy if you shot them. Dont Do It! And the kids learned very well to be gun safe.

This might upset you and I'm sorry if it does, but the fact is that I was letting them keep loaded handguns on their bedroom by the time they were 10 or 11. We had already had a lot of small game hunting under our belt by then and I learned to trust them. They never let me down either. They would get into knock down drag out fights, and neither one ever picked one up or threatened anyone with one. I remember one time that they (made me so proud!) had friends over, and one of the kids called me to their room. He said, I'm not totally sure that my friend is trustworthy with guns, dad. Can you hold all these until after they leave because...I do have to go to the bathroom sometimes...(and not be able to watch the friends). Now those kids are gunproof. Because I did take it seriously.

I even taught them that when their playing with toy guns...to not point them at anyone who was a non-combatant in their game. Some people take offense to that, and rightly so in todays world. So sorry if I answered off the cuff and upset you Sister. I prolly should have realized that, most people are not so thorough about teaching their kids to be safe.


As long as they were properly trained with guns, then I absolutely have no problems with it. I do believe that the real problem here is that even if you filled a child's brain with all of the stranger safety knowledge, it could still be really rather easy to harm that said child.
 

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As long as they were properly trained with guns, then I absolutely have no problems with it. I do believe that the real problem here is that even if you filled a child's brain with all of the stranger safety knowledge, it could still be really rather easy to harm that said child.
Idk, maybe not. Because the younger the child, the closer is the parent, right? That's how it is (was). Every kid should know gun safety even if the parents are not into guns and don't own any. Because eventually the kids will go to a kids house where that kid pulls his dad's 357 out of the sock drawer to show off to his buddies. So even not being a gun owner will not keep kids safe from guns. That did happen to my kids too. But they already knew how to react and stuff.

I was able to make the momma come to the shooting range too, all the time when they were younger. Because I said, hey how am I supposed to watch two kids at once with guns? You can't so one adult/parent for each kid...it worked, bwahahaha Lol. She got really good too. Better than me and I aint half bad. I had her hitting gallon milk jugs of water at 100 yards, with a pistol. A 5-1/2" Ruger 44 Magnum, with iron sights! Almost every time. She is scary good with pistols.
 

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There is something to be said about being over-protective too. Some parents think it is their primary responsibility to protect their children. Others, such as myself, believe it is our primary purpose to teach them how to protect themselves. As parents, it isn't possible to be in constant 24/7/365+ supervision of our children. They will get on their own and when they do they need the tools (knowledge) to be able to handle situations that arise. Some day they will be on their own either because they become an adult or the parents die. Then what? If they haven't been given to tools to survive and be responsible adults, they will be in trouble one way or another.
 

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There is something to be said about being over-protective too. Some parents think it is their primary responsibility to protect their children. Others, such as myself, believe it is our primary purpose to teach them how to protect themselves. As parents, it isn't possible to be in constant 24/7/365+ supervision of our children. They will get on their own and when they do they need the tools (knowledge) to be able to handle situations that arise. Some day they will be on their own either because they become an adult or the parents die. Then what? If they haven't been given to tools to survive and be responsible adults, they will be in trouble one way or another.


Oh yes trust me I know. I just think there should be a fine balance between being a helicopter parent and a responsible parent.
 

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Oh yes trust me I know. I just think there should be a fine balance between being a helicopter parent and a responsible parent.
Your title for this thread is that you would never let your children do this. By "do this" your opening post suggests letting them be alone. You don't specify what age the children in your OP were so we don't really have a basis to work from either. You also indicate there was a busy street nearby but how busy? To an over-protective parent, 1 car per hour could be considered busy but to an irresponsible parent 100 cars per hour may be considered light. One must keep things in perspective.
 

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We have to learn to trust our children too so they learn to trust themselves. When they are raised by over-protective parents, it is quite possible, they would be subject to easily falling into the wrong things when they do get on their own such as going off to college and so on. They will not have learned how to take care of themselves and so they fall victim to what is offered and don't consider the consequences. They don't learn how to say, "No!" for example.
 

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Your title for this thread is that you would never let your children do this. By "do this" your opening post suggests letting them be alone. You don't specify what age the children in your OP were so we don't really have a basis to work from either. You also indicate there was a busy street nearby but how busy? To an over-protective parent, 1 car per hour could be considered busy but to an irresponsible parent 100 cars per hour may be considered light. One must keep things in perspective.


They were definitely older kids but there's a difference between leaving your kids home alone or playing outside alone and leaving them in public alone. At least if you leave them home alone they have the proper equipment to protect themselves and their house from robbers. Okay sorry, I couldn't help but make that joke. :lol
 

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There is something to be said about being over-protective too. Some parents think it is their primary responsibility to protect their children. Others, such as myself, believe it is our primary purpose to teach them how to protect themselves. As parents, it isn't possible to be in constant 24/7/365+ supervision of our children. They will get on their own and when they do they need the tools (knowledge) to be able to handle situations that arise. Some day they will be on their own either because they become an adult or the parents die. Then what? If they haven't been given to tools to survive and be responsible adults, they will be in trouble one way or another.
My dad told me when I was young that...you want to be careful who you hang out with and associate with. If you hang out with the losers, you're going to be a loser too! The druggies, you'll be a druggie. You don't have to be that guy. Don't associate with them. Find a better classd of people to hang out with.
 

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My dad told me when I was young that...you want to be careful who you hang out with and associate with. If you hang out with the losers, you're going to be a loser too! The druggies, you'll be a druggie. You don't have to be that guy. Don't associate with them. Find a better classd of people to hang out with.
Same here. What I always appreciated by not having over-protective parents was that I learned to have the confidence to not just go along with the crowd. I didn't easily give in to peer pressure.
 

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Same here. What I always appreciated by not having over-protective parents was that I learned to have the confidence to not just go along with the crowd. I didn't easily give in to peer pressure.
I didn't either. I had my own ides, lol! Geez, I should prolly be dead by today's standards. I grew up riding bikes and horses without a helment (Lol), we was allowed to roam the countryside with guns. Rifles and stuff. Nobody ever got shot. No one got hurt. A Sheriff pulled over one time when me and my two brothers was walking down the road and all of us were sporting rifles. He didn't pull over to hassle us or lay some political garbage on us, he wanted to see our guns. Said they looked nice and he was thinking about getting his son one and was trying to get ideas...Checked them out and thanked us said those are some fine rifles, boys...Lol!
Ahh, the good ol' days!
 

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