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John 10:28 - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

While this seems quite straight forward, many simply do not see anything about eternal security in what Jesus said.

So, this thread will provide a hypothetical example to illustrate what Jesus was actually saying.

In this example, there is a doctor, which relates to Jesus Christ. (biblically accurate as well, since Jesus is the Great Physician - Matt 9:12, Mark 2:17).

There is a patient, which relates to a person needing healing from illness.

There is an elixir, which relates to the gift of eternal life.

Here is the example.

The Doctor tells the patient that he has an elixir that will heal him and he WILL NEVER become ill again.

If this were true, and the patient took the elixir, then he would NEVER GET ILL AGAIN.

Notice a few things: the doctor didn't tell the patient what ELSE he must do in order to never get ill again. Nothing about diet change, specific exercises, or anything else. Doing these things is tantamount to what the conditional security crowd tell people how to "stay saved":
must continue to believe - continue to take the elixir
must repent of EACH sin

In the example, simply taking the elixir results in NEVER GETTING ILL again.

In the SAME WAY, those who receive the gift of eternal life WILL NEVER PERISH.

The point of this thread and example is that the condition for NEVER GETTING ILL again is to take the elixir, and nothing else.

The point is that the conditon for NEVER PERISHING is to RECEIVE eternal life. Not whatever is REQUIRED after that, as the conditional security crowd always adds.

So, the point of John 10:28 is that what Jesus does AT THE BEGINNING OF one's faith will result in that person NEVER PERISHING.

The conditional security crowd simply misses this extremely important point.

While there is no such elixir, that if taken, will result in never getting ill again. We all know that. But if it wre trure, then one who receives the elixir will never get ill again.

In the same way, when one receives the gift of God, eternal life, they are PROMISED that they WILL NEVER PERISH.

Jesus added no conditions following receiving eternal life.

Eternal life is received on the basis of believing the gospel. There are no further conditions to be met to avoid perishing.
 

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John 10:28 - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Who is them?

Everyone in the world?

If this were the only verse in the Bible then I would be on the OSAS bandwagon.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7


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Who is them?
Those who have believed. They are the one who receive eternal life. Jesus said so in John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Notice the present tense "HAS" regarding eternal life.

Everyone in the world?
Of course not.

If this were the only verse in the Bible then I would be on the OSAS bandwagon.
So, this indicates an acknowledgement that the Bible DOES teach eternal security. :)

However, given your acknowledgement, the FACT that you don't believe in eternal security, your views regarding Scripture are severely conflicted internally. Resulting in much confusion in your approach to Scripture.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".
Incorrect. Jesus NEVER said that was a "condition to being a sheep of His". You've misread the verse completely.

Jesus clarified who is saved (meaning HAS eternal life) back in v.9 of ch 10 - I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.They will come in and go out, and find pasture.

Did you past through a gate in order to be saved? If so, you should be able to explain what Jesus meant by "enters through Me (the gate)".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
A general description of His sheep. Certainly NOT a requirement for being His sheep.

One becomes one of His sheep by entering through Him, the gate. v.9

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.
I keep seeing this opinion, but no evidence from Scripture.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7
This has been thoroughly explained, although the better passage is the prodigal son. It's about the dynamics of the relationship between father and son. When the son left, fellowship was broken, lost, dead. When the son confessed and repented, fellowship was restored, and said to be "alive again".

I think everyone has a good understanding of what broken fellowship means and looks like, as well as restored fellowship.

Once again, the Bible doesn't use the terms "Father" and "son" randomly. Just as the PHYSICAL relationship between parent and child CANN BE BROKEN, so the SPIRITUAL relationship between God and His children cannot be broken.

What CAN be broken in the PHYSICAL relationship between parent and child is FELLOWSHIP. The same for the SPIRITUAL relationship between God and His children.

How about addressing the example given in the OP. It parallels exactly what Jesus said in 10:28. Your attempted deflection was noted.

The point is that what Jesus says about those who receives eternal life is that they WILL NEVER PERISH.

Which is exactly the same thing Paul was noting in Rom 8:38 about there being "nothing in the future" which can separate us from the love of Christ.

I'm very sorry that there are those who claim to be Christians who actually believe that a child of God, who has been given eternal life could ever end up in the SECOND DEATH and consider that not to be a separation from the love of Christ.

No one has shown any verse that speaks of revoking or losing eternal life. None. There are no verses.

Anyway, I look forward to anyone who can "unpack" my example, if possible.
 

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Those who have believed. They are the one who receive eternal life. Jesus said so in John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Notice the present tense "HAS" regarding eternal life.

Yes eternal life is always "now" based on the condition of believing and remaining "in Him".

Those who believe for a while, are no longer fulfilling the condition by which eternal life is granted.


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Anyway, I look forward to anyone who can "unpack" my example, if possible.
Is has been unpacked, and thoroughly dismantled and shown to be a man inspired theory.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7



Lost = Sinner without God in need of repentance.



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Are you guys really going to do this again? How many times do you repeat the same thing over and over and over and over and .... before you finally realize that you will never come to a mutual agreement? Since this topic is one where tempers and attitudes can't seem to be kept in check, I will issue this warning. Keep this discussion clean and respectful or it will be shut down promptly.
 

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I said this:
"Those who have believed. They are the one who receive eternal life. Jesus said so in John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Notice the present tense "HAS" regarding eternal life."
Yes eternal life is always "now" based on the condition of believing and remaining "in Him".
Which Scriptures claim the basis for having eternal life is "remaining in Him"??? I've not seen such a verse. Please advise.

Those who believe for a while, are no longer fulfilling the condition by which eternal life is granted.
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The only condition for receiving eternal life is to believe in Christ. And Jesus Himself taught that WHEN one put their faith in Him, they HAVE eternal life.

So John 10:28 indicates quite clearly that there are no subsequent conditions for NOT PERISHING.

Once eternal life has been received, according to Jesus, the person WILL NEVER PERISH.

That's the whole point of the thread.

Or, for those who disagree, please provide the evidence within Jesus' words in John 10:28 where He specified any further conditions. I haven't found any.

He was very clear: those He gives (beginning of one's faith) WILL NEVER PERISH. That's a promise that there are NO additional conditions to fulfill.

If there were additional conditions in order to NEVER PERISH, why didn't Jesus specify them in John 10:28? He would have been negligent if there were more conditions.
 

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Is has been unpacked, and thoroughly dismantled and shown to be a man inspired theory.
Claims without any evidence.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Please show where in ch 10 (or anywhere else, for that matter) that following is a condition for getting saved. I've already shown from 10:9 what the single condition is for being saved: to enter through Him, who is the gate.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.
All sinners are born lost. Which Jesus came to save.
Luke 19:10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost.

Lost = Sinner without God in need of repentance.
Yes, all sinners are born without God and in need of repentance. No argument.
 

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Are you guys really going to do this again? How many times do you repeat the same thing over and over and over and over and .... before you finally realize that you will never come to a mutual agreement? Since this topic is one where tempers and attitudes can't seem to be kept in check, I will issue this warning. Keep this discussion clean and respectful or it will be shut down promptly.
This thread provides a new example that parallels what Jesus said in John 10:28.
 

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The point of what Jesus said is this: for those He "gives eternal life" to, they will never perish.

iow, He makes no further demands or places any further requirements on those who have believed for eternal life.

Once they receive it, He has promised that they WILL NEVER PERISH.

The only way to refute this is to provide verses that plainly say that salvation can be lost, or that eternal life isn't irrevocable.

Without such verses, Jesus' statement in John 10:28 is clear. There are NO CONDITIONS after receiving eternal life for not perishing.

Since eternal life is given at the moment of faith in Christ, or at the beginning of one's salvation, what Jesus said indicates that there are NO FURTHER CONDITIONS TO BE MET to avoid perishing in the lake of fire.
 

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I said this:
"Those who have believed. They are the one who receive eternal life. Jesus said so in John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Notice the present tense "HAS" regarding eternal life."

Which Scriptures claim the basis for having eternal life is "remaining in Him"??? I've not seen such a verse. Please advise.


The only condition for receiving eternal life is to believe in Christ. And Jesus Himself taught that WHEN one put their faith in Him, they HAVE eternal life.

So John 10:28 indicates quite clearly that there are no subsequent conditions for NOT PERISHING.

Once eternal life has been received, according to Jesus, the person WILL NEVER PERISH.

That's the whole point of the thread.

Or, for those who disagree, please provide the evidence within Jesus' words in John 10:28 where He specified any further conditions. I haven't found any.

He was very clear: those He gives (beginning of one's faith) WILL NEVER PERISH. That's a promise that there are NO additional conditions to fulfill.

If there were additional conditions in order to NEVER PERISH, why didn't Jesus specify them in John 10:28? He would have been negligent if there were more conditions.

Do you consider "lost" to refer to someone who is saved?



I said this -

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7



Lost = Sinner without God in need of repentance.



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The point of what Jesus said is this: for those He "gives eternal life" to, they will never perish.

iow, He makes no further demands or places any further requirements on those who have believed for eternal life.

Once they receive it, He has promised that they WILL NEVER PERISH.

The only way to refute this is to provide verses that plainly say that salvation can be lost, or that eternal life isn't irrevocable.

Without such verses, Jesus' statement in John 10:28 is clear. There are NO CONDITIONS after receiving eternal life for not perishing.

Since eternal life is given at the moment of faith in Christ, or at the beginning of one's salvation, what Jesus said indicates that there are NO FURTHER CONDITIONS TO BE MET to avoid perishing in the lake of fire.

You have missed the point. If John 10:28 were the only scripture in the bible, then you may have a point, but since it's not then you have to consider the whole counsel of God.

His sheep can become lost, or "disconnected" from Him.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7

Lost = Sinner without God in need of repentance.


again -

“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:1-6


In Him = Eternal Life

Removed from Him = cast into the fire and burned.




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Do you consider "lost" to refer to someone who is saved?
No. What would give anyone that erroneous idea?

I said this -

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
I will repeat: Jesus wasn't giving "conditions", but a description. The difference isn't difficult to see.

The condition was laid out clearly in v.9 in that chapter. I've already given it.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.
Still not addressing the point of the OP. Which is this: there are no additional conditions or requirements for those given eternal life that will result in NEVER PERISHING. Nothing else.

Jesus said: I give them eternal life, and they WILL NEVER PERISH.

It is on the basis of receiving eternal life that they WILL NEVER PERISH.

If salvation can be lost, then Jesus was less than honest in what He said. If there ARE further conditions or requirements AFTER receiving the gift of eternal life, this was the IDEAL AND PERFECT TIME to say so.

But He didn't add any such conditions or requirements.

Therefore, the ONLY REQUIREMENT for NEVER PERISHING is to receive the gift of eternal life.

So, instead of "Once saved always saved", how about this:
Once eternal life is received, one WILL NEVER PERISH.

Which is just what Jesus said.
 

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You have missed the point.
I still believe that you have.

If John 10:28 were the only scripture in the bible, then you may have a point, but since it's not then you have to consider the whole counsel of God.
What I've shown from John 10:28 is that from Jesus' own mouth, there are NO OTHER REQUIREMENTS OR CONDITIONS to be met in order to NEVER PERISH.

So, to "never perish" ONLY requires one to receive the gift of eternal life. There is nothing else to do in order to "never perish".

His sheep can become lost, or "disconnected" from Him.
The mixing of metaphors and parables is a scrambled message.

If I'm wrong, then what's needed is for someone to show from John 10:28 that there ARE more conditions or requirements in order to NEVER PERISH. Are there? No, there are not.

If one who has received the gift of eternal life does end up perishing in the lake of fire, then Jesus simply LIED.

That's the conclusion from your views. He said NEVER PERISH.

So, if anyone does perish, He's a liar. That's a pretty rough view to hold.

Again, if there were additional conditions or requirements in order to avoid perishing, John 10:28 was the perfect place to say so.

Yet, Jesus didn't add anything.

To those who have received the gift of eternal life, THEY WILL NEVER PERISH.

It couldn't be said more simply and clearly than how Jesus said it.

But since you've disagreed, please show me from John 10:28 what the other conditions or requirements are in order to avoid PERISHING.

I would greatly appreciate it.
 

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How about a new player to chat with. Since I like to look at context, let's throw up all of John 10 [NIV] for reference:

The Good Shepherd and His Sheep

1 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.


7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[fn] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.


11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.


14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”


19 The Jews who heard these words were again divided. 20 Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?”


21 But others said, “These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”


Further Conflict Over Jesus’ Claims

22 Then came the Festival of Dedication[fn] at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”


25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[fn]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”


31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”


33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”


34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’[fn]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.


40 Then Jesus went back across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptizing in the early days. There he stayed, 41 and many people came to him. They said, “Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.” 42 And in that place many believed in Jesus.
 

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John 10:28 [NIV] - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

While this seems quite straight forward, many simply do not see anything about eternal security in what Jesus said.
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The point is that the condition for NEVER PERISHING is to RECEIVE eternal life. Not whatever is REQUIRED after that, as the conditional security crowd always adds.
So, the point of John 10:28 is that what Jesus does AT THE BEGINNING OF one's faith will result in that person NEVER PERISHING.
The conditional security crowd simply misses this extremely important point.
While there is no such elixir, that if taken, will result in never getting ill again. We all know that. But if it were true, then one who receives the elixir will never get ill again.
In the same way, when one receives the gift of God, eternal life, they are PROMISED that they WILL NEVER PERISH.
Jesus added no conditions following receiving eternal life.
Eternal life is received on the basis of believing the gospel. There are no further conditions to be met to avoid perishing.
I'm not part of the "conditional security crowd", so I'll pass on those parts. Just some friendly conversation for clarification of terms and ideas.

How do we know from John 10:28 that there are no conditions prior to being given eternal life? I am only pointing out the limitations of a single verse of scripture.

I would like to hear some words that tend to get slung around broken down clearer if you feel like it. You mention "saved" and "believing the gospel" and "eternal life", and I'd like a better understanding of what YOU mean by these words.

For example, "eternal life" can't mean never dying, because people die all of the time. So I can't already have THAT sort of eternal life.
What is "believe" and what exactly do we need to believe?
What part does faith play and what is this "dead faith" that James warns about? (James 2:17,26)
 

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Who is them?

Everyone in the world?

If this were the only verse in the Bible then I would be on the OSAS bandwagon.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29


Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Those that follow for a while, then become lost, are likened to sinners who are lost and need to repent.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7


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You answered yourself and they are the followers of Jesus that have poured themselves out and have been indwelt with the Holy spirit. (John 10:27-29)
 

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27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. John 10:27-29

Here is the condition to being one of "His sheep".
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Respectfully, that isn't really worded as a condition in that passage. It would be a condition if it said something closer to "You are my sheep if you hear my voice and follow me" which fits with a verse like: John 8:31 [NKJV] Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed."
In this case, it reads more like a simple statement of fact about His sheep. Jesus has a personal relationship with his people (we hear His voice and He knows us) and because of that relationship, we follow Him (unlike the goats or wolves in sheeps clothing or those who are not His sheep).
John 10:26 [NKJV] But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
 
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