[_ Old Earth _] Is evolutionism compatible with the Bible?

[Cygnus]

Some has posted there that...evolutionism is completely compatible with the Bible.

I ask, how so?

 

[Knotical]

It's not. Simple as that.

 

[Cygnus]

It's not. Simple as that.

I agree. I suppose I'll have to wait for a Theo-Evo to step up to the plate.

 

[Knotical]

I agree. I suppose I'll have to wait for a Theo-Evo to step up to the plate.

I don't think you will have to wait too long if there is a certain barbarian nearby.

 

[Cygnus]

I don't think you will have to wait too long if there is a certain barbarian nearby.

Barbarian has never show that/how it's possible. He applies a form of circular logic...kinda assumes because we have variation of great complexity.....it must have evolved.
All his examples are bacteria or chemical. Typically trends that pre-existed or de-evolved.

Never has he or any other believer in evolutionism shown how so few so-called beneficial mutations have the ability to occur again and again, many many times in an organism progeny effecting the DNA responsible for the morphological trait.

 

[Cygnus]

I don't think you will have to wait too long if there is a certain barbarian nearby.

Barbarian has never show that/how it's possible. He applies a form of circular logic...kinda assumes because we have variation of great complexity.....it must have evolved.
All his examples are bacteria or chemical. Typically trends that pre-existed or de-evolved.

Never has he or any other believer in evolutionism shown how so few so-called beneficial mutations have the ability to occur again and again, many many times in an organism progeny effecting the DNA responsible for the morphological trait.

 

[Knotical]

Barbarian has never show that/how it's possible. He applies a form of circular logic...kinda assumes because we have variation of great complexity.....it must have evolved.
All his examples are bacteria or chemical. Typically trends that pre-existed or de-evolved.

Never has he or any other believer in evolutionism shown how so few so-called beneficial mutations have the ability to occur again and again, many many times in an organism progeny effecting the DNA responsible for the morphological trait.

You're preaching to the choir here. I have always dismissed evolution as an unproven theory, and tend not to get into debates about it.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

I think there are some pretty intresting observations and evidance in the studies of evolution. But I just correct the wording to myself. From "things evolved this way" to "things were designed this way." Seems to work every time without making me lose intreast or question the explainations I know from the bible.

The explainations that don't work with this trick and do question the bible have to have strong evidance and not be heavy in explainations with little evidence. So far this too holds up.

 

[Barbarian]

As Christians have known for a very long time, there is nothing in science, including evolution, that is incompatible with scripture. People have spent a lot of effort trying to find something, but it always falls apart under examination.

As you have seen here.

You're preaching to the choir here. I have always dismissed evolution as an unproven theory,

All scientific theories are unproven. Science, being inductive cannot give you logical certainty. It can only give you enough assurance that it's right to make it foolish to deny it. This is how humans have to live our lives here. We aren't given the rules of nature, so we have to infer what they are, from watching examples.

Nevertheless, nothing else humans can do works better.

And it might be useful to review what "theory" means in science. It's not what you seem to think it means.

 

[Cygnus]

As Christians have known for a very long time, there is nothing in science, including evolution, that is incompatible with scripture. People have spent a lot of effort trying to find something, but it always falls apart under examination.

As you have seen here.

Barbarian you keep claiming it's compatible...but when asked NEVER show how it goes hand in hand with Genesis. Why is that? How is forming Eve from Adams rib compatible with evolutionism? Would you like to add to the discussion and show us how..why...evolutionism s compatible?

 

[Barbarian]

Barbarian you keep claiming it's compatible...but when asked NEVER show how it goes hand in hand with Genesis.

Already showed you. Nothing in Genesis denies anything in evolutionary theory. If you can find something, show us, and we'll talk about it.

Why is that?

Because it's your assertion that there is a conflict and you haven't been able to show us one.

How is forming Eve from Adams rib compatible with evolutionism?

Remember "evolutionism" is something you guys invented. But why would a parable be incompatible with science?

Would you like to add to the discussion and show us how..why...evolutionism s compatible?

Evolutionism is your baby, so all the conflicts with that are your problem, not mine.

 

[Cygnus]

Already showed you. Nothing in Genesis denies anything in evolutionary theory. If you can find something, show us, and we'll talk about it.

Barbarian...I could easily accuse you of something that would get this post deleted...and I would be correct....

I've posted NUMEROUS times about Adam being created from the dust then Eve from his rib. THAT ALONE DENIES EVOLUTIONISM.
There are several other verses I could present.....but why waste my time? You don't really believe what the Bible actually says.
1 Tim 2:13....For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. Evolutionism would deny that.

 

[Barbarian]

Barbarian...I could easily accuse you of something that would get this post deleted...and I would be correct....

I know you believe very strongly in your new doctrine of evolutionism. But it's not the same thing as evolutionary theory, and you are constantly confusing the two.

I've posted NUMEROUS times about Adam being created from the dust then Eve from his rib.

I get that. You're convinced that God would never use parables. Most Christians disagree with you. Which is not to say that you aren't a Christian, too. You've just got a particular difference with the rest of us.

THAT ALONE DENIES EVOLUTIONISM.

But since "evolutionism" is your invention, that's not our problem. Evolutionary theory does not rule out parables or even miracles.

There are several other verses I could present.....but why waste my time?

You don't really believe what the Bible actually says about the way life and man began, but fortunately for you, it doesn't remove you from the Body of Christ, and it doesn't threaten your salvation unless you make an idol of creationism or your doctrine of "evolutionism."

1 Tim 2:13....For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. Evolutionism would deny that.

Your new idea of "evolutionism", perhaps. But evolutionary theory has no problem with it.

 

[Cygnus]

I know you believe very strongly in your new doctrine of evolutionism. But it's not the same thing as evolutionary theory, and you are constantly confusing the two.



I get that. You're convinced that God would never use parables. Most Christians disagree with you. Which is not to say that you aren't a Christian, too. You've just got a particular difference with the rest of us.



But since "evolutionism" is your invention, that's not our problem. Evolutionary theory does not rule out parables or even miracles.



You don't really believe what the Bible actually says about the way life and man began, but fortunately for you, it doesn't remove you from the Body of Christ, and it doesn't threaten your salvation unless you make an idol of creationism or your doctrine of "evolutionism."



Your new idea of "evolutionism", perhaps. But evolutionary theory has no problem with it.

Are you that incapable of understanding evolution and the way I use evolutionism...are the same?

 

[Cygnus]

You don't really believe what the Bible actually says about the way life and man began,

Sorry Barbarian....I read Genesis and like most christians..believe in what is written.

 

[Jim Parker]

Some has posted there that...evolutionism is completely compatible with the Bible.

I ask, how so?

Well, evolutionism is definitely not compatible with your Bibleism.

 

[Barbarian]

Sorry Barbarian....I read Genesis and like most christians..believe in what is written.

You believe your new revision of Genesis. But that isn't Genesis.

 

[civilwarbuff]

No, of course it is a revision....someone snuck in the middle of the night and re-wrote Genesis in every bible in existence.....just to confuse us all......

 

[Cygnus]

You believe your new revision of Genesis. But that isn't Genesis.

Eve was made from Adams rib.....tell me how I revised that.

 

[Cygnus]

Well, evolutionism is definitely not compatible with your Bibleism.

Is Eve being formed from Adams rib....bibleism?