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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-11/nigerian-churches-targeted-in-deadly-attacks/4063290

A suicide bomber has blown his car up outside a church and gunmen opened fire on another service in Nigeria, killing three people and wounding dozens.

A purported spokesman for the Boko Haram Islamist group claimed responsibility for Sunday's attacks and threatened further violence.


"We are responsible for the suicide attack on a church in Jos and also another attack on another church in Biu," the spokesman, who called himself Abul Qaqa, said in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri.


"The Nigerian state and Christians are our enemies and we will be launching attacks on the Nigerian state and its security apparatus, as well as churches, until we achieve our goal of establishing an Islamic state in place of the secular state."


Just another in the list of atrocities committed by Allah's children in the name of "peace."
 
And in Syria...

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/world-news/detail/articolo/siria-syria-15868/

Syria’s ultimatum to Christians: “Leave Qusayr"

The message sent out by the military chief of the armed opposition has spread panic and lead to a Christian exodus

vatican insider staff

Fides sources have reiterated that groups of Salafi Islamic extremists within the armed opposition consider Christians as “infidelsâ€; they confiscate their belongings, carry out mass executions and are ready to declare a “denominational warâ€.

And from this link...

The Maronite Archbishop Samir Nassar intervened on the situation in Syria saying «When it's time to make important decisions for our country, the Christian minorities amount to very little. It is a situation that forces us to avoid "annoying" the government and does not allow us to do anything but suspiciously watch the protests going on, which will most probably lead to the establishment of an Islamist regime».
 
In fairness, it should be pointed out that people ascribing to all major religions have committed great evils including murder, in the name of their faith. I don't denounce Islam because of the actions of these people per se... just as I can't denounce Christianity because of that idiot in Norway who killed all those kids on that island.

Where it shows a problem is the acceptance of the act by the larger faith community. While most faiths, even the more radical fringe groups, immediately denounce and distance themselves from such atrocities, too many in the Islamic community celebrate them and promote a version of their theology that the perpetrators will be rewarded for it.
 
While most faiths, even the more radical fringe groups, immediately denounce and distance themselves from such atrocities, too many in the Islamic community celebrate them and promote a version of their theology that the perpetrators will be rewarded for it.

Yep.
 
In fairness, it should be pointed out that people ascribing to all major religions have committed great evils including murder, in the name of their faith. I don't denounce Islam because of the actions of these people per se... just as I can't denounce Christianity because of that idiot in Norway who killed all those kids on that island.

Yep.
 
The notion of a "moderate Muslim" - just like unicorns and fairies - is a myth. Where are the voices of outrage from all those peace-loving moderates who denounce such atrocities?

(Cue the crickets.)

Why no moderate voices raised in opposition from all those "moderate, peace-loving Muslims?" At best, it's because they are cowed by the extremists in their religion, afraid that the same fate would befall them that befalls all others who cross the Islamists.

At worst, it's because they believe in what their "extremist" counterparts are doing, and support them through their silence.

In either case, news of another church bombed or more Christians killed by Islamists is greeted with silence and tacit approval from Muslims.

Islam has been at war with the west almost since it's inception. We should expect no less from people who see Jihad as their only sure path to paradise.
 
Islam has been at war with the west almost since it's inception.

I ignore most ignorance but this one gave me a little internal chuckle / facepalm. How many countries are invading and occupying Western countries, may I ask? Is it the Iraqis who are occupying American soil, or perhaps it's Palestinians who are occupying the land of European Jews? Or maybe the Afghans are occupying the land of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation nations? No, no... Maybe the 2 million French killed by the Algerians - or wait, was it the other way around? The Italians and the Libyans, the Spanish and the Moors, the British and the Indians - all these ring bells?

If there exists a mentality of victimisation among any of these peoples and others, then there is no smoke without fire. This is not to condone any evil action - two wrongs most certainly do not make a right - but your one-sided view is contrary to objectivity.
 
Where it shows a problem is the acceptance of the act by the larger faith community. While most faiths, even the more radical fringe groups, immediately denounce and distance themselves from such atrocities, too many in the Islamic community celebrate them and promote a version of their theology that the perpetrators will be rewarded for it.

Very well said. :clap
 
If we look at this Biblically, we should not be suprised at the resurgence of Islam, for the LORD said, Twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. Genesis 17.18 We were also told that Ishmael will be a wild man; his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him. Genesis 16.11 I believe what we are seeing now in the 6:00 news is the culmination of the enmity. Sarah and Hagar could'nt stand each other, and neither do their children tolerate each other. Fortunately for us, the everlasting covenant was estblished between GOD and Isaac, which by extension includes Christians. I guess what I'm trying to say is, everything is hapening today just as the LORD told us it would be. Bless the LORD.
 
I ignore most ignorance but this one gave me a little internal chuckle / facepalm. How many countries are invading and occupying Western countries, may I ask? Is it the Iraqis who are occupying American soil, or perhaps it's Palestinians who are occupying the land of European Jews? Or maybe the Afghans are occupying the land of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation nations? No, no... Maybe the 2 million French killed by the Algerians - or wait, was it the other way around? The Italians and the Libyans, the Spanish and the Moors, the British and the Indians - all these ring bells?

If there exists a mentality of victimisation among any of these peoples and others, then there is no smoke without fire. This is not to condone any evil action - two wrongs most certainly do not make a right - but your one-sided view is contrary to objectivity.

Talking of ignorance, you refer to the west as being te invaders into countries......
Hello, look at France 437 + special ethnic zones, zones steeped in Islam, where for example when a mosque caught fire, the Muslims stoned the fire brigade trying to put it out.
Look at Germany, where they need to call on Turkish police to come and help to control some Islamic saturated suburbs, because lawlessness was so out of control.. This is all information freely available.
Look at the U.K when they move into an area they saturate it, at a particular point of saturation of numbers they publicly declare the area Islamic and encourage non Islamist out.
Now here is the spiritual side, when they enter an area that they want, they practice supernatural Shia law to take the area spiritually first, this most often includes there prayer walks around area during the day. At night between the hours of 10:30 pm and 4 am they go through people's yards with small platform ladders carrying out there demonically oppressive rituals. They also go to Selling people's properties and carry out occult acts, around the property to enable them to get more favourable terms, lower prices for example. If they want a particular property they will set about to try to harass those people both demonically and physically, such as wheelies out front banging fences, cursed objects thrown, placed in property.

Tell me who's invading who???
Last of all and most importantly prayer for their salvation, God is love. It's a call to warfare to the church. Who will stand up in this hour? Jude 22 praying in tongues building yourself up in your most holy of faiths......
 
Talking of ignorance, you refer to the west as being te invaders into countries......
Hello, look at France 437 + special ethnic zones, zones steeped in Islam, where for example when a mosque caught fire, the Muslims stoned the fire brigade trying to put it out.
Look at Germany, where they need to call on Turkish police to come and help to control some Islamic saturated suburbs, because lawlessness was so out of control.. This is all information freely available.
Look at the U.K when they move into an area they saturate it, at a particular point of saturation of numbers they publicly declare the area Islamic and encourage non Islamist out.
Now here is the spiritual side, when they enter an area that they want, they practice supernatural Shia law to take the area spiritually first, this most often includes there prayer walks around area during the day. At night between the hours of 10:30 pm and 4 am they go through people's yards with small platform ladders carrying out there demonically oppressive rituals. They also go to Selling people's properties and carry out occult acts, around the property to enable them to get more favourable terms, lower prices for example. If they want a particular property they will set about to try to harass those people both demonically and physically, such as wheelies out front banging fences, cursed objects thrown, placed in property.

Tell me who's invading who???
Last of all and most importantly prayer for their salvation, God is love. It's a call to warfare to the church. Who will stand up in this hour? Jude 22 praying in tongues building yourself up in your most holy of faiths......


Ah, this is all information freely available? Please, find me the information for the above highlighted. And weighed against the murders akin to what I wrote above, I don't think you have a leg to stand on.
 
Seeker, his point is a good one. Muslim immigration to European nations and their general unwillingness to assimilate to the societies has resulted in heightened tension. These nations have had to enact legislation specifically to combat the overwhelming impact on their way of life. Afghanistan was once a primarily Christian nation. Look at it now!

European nations that don't want to be another Afghanistan will be wise to take measures into their own hands today. I don't see any other group of people doing to whole countries what Muslims do. They flood the society, do not assimilate, and have a higher birth rate than the populous that they move in on. Then come the laws and the new way of life.

"The result is a 4,000-mile belt of tension, running from the western entrance to the Mediterranean, across the Balkans and right into central Asia. Throughout it, Muslims are pushing to the north or west, either as economic emigrants or, in some cases, by force. In what was once Soviet Asia, the Muslim-dominated states are expelling Russian Christians. South of the Caucasus, Muslim Azerbaijan is seeking to destroy Armenian Christian enclaves. In southern Yugoslavia, Muslim population growth is squeezing the Orthodox Christian Serbs out of their old heartland of Kosovo. This in turn is leading the Serbs to seek to gain territory to their north by invading and occupying parts of Catholic Croatia.

In addition, almost all European countries now have substantial populations of Muslim immigrants, who form non-assimilating, concentrated communities with high birthrates, often adopting aggressive attitudes toward their hosts. The result is internal tension."

www.articles.latimes.com/1991-12-18/local/me-390_1_muslim-world
 
The covenant with Isaac includes Christians? Where did you get that from?
if YHWH didnt make that covenent with the hebrews there would be NO christ thus NO christians! that promise to abraham is indeed a messianic one as abraham is the father of jesus in the flesh and jesus being a hebrew is indeed the means by which all nations are being blessed in isreal. i know my jewish kin will disagree but as a christian and saved jew the promises to us are in that book. isreal and christ are tied together. god will not forgot isreal. if he does then theres no messiah and no plan of salvation!
 
How many countries are invading and occupying Western countries, may I ask? Is it the Iraqis who are occupying American soil, or perhaps it's Palestinians who are occupying the land of European Jews? Or maybe the Afghans are occupying the land of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation nations?

One does not have to occupy a nation to be at war with it. I would've thought a smart guy like you would have known that.
 
if YHWH didnt make that covenent with the hebrews there would be NO christ thus NO christians! that promise to abraham is indeed a messianic one as abraham is the father of jesus in the flesh and jesus being a hebrew is indeed the means by which all nations are being blessed in isreal. i know my jewish kin will disagree but as a christian and saved jew the promises to us are in that book. isreal and christ are tied together. god will not forgot isreal. if he does then theres no messiah and no plan of salvation!

When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. Revelation 1:17-18 (NASB)

"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 44:6 (NASB)

"Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. "Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens; When I call to them, they stand together. Isaiah 48:12-13 (NASB)

"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Revelation 22:12-13 (NASB)

The "first and last" of Revelation is the "first and last" of Isaiah and He has a name: Jesus Christ, not Isalm's "Allah."
 
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