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Peace be with u all. Just joined, my user name is what we are needing. Beyond measure do we need physical help. Its great to have people
pray for u, but somewhere along the line we need physical help. We need someone to come to help us where we r, because this area needs physical help along with us. And we need restoration because of what we r living and experiencing along with this area. I don't mind helping others, but I have overhelped others and now I and my little family of Lord Jesus Christ, my son and I need the physical help and as I am also aging I need physical help, and I am also living a faith like no other. There has to be a balance in the giving and receiving at present, otherwise its unjust, and God is just, and 2 Cor 8 is what we r believing and living. There is no going to this one or that one to ask, this person or that one, because we have done that already. 2 Cor 8 needs to be for all believers, not just some but for all. We r hoping that we can find our 2 Cor 8 family here. At least we r believing for one person to come that wants to come as a mission, because we also live in a mission field. The helping can be interactive and its meant to be. We r also living a particular life that at present we are called into rest, however our physical needs had led me to come here and ask. We r also in urgent need. I will participate when I can in this forum.
 
Hello Need Physical Help and welcome to the forum.
I'm sorry to read about your distress. I can't offer any physical help as I live in the UK.
What kind of physical help are you needing?
Do you belong to a church, and if so do they know of your needs?
 
Thanku for want to help and explaining to me ur situation. The physical church is problematic in our fields and in my life as well. And I don't need to share at this time, because Lord Jesus Christ is dealing with it. Also our medical is not ok either.

We are disabled and God chose us for the fields, we go where there is no help and He brings the help , cause He knows we can't do it at all. We need him, beyond measure do we need him. We need farm help, a small acerage, that has been neglected and needs to get some basic farm needs done, like help with fencing, handyman work, decluttering, some basic plumbing would be good. But also welding. We have people do this professionally here, but they are inundated. And if u want something done u have to wait. And we are talking ages u have to wait. This house has been through a situation that needs a lot of small repairs. There are things I can do and things I can't. We also have horses that are just wonderful, we need help with them. I have one pair of hands, and I have 7 horses to deal with. And I need to get my teeth taken out, they have needed to come out for ages. They haven't been able to come out, because of the disabled and injured situation I am in along with the problem in the medical. And the neglect and negligence I have had to put up with because of misunderstanding. And the surgery for my son, in 2011 it was urgent then, its now 2020 and we went to have this surgery this month, but because what our nation has been through and because of the corona virus and all things outside of all our control, the hospital has been silent again. We can't travel still because of fire. But also our disablement.

I also have specialist problems along with how people treat me. A lot I can't help its outside of my control.

There are also problems here that God is going to deal with, its just a matter of when and us being able to cope with it. And at present we are not ok. And then we watch God make it ok. Leave u with that. The distress u pick up is not just a my distress its an everybody and everything distress that I am inudated with. Our fields are not ok.
 
Lord Jesus Christ is moving into our situation. Have been shown we are now at the distress of nations time along with great complexities. Enormous amounts of rest is going to be needed. I am not going to be interacting with people at this time because I can't. But I am going to be resting here in this ministery in this community. And will participate when I can in the way I can hopefully in the time to come. We as a nation have just been through the outrageous and the amount of work we have to do is beyond measure. Especially since we have just been through disaster after disaster. And sometimes its a lot more stressful writing about it than it is actually living the outrageous. Our situation is beyond measure. He has giving it to me what we need to do, sometimes its easier said than done. And then He moves and it becomes easy because He is the one doing it. He has connected me to here for His good reason and we will get to know people over time hoepfully when our situation is sorted out. But for now we have an outrageous disablement and situation to get through that we need to be focused on. Our area is still on fire but the monster fire that was near us is out. And we still need the physical help. So I am hoping we will get our helping physical hands. But I also know if we are here in this area, we have to stand on our own two feet as well. Take care and thanku for taking the time out to read this post. and if u reply thanku very much, I appreciate it.
 
Hell Need Physical Help and welcome to the forum. I am mentally disabled myself so I must say that I don't completely understand what you're going through, but I will go ahead and pray that God gets you through it which I know that He will. :)
 
Praying for you. As the Lord helps you as He will lead and guide you. He is the Great Healer and Physician. Hope you can get the help you need. And may need to seek a second or third opinion there.
As remember get a doctor or a specialist that also seems to want to care and has the best bedside manners. Praying for you and your son. Just leave it to the Lord!
 
Thanku all so much. Lord Jesus Christ is moving and has given me the answers and flows it forth. He has sent to me ministering angels but they are just ministering to me internally not in my injury where it is most needed where He has deemed I am being ministered to. These are our silent helpers they don't say a word. But they move and bring forth strength. In other words ministering angels. Which are God's ministers in the earth.

And I am being reminded to be strengthened with might in my inner man. I also come upon the problem of why we can't get physical help. Because people are tired of being asked by others to help them. When they are in need of help themselves. But I am going to believe for it and trust in the Lord and wait upon Him. That He will help all and the problem goes and its solved. People get off their toosh to physically help those in need. Because when it doesn't happen it breaks trust and causes crisis mode.

I joined two other forums that deals with writing. Its to help me deal with my upset with writing but also with other people that share the same problem. When u r a writer and u can't get an audience. Because there is no audience for u, there is no point writing. However I realised that not only do I write for God, but also I help others with literacy problems and communication disorders.

So u end up becoming the audience and part of God's audience and also come upon people that also have no audience to listen to them so u become their audience. And he is resting me. And I joined a crisis forum for our nation, and they told me they can't physically intervene, but they can be a support to us in the way they can. So I work on communication problems with them. At present healthy communication is needed. And that is what I have asked them to help me with. Because isolation can be amazing but also can be a problem.

My problem is with the doctors, specialist, health industry. Medical, academics, alternative health at present. When the health is not healthy and trust is broken. I was made disabled at the expense of others in other words corruption. The mature part of me has made peace with it, the immature part of me hasn't but is learning to as I complete a peace journey like no other. And where I am is a mission field in my nation. I am also a mission field on my own. What we have access to is limited. And if we are sent to anywhere we have to travel. We are talking hours and it can take the whole day just to see someone for 30 to 45 minutes. Oh and when u travel just for a 15 minute appointment, thats a blessing. Or they say their is nothing they can do. So thanku again. Thanku for welcoming me by praying and going to Lord Jesus Christ. And everyone have a lovely day. And thanku. God is getting me through and giving me a huge amount of much needed patience.
 
Yes Tessa u r right it is Job. Particularly this verse "If a man die, shall he live again?
All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come?" Job 14:14.
My strong faith is not the problem and then it is the problem. In the physical part of life do I have trouble. Too much has been expected of us. Too much is expected of me. We r simply not Ok. Now the invisible change does come, but the physical change is problematic. Why is it that some people can get all the physical help they need and others can't? The physical help is simply not going to where it needs to go to. Its the result of neglect and negliegence. Its Oppression, its not God.
 
Simply put I am going to do what I can and leave what I can't. And we will see what happens. Our area and region and nation are not ok either. And what we have been through the physical was absolutely horrible. There is no other words for it. We r still living with fire and our monster fire is out, but the other ares in our region are not out yet. Still burning. Despite all the rain we have had. For the last six months I can't tell u what we have had to live with. And when ur abled body they don't cope, but u r disabled internally and their ignorance about ur needs, I can't tell u how awful, horrible, terrible it is to go through. There are no words, just a silence that u can not express, and the invisible cry goes on day and night and its silent
 
Hi Need Physical Help and welcome to CF.:wave2

I too deal with disabilities and it is hard to do things you once were able to do and enjoy doing without any problems. My main issue is that I can no longer walk or stand for very long due to a back injury. I use to ask God why I never received His healing like some others have and while searching the internet God gave me twenty reasons why that opened up my understanding and have never questioned Him again as this list has helped me tremendously in my walk with the Lord.

Why God allows us to go through trials and tribulations:
1. Training as God prepares us for the future
2. Patience as we rely and trust in God's timing
3. Perseverance through trials that we remain in Gods will
4. Trust as God's ways are not our ways and He has a better plan for us
5. To learn from our mistakes
6. To humble ourselves before Him
7. To discipline us
8. Teach us to be dependent on Him alone
9. To spend quiet time with God so He can speak to us
10. To teach us of His protection
11. That we also share in the sufferings of Christ that we be not ashamed
12. Strengthen us to become more like Christ
13. To develop character
14. Build up our faith in the Lord
15. For a testimony and witness to help others
16. To show us sin in our lives that we need to own up to having
17. To remind us that God is in control
18. Helps us gain knowledge and understanding God's word
19. Teaches us to be thankful
20. To take our mind off the things of the world and and put them back on God


All I can offer is prayer and the power that is in prayer that can move mountains. Many prayers have gone up to God over the disastrous fires in Australia and the desperation of building up that which has been taken away not only physically, but emotionally and Spiritually. I also pray that with you reaching out to others for help that God will place this on someones heart that is looking to go to the mission field as God calls them. Your faith in God is at a time of great testing and I can see by what you write that you are trusting with great patience and you are an overcomer as God gives you the victory.

Looking forward to see you sharing in the different forums and that we get to know you as being a part of the unity of our family here.:)
 
Yes Tessa u r right it is Job. Particularly this verse "If a man die, shall he live again?
All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come?" Job 14:14.
My strong faith is not the problem and then it is the problem. In the physical part of life do I have trouble. Too much has been expected of us. Too much is expected of me. We r simply not Ok. Now the invisible change does come, but the physical change is problematic. Why is it that some people can get all the physical help they need and others can't? The physical help is simply not going to where it needs to go to. Its the result of neglect and negliegence. Its Oppression, its not God.
I'm so sorry for your problems.
We all experience these types of problems..
but, your right, for some it's easier than for others.
I see so many older folk living alone and with no help.
And, of course, where you live , should not decide -
whether you live or whether you die.

We live in an imperfect world.
We're in God's hands---truly.
You're in my prayers, but where is the help HERE?
God help us all.
 
Yes there's an end to everything, God knows how much you can take and change can come.
A few months ago I was talking about your country to someone. They told me that when a visitor's visa runs out they don't have to leave the country to renew it any more. Instead they can work on a farm for a period of time

Is there any way you can find information about that?
I think you are wise to say you will do what you can and see what happens. You haven't forsaken God and He will not forsake you.
Your faith amazes new. My heart, love and prayers go out to you.k
 
Tessa, Oh my gosh, Yes and amen. Thanku for calling me family. I am acknowledging their is so much help needed everywhere beyond measure. When u r part of the help and support for not only the body of Christ and the nations and this earth, but u get exhausted beyond measure. When we have a different christianity, ministery here and others don't understand what that is. There is problems here, with people being able to access help. Their looks like their is help, but in the end, u have to stand on ur own two feet. We have just done a deliverance like no other, so it is coming. We were exhausted with nothing left, ages ago. In drought and now thats been sorted out, where I live it looks paradise now. So it didn't come near us, but its close to us. And we had to be evacuated twice. I had to say goodbye so many times to our home, and horses and area, and not expecting to return. We live near and have lived near a fire super monster. Its the one that two firies from USA died in the helicopter crash. We mourned for them. They came as heroes and they left as heroes, and we will not forget them. Its a thanku for the help our nation has received. But we also have been on the receiving end of neglect and neglience and robbery. Our fields have been robbed beyond measure. Our life has been drained away from us beyond measure. The church has been absent beyond measure. Humanity has been absent beyond measure. There is more work here than we can cope with or handle. But we are going to learn and its get off ur toosh time.

And our nation also has been on the receiving end and inundated with so much anger coming towards, beyond us beyond measure. Two words neglect and negligence describes what we have lived with for ages. We have had to deal with things that we are just on our own. But Lord Jesus Christ has dealt with them. Everyone of it.

Things are changing around. We got treatement from our medical and doctor, that was amazing. I said to my son, if we had been treated like that all along, would be in the situation we are now in. And he said No. We have the possibility of help coming to us, but its a possibility. We have trained and equipped others, only to have them leave and go else where. And we are done.

I am getting of my toosh. We r going through as a nation disaster after disaster after disaster we have been through so many things in a very short period of time. The latest is a train crash in our region. That was last week. So we are going to be going to the next town and walking around there and in that area. They copped worse than us in the fire. Its a matter of going there to find out what the need is and then trusting in God to meet it. But turning a light on. But also going to a place my son loves to go to, they have great pies in the bakery, so he tells me. I can't eat them. We are going to go before he goes to surgery. And we wait until the corona virus is over, because that is the hospital they put a person in.

Yes I am going into other areas of the forum, cause needs to come to a rest. Probably the support and recovering. Because our nation is in recovery mode we are also meant to be the support as well, even though our areas in our region still on fire. I am looking forward when I get to see no more smoke. I can't tell u how it amazing it was to see the mountains again, for a time, we saw nothing but smoke and grey skies. But we also can't forget those apocalyptic skies we went we got through it and remained calm. What we went through is coming for everyone else, we just went through it first. What Lord Jesus Christ is showing me, disaster response needs to improve for everyone, so this is going to be a help in that. Those super fires we went through created its own weather, and weather patterns and affected everyone in the end, created its own storms and it made people realise this is something new they did not know about fire. We also realise that smoke went beyond us. And New Zealand were affected by it as well. What happens here affects them. We don't like that happens, but it happens. We also know it doesn't make them happy either.

Even though I went through my moments, I still ministered through it, and was to led to us, that got rebuked. They came up from canberra, but we can't pretend to be happy with them, when the church hasn't lifted up a finger in our fields. The charities here as well. We are not happy with majority of them. And its not for no good reason.

And the backpackers are being used to raise up an army to help rebuild the farms and towns that were affected by fire. But only there. And the firies when they come home, if they are farmers, are now having to catch up on their work. We have six months of catch up to do. Getting help becomes a ministery on its own inundated and that is what has come, we are inundated with work. We are inundated with ministery. We have had enough of the hoarding up in one area at the expense of another. We are tired of the multitudes that are hoarded up in some areas and not going into other areas. For me, how I know Lord Jesus Christ is, he is God that believes in on the job training. Anyone that wants to come and help, we will offer a room to stay, u will get fed and looked after u get trained equipped, and anything else, we just need physical help. U can do outreach, we will love u, we will treat u like family, we will go out of the way for u to come into where u need to be in Christ, but we also need that balanced and the toll on my physical body is beyond measure. . We are on a pension, we don't get supported from our government, except the pension and that pension is really good so we are grateful, we also give back to our nation in other ways, we don't get supported from the churches we are on a pension. But I do rely upon God. A lot of the time, what the problem is people are not trained to deal with the disabled. And that needs to change. It takes years for people to understand our disablement. That is also the doctors and professionals. They have to learn. My doctor is now getting it, because they needed to and wanted to get it, but we had to wait years for that.

We just have a different christianity, a different ministery, a different life, a different way of seeing things. We are just different, yet the same. Things are going to be changed cause we have had enough. But I am also now ready to go, I went through my hmmm moments, now I am ready,. Love to all.

This area has always has trouble getting the help needed. And people have to learn to stand on their own two feet, or with the local belief u have to earn ur right to live here. This home I am living was delivered out from a domestic violence situation. We are still there for that family. we had to do a rescue. Now its looking like paradise. So it feels weird.

Leave it there.
 
You are part of us here at the forum. Your brother's and sisters here will be praying for you both
You have said that your ministry is different. It would be really interesting to know more about it. In what way is it different?
 
Back Again, I had confirmation from the Lord for u and u can help us from where u r. And we can help u from where we r. The ministery and witness we know, can be done anywhere, anytime, at any place, by any believer, any person, in any geographical location. In our ministery, we don't care what u look like, what u wear, u can wear ur pyjamas if u like. I do, when I am not out and about.
The confirmation is the agreeing witness of God. Which is based upon where two or more of u come into agreement and ask in my name, I shall do it, and also the earth witness of God, the blood, the water and the spirit, these three agree in one. I am going into the recovery forum, because that is where we r in our process. So invisible Koala hugs to u. And I can meet u in there, but all who else will come, its the more the merrier. As long as people are prepared to come into agreement, in other words, Amen.

I also went over to the other town and met the woman at the well, who told me so much about the situation, probably more than I needed, nevertheless we listened and heard. See u in the recovery forum.
 
As I have done lots of international mission work and trips...
What you are looking for takes time to set up. Usually with a mission organization from America.
Smaller groups can but it takes them longer.
Let me explain the timeline.

First a person who is a trusted and knowledgeable scout goes to visit you in your location. (This is after you have filled out an application form and all questions answered satisfactory) Sees and assess the needs and desires of the area. Then leaves.
Then comes back to America and goes into a community and visits several churches seeking volunteers.
Meanwhile back in your town you are making preparations of gathering tools, materials, and equipment necessary as well as securing food and housing for the visitors.
A date is set for the people to come. Travel arrangements need to be secured. They will be there for a week. One of those days (at the end) needs to be a rest and relaxation day where the people can enjoy the luxuries of the country and access the tourist shops. Travel arrangements for all during the week need to be secured for the volunteers to and from the work site and the location where they are being housed and fed.

All this planning takes about a year to set up from the time the first visitor comes to visit to the help actually arriving. (Usually a team of ten people)

I'm an electrician, I can do a long hard days work...been doing them. But I also consume lots of food and water when I work like that. Much more than normal. Also we are American, so that means special care needs for extra sanitation. What you are used to consuming can possibly make these visitors sick. Not necessarily so...but care must be taken. I'll never forget that glass of fresh squeezed orange juice on a hot day...it tasted great. But it made me very very sick.

Help can come...but it's a long process. Shorter term can happen with an established organization that is set up already for these things. Carpenters for Christ, Doctors without Borders, and etc.
 
Thanku for sharing with me about how u do missions. We do it in the classical way that Lord Jesus Christ did it from the beginning of time until now. It needs to be understood by you or who is coming as well. Which means communication and sharing before you come. And this is also our home for the moment.

Did Jesus get his disciples to fill in paperwork? smiles. I also understand the need to fill in the paperwork and administration. Australians don't like their paperwork. They don't like forms, I have had to learn to appreciate forms, I am still learning. All the excess paperwork we have to deal with, ends up mulching my garden.
Its great for the soil, to put back, what has been taken out.

Yes I know help to come takes time, and then it can also come quickly as well. The living and accommodation when the person comes can be talked about as we know each other. Because there is a lot to get through. Better to learn bit by bit. And we need to consider appropriate sharing, because of the internet is not always a trusted place and space to share info.

However there is a little space and place that is just being used as storage, could be rennovated and it could be their very on space and place of who comes. In the time to come this small living area could be done up and used to accommodate visitors.

As for offering drinks to workers, u get bottled water, if u want energy drinks, then they can be bought when we go shopping or what u would like within reason. The person that will come will just live our life with us, like having a guest or a visitor come stay with us. While this little neglected home gets the help it needs. We have hopes for this place.

I also have my white card which is an owners builders one, we need to rebuild. But anyone that is to be used they have to meet the governments requirements and standards. Which means council standards as well.

For us its like this, what needs to be done. Alright lets get in and do it. And we do it.
If we can't do it now, then alright lets talk about it, how we can do it and what we need to do. What we need for it and we take it to Lord Jesus Christ. Then it is a matter of when. And we choose a day and we stick to it. Unless there is some crisis that pops up or we are in a national disaster, then we do what is need to be done. And we only talk about it once.

If there are problems they get solved and we all achieve what needs to be done. And Lord Jesus Christ gets the credit in the way that he gets the credit and would like. At the moment we are in John 2, where he didn't need people to testify of him cause he knew what was in man and he wouldn't commit to them. However we are hoping for our helper and a time where we can come into commitment and have our family. If not, then we will have it in eternity according to God's will.

Accommodation can pose a problem. at times and there is a housing shortage and crisis, which is made worse now, because of the fires. This area is developing and people are also building in this area. The requirement and need for trades people is high. But there is standards people need to meet as well. So its not just one way. But we also have ideas of what we can learn, and also plant, too. They are wonderful, but there not much point if it is just me.

We also live in a normal 3 bedroom house, my son has his own studio shed out the back, which he really likes. I don't mind sharing my space and place, as long as the one I share with, can be trusted. I don't mind sharing what I have and have been given and blessed with. I also value generosity, however it has to be balanced. If something needs to be gotten, then I will provide if I can, if I can't I will say so.

I work alone but I also can work with people, as long as they take my disabilities into consideration and are willing to work with me. Extra sanitation needs, you have to be more specific on what you mean about extra sanitation needs. Also don't expect me to cook, its not that I don't want to, I can't. My son cooks, and he is a wonderful cook, so I have been told. Other people have eaten his food, and they tell me. I don't know, because I can't eat his food. We can't eat together.

I am just happy to have help from one person. Let alone ten, my gosh, a team. I had hopes for a team of people in the 2000s to come help me do ministery when we were in a revival. We are still waiting for our team and I am now retired, I went into an early retirement. So I have learnt what patience means, and still learning. Australia values patience. And whoever comes needs to learn, and if something needs to be done, then we have to learn it, and live it and do it.

That is it for now.

NPH
 
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