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Bible Study Luke 14v26

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Hey can someone please explain this verse to me, I dont understand it Thanks

If any man come to me, and hate not his father,and mother and wife,and children,and breatheren and sisters, yea,and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple

Does this mean we have to hate everybody?
 
Some heretics teach that we must ACTUALLY hate our parents and families. Our love for God must make our love for everyone else seem like hatred in comparison.
 
goliwog man said:
Hey can someone please explain this verse to me, I dont understand it Thanks

If any man come to me, and hate not his father,and mother and wife,and children,and breatheren and sisters, yea,and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple

Does this mean we have to hate everybody?
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No...

Look at the Greek text...


ei tiV ercetai proV me kai ou misei ton patera eautou kai thn mhtera kai thn gunaika kai ta tekna kai touV adelfouV kai taV adelfaV, eti te kai thn yuchn eautou, ou dunatai einai mou maqhthV.




Verse 26
Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament

Hateth not (ou misei). An old and very strong verb misew, to hate, detest. The orientals use strong language where cooler spirits would speak of preference or indifference. But even so Jesus does not here mean that one must hate his father or mother of necessity or as such, for Matthew 15:4 proves the opposite. It is only where the element of choice comes in (cf. Matthew 6:24) as it sometimes does, when father or mother opposes Christ. Then one must not hesitate. The language here is more sharply put than in Matthew 10:37. The ou here coalesces with the verb misei in this conditional clause of the first class determined as fulfilled. It is the language of exaggerated contrast, it is true, but it must not be watered down till the point is gone. In mentioning "and wife" Jesus has really made a comment on the excuse given in verse Matthew 20 (I married a wife and so I am not able to come). And his own life also (eti te kai thn psuchn eautou). Note te kai, both--and. "The te (B L) binds all the particulars into one bundle of renuncianda" (Bruce). Note this same triple group of conjunctions (eti te kai) in Acts 21:28, "And moreover also," "even going as far as his own life." Martyrdom should be an ever-present possibility to the Christian, not to be courted, but not to be shunned. Love for Christ takes precedence "over even the elemental instinct of self-preservation" (Ragg).



The passage is about prioritization in your life. Is God really first?


~serapha~
 
goliwog man said:
Hey can someone please explain this verse to me, I dont understand it Thanks

If any man come to me, and hate not his father,and mother and wife,and children,and breatheren and sisters, yea,and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple

Does this mean we have to hate everybody?
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It means your love for God must come first. It does mean to literally hate your family members or yourself it just means you can't love your family members and yourself more than God. God doesn't settle for second place in anybodies life. So if when it comes to your worship of the True God if something or someone takes the place of your worship of the true God then you can't be Jesus disciple. Jesus has always taught especially by example that God and your worship of him must come first and foremost in a person's life.
 
BB1956 said:
It means your love for God must come first. It does mean to literally hate your family members or yourself it just means you can't love your family members and yourself more than God. God doesn't settle for second place in anybodies life. So if when it comes to your worship of the True God if something or someone takes the place of your worship of the true God then you can't be Jesus disciple. Jesus has always taught especially by example that God and your worship of him must come first and foremost in a person's life.
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BB, why have you resurrected a 20 year old thread, rather than start a new one?
 
BB1956 said:
It means your love for God must come first. It does mean to literally hate your family members or yourself it just means you can't love your family members and yourself more than God. God doesn't settle for second place in anybodies life. So if when it comes to your worship of the True God if something or someone takes the place of your worship of the true God then you can't be Jesus disciple. Jesus has always taught especially by example that God and your worship of him must come first and foremost in a person's life.
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Exactly. This is why Jesus said,

For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother; and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death:
but ye say, If a man shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is Corban, that is to say, Given to God; ye no longer suffer him to do aught for his father or his mother; making void the word of God by your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things ye do.
Mk.7:10-13

God doesn't need our help at all. People need our help. The only love God gets from us is when we're truly thankful for everything and if we are we'll let this world know it,

Even so let your light shine before men; that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. Mt.5:16

You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel. Pa.22:3

Here's something I saw a few days ago,

the LORD said to Moses: “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat. Lev.16:2

Aaron brings the cloud God sits on with him,

Then he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from the altar before the LORD, with his hands full of sweet incense beaten fine, and bring it inside the veil.
“And he shall put the incense on the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of incense may cover the mercy seat that is on the Testimony, lest he die. Lev.16:12-13

Incense being symbolic of the prayers of all the saints, it makes perfect sense.
 
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