Bible Study Luke 5:37-39 Young wine into New wineskins/bottles

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I have always been fascinated with this covenantle analogy/parable.

When I started look at the Greek of these verses, particularly in Luke 5, I noticed there are 2 different Gk words used for "new and young" [most Bible versions do not distinguish between them. Will talk about that later, as I feel it is a very important difference]

I can look at the "young" being compared to those coming into the NC, such as newer Christians/Jews.
The "Old" would symbolize the Mosaic OC.
I would like to discuss this in more detail in this thread.
1st the verses:

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon - EliYah Ministries

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

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3501. neos a primary word; "new", i.e. (of persons) youthful, or (of things) fresh; figuratively, regenerate:--new, young.
2537. kainos new (especially in freshness; while 3501 is properly so with respect to age:--new.
779. askos as-kos' from the same as 778; a leathern (or skin) bag used as a bottle:--bottle.

Luke 5:37 "And no one is casting young<3501> wine into Old<3820> skins<779>, if yet no surely shall be ruined the young wine of the skins, and it shall be being poured out and its skin shall be perishing. 38 but young<3501> wine into New<2537> skins is to be cast and both are preserved together. 39 And no one drinking Old immediately is willing young, for he is saying, 'for the the Old is kind/mellow'". Matthew 9:17 Mark 2:22]
Repeated in Matt 9 and Mark 2

Matthew 9:17 “Neither are they casting young wine into Old wineskins if yet no surely the wineskins are bursting and the wine is being poured out and the wineskins are perishing. But they are casting young wine into New wineskins and both are preserved together.
Mark 2:21 ‘And no one a patch of undressed cloth doth sew on an old garment, and if not — the new filling it up doth take from the old and the rent doth become worse; 22 and no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if not — the new wine doth burst the skins, and the wine is poured out, and the skins will be destroyed; but new wine into new skins is to be put.’

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A vid I found doing Google search.......

Have you ever wondered what our Messiah was trying to communicate in the parable about the #NewWine, wineskins and cloth? Have you ever found this particular parable to be somewhat ambiguous? Test this video's teaching to the Scriptures and see if it lines up with what's taught throughout.

 

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YLT)

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a simile unto them -- 'No one a patch of new clothing doth put on old clothing, and if otherwise, the new also doth make a rent, and with the old the patch doth not agree, that is from the new.
Luk 5:37 'And no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if otherwise, the new wine will burst the skins, and itself will be poured out, and the skins will be destroyed;

Looking back as OT references, we find something similar in vs 13 of this passage in Joshua [which is another name for Jesus].
A good concordance can be very helpful in word/phrase searches and harmonizing.

Genesis 1:1 (YLT)

"new" AND "old" primary search results are listed below along with dictionary aides, FAQs, and Lexiconc.

www.blueletterbible.org

"new" AND "old" occurs 43 times in 14 verses

YLT) Jos 9:
11 'And our elders, and all the inhabitants of our land speak unto us, saying, Take in your hand provision for the way, and go to meet them, and ye have said unto them, Your servants we are, and now, make with us a covenant;
13 and these are the wine-bottles which we filled, new, and lo, they have rent; and these, our garments and our sandals, have become old, from the exceeding greatness of the way.'
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The new vs the old is also mentioned in Hebrews 8 concerning Jesus bringing the NC to Israel:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault, He saith to them, 'Lo, days come, saith the Lord, and I will complete/fully -consummate with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah, a new covenant,
Heb 8:13
in the saying 'new,' He hath made the first old, and what doth become obsolete and is old is nigh disappearing.
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As most Christians are aware, that "old" disappeared in 70ad....[as prophecied in Matthew 24 and OT Prophets].
The NC is now about worshiping in spirit and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, not worshiping in Temples.......

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

History records few events more generally interesting than the destruction of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the Jewish state, by the arms of the Romans. -- Their intimate connexion with the dissolution of the
Levitical economy, and the establishment of Christianity in the world......................

The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins ; and the Roman army as in triumph on the event, came and reared their ensigns against a fragment of the eastern gate, and, with sacrifices of thanksgiving, proclaimed the imperial majesty of Titus, with every possible demonstration of joy.........................
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A few more verses:

2Co 5:17 so that if any one is in Christ -- he is a new creature; the old things did pass away, lo, become new have the all things.
Rev 21:5 And He who is sitting upon the throne said, 'Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, 'Write, because these words are true and stedfast;'

 

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Wine is mentioned a few times in Revelation. 2 verses use both wine and oil concerning the coming wrath on the great City.....

Reve 6:6 denotes famine in Israel and Jerusalem:

Revelation 6:6 And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "a measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring<91>"."

These are all the things used for annoiting and in the OC Temple worship in 1st century Jerusalem:

Revelation 18:13 “and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.

Lev 23:13 ‘Its grain offering shall be two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil, an offering made by fire to the LORD, for a sweet aroma; and its drink offering shall be of wine, one-fourth of a hin.

Pulpit Commentary
And see thou hurt net the oil and the wine.
The corollary to the preceding sentence, with the same signification. It expresses a limit set to the power of the rider on the black horse. These were typical articles of food (cf. Psalm 104:14, 15, "That he may bring forth food out of the earth; and wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart;" and Joel 1:10, "The corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth").

Wordsworth interprets, "The prohibition to the rider, 'Hurt not thou the oil and the wine,' is a restraint on the evil design of the rider, who would injure the spiritual oil and wine, that is, the means of grace, which had been typified under those symbols in ancient prophecy (Psalm 23:4, 5), and also by the words and acts of Christ, the good Samaritan, pouring in oil and wine into the wounds of the traveller, representing human nature, lying in the road." 'Αδικήσῃς ἀδικεῖν in the Revelation invariably signifies "to injure," and, except in one case, takes the direct accusative after it (see Revelation 2:11; Revelation 7:2, 3; Revelation 9:4, 10, 19; Revelation 11:5). Nevertheless, Heinrich and Elliott render, "Do not commit injustice in the matter of the oil and wine." Rinek renders, "waste not."