Mighty Rapture Of The Holy Spirit

[Consecrated Life]

We know from Jesus's Word that the Holy Spirit cannot be present on earth at the same time our Lord is :

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )
We also know that a period of time existed between Jesus's departure and the Holy Spirit's arrival , and that the arrival was marked by sudden sound from heaven, and miracles:
" and suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind and it filled the house
where they were sitting ."
( Acts 2:2 )
And so we know that the Holy Spirit must depart the earth before Jesus can come again .
Given that the Holy Spirit's arrival was accompanied by " mighty " sounds from Heaven , as well as miracles that caused :
" ..all amazed and marveled.." ( Acts 2:7 )
Does it make sense to any Christian here that the Holy Spirit would then depart the earth , as He must if Jesus is to come, without Jesus's children being immediately aware of it ?
For the record it would make no sense to me,and go against Jesus's own Word both that the Holy Spirit cannot be here when Jesus comes and that like the arrival of the Holy Spirit the departure of the Holy Spirit will be a dramatic event accompanied by "mighty " sound from heaven as well as miracles .

 

[Consecrated Life]

This rapturing of the Holy Spirit serves a duel purpose as well , it clears the decks for Satan's seed to advance his program of enslavement on the earth .
Something that could never happen with the Holy Spirit in residence .

 

[JLB]

We know from Jesus's Word that the Holy Spirit cannot be present on earth at the same time our Lord is :

We know from Jesus’s word that the Holy Spirit was present with Jesus throughout His ministry on earth.


When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. Matthew 3:16


Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. Matthew 4:1


But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. Matthew 12:28


Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness.
Luke 4:1





JLB

 

[JLB]

This rapturing of the Holy Spirit serves a duel purpose as well , it clears the decks for Satan's seed to advance his program of enslavement on the earth .
Something that could never happen with the Holy Spirit in residence .

The Holy Spirit dwells in Christians throughout their time here on earth, which is through the end of the age, to the last day when Jesus returns at His coming to gather His people at the resurrection and rapture, and then destroys the wicked.

Including the antichrist.



JLB

 

[Consecrated Life]

We know from Jesus’s word that the Holy Spirit was present with Jesus throughout His ministry on earth.


When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. Matthew 3:16


Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. Matthew 4:1


But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. Matthew 12:28


Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness.
Luke 4:1





JLB

Why did Jesus say that the Holy Spirit would not come unless He left ?

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )

 

[JLB]

Why did Jesus say that the Holy Spirit would not come unless He left ?

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )

Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. John 16:7-14


The baptism of the Holy Spirit, which Jesus called the Promise of the Father, was for Jesus and His ministry while He was on the earth, and would be for those who who follow HI’m, after He was glorified.


And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Acts 1:4-5



JLB

 

[Consecrated Life]

Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. John 16:7-14


The baptism of the Holy Spirit, which Jesus called the Promise of the Father, was for Jesus and His ministry while He was on the earth, and would be for those who who follow HI’m, after He was glorified.


And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Acts 1:4-5



JLB

Yes, but why did Jesus say the comforter would not come unless He depart?

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )
Why was that important ?

 

[Consecrated Life]

With the Holy Spirit coming into the world after Jesus's departure in such dramatic fashion with a " mighty" sound from "heaven" as well as visible miracles that that " amazed " , does it really make sense that the Holy Spirit would quietly slink away back to heaven covertly ?
" ..only he who now letteth will be let , until he be taken out of the way,
and then shall that wicked be revealed ...whose coming is after the
working of Satan. " (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 )

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes, but why did Jesus say the comforter would not come unless He depart?

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )
Why was that important ?

It was important as the disciples could not understand the Spiritual things Christ was teaching them while He was with them as they had no Spiritual understanding as what Jesus taught made no sense to their carnal minds. It wouldn't be until He was taken up and the Holy Spirit sent down by God in order to open their Spiritual eyes and ears as the Holy Spirit taught them and brought those things Jesus taught back to their rememberance before each one began their ministries.

It's the same with everyone today up to the time of Christ return on the last day when we who are still alive at His coming will be gathered up with those who are in their graves to meet Jesus in the air, John 5:28, 29; 6:40; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19.

It's only through the Spiritual rebirth that Jesus explained to Nicodemus in John 3:5-7 that at that time we are indwelled with the Holy Spirit and sealed unto the day of redemption, Ephesians 4:30.

This all happened on the day of Pentecost in the upper room after Jesus ascended up to heaven and God sent down His Holy Spirit to indwell those which were around 3000 that day, Acts 2:1-41. Jesus told His disciples to wait in the upper room as He had to first ascend up to the Father in order for God to send down the Holy Spirit to indwell them and teach them all Spiritual things of what Jesus taught them and also will bring all those things back to their remembrance, John 14:25, 26.

The Holy Spirit indwells all who are Spiritually born again and not just something that floats around down here until Christ returns. The indwelling Holy Spirit is in us and when we are all caught up to Christ on the last day when He returns the Holy Spirit goes back to God as we will ever be with the Lord.

 

[for_his_glory]

With the Holy Spirit coming into the world after Jesus's departure in such dramatic fashion with a " mighty" sound from "heaven" as well as visible miracles that that " amazed " , does it really make sense that the Holy Spirit would quietly slink away back to heaven covertly ?
" ..only he who now letteth will be let , until he be taken out of the way,
and then shall that wicked be revealed ...whose coming is after the
working of Satan. " (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 )

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

It is God who withholds the son of perdition/last antichrist/false prophet until His timing of the seventh trumpet in the end of days when the beast out of the sea (the great harlot) gives it's power to the beast out of the earth (mystery Babylon). The beast out of the earth is the son of perdition who will reign here on earth for 3 1/2 years causing all to take its mark or die a martyr's death that he might be revealed in his time. Then the great harlot and mysterious Babylon will be revealed and then destroyed on the last day by the brightness of Christ coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Rev 13; 17; 18; 19; 2 Thessalonians 2:8.

 

[Susannah]

In one of these posts it says that more information will come from the Holy Spirit. This has been my experience. So why do people say everything we need to know is in the Bible.

 

[for_his_glory]

In one of these posts it says that more information will come from the Holy Spirit. This has been my experience. So why do people say everything we need to know is in the Bible.

What more information could possibly come that God has not already told us about from Genesis to Rev as all the mysteries are revealed to those by the Holy Spirit that teaches us all truths.

 

[JLB]

Yes, but why did Jesus say the comforter would not come unless He depart?

"..if I go not away the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you ,
but if I depart I will SEND HIM unto you ."
( John 16:7 )
Why was that important ?

Because all the fullness of the Godhead, dwells in Him bodily.

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. Colossians 2:9


Once He was glorified and seated at the right hand of God the Father, He would pour out the same Spirit upon the Church.


Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear. Acts 2:33



JLB

 

[Susannah]

You would be surprised how much the Holy Spirit has to say about things not in the Bible. He is still watching us and has things to say about modern times. He goes on and on about Trump, LOL

 

[Susannah]

I will get back in my lane. I just couldn't resist. I use both the Bible and the voice of the Holy Spirit to guide me.

 

[for_his_glory]

You would be surprised how much the Holy Spirit has to say about things not in the Bible. He is still watching us and has things to say about modern times. He goes on and on about Trump, LOL

Can you share with us some of those things the Holy Spirit has told you separate from what has already been written?

 

[Susannah]

The Holy Spirit usually talks to me in short, declarative sentences.

The first words I heard were, "I am real." He was referring to God. This was in 1982.

Next he said, "I love you. You are worthy."

Then, "Surrender to me."

Then, " Help others in recovery."

Long silence . . .

"Go to Cal." This was in reference to going to the University of California at Berkeley and applying for a job. Everyone told me it was hard to find jobs there but I got a job with my first interview. I was taught word processing so I was able to write and edit easily. The school closed down during the summer so I had time to write 4 books.

"Call Cody books." This was in reference to getting my book published. I describe this in my blog article, "My Heavenly Agent." One call led to a publisher who published my first book.

"Everything is going to be allright." This was in reference to getting robbed later that day. I was calm when it happended because I had already heard from the Holy Spirit.

The list goes on, but my most significant message came in 2015 when the Holy Spirit said in essence, "Jesus is more than a prophet. Everything the Bible says about him is real." In other words: Get with the program.

My most beloved message is VERY controversial. Many people have told me it was not from the Holy Spirit. I asked, while in prayer, "Who are you?" A voice in my head, "My name is Spirit and I am a women."

Perhaps this means that the Holy Spirit considers your emotional needs when comforting you. Of course I realize HS has no gender. The HS is spirit or energy.

 

[for_his_glory]

The Holy Spirit usually talks to me in short, declarative sentences.

The first words I heard were, "I am real." He was referring to God. This was in 1982.

Next he said, "I love you. You are worthy."

Then, "Surrender to me."

Then, " Help others in recovery."

Long silence . . .

"Go to Cal." This was in reference to going to the University of California at Berkeley and applying for a job. Everyone told me it was hard to find jobs there but I got a job with my first interview. I was taught word processing so I was able to write and edit easily. The school closed down during the summer so I had time to write 4 books.

"Call Cody books." This was in reference to getting my book published. I describe this in my blog article, "My Heavenly Agent." One call led to a publisher who published my first book.

"Everything is going to be allright." This was in reference to getting robbed later that day. I was calm when it happended because I had already heard from the Holy Spirit.

The list goes on, but my most significant message came in 2015 when the Holy Spirit said in essence, "Jesus is more than a prophet. Everything the Bible says about him is real." In other words: Get with the program.

My most beloved message is VERY controversial. Many people have told me it was not from the Holy Spirit. I asked, while in prayer, "Who are you?" A voice in my head, "My name is Spirit and I am a women."

Perhaps this means that the Holy Spirit considers your emotional needs when comforting you. Of course I realize HS has no gender. The HS is spirit or energy.

OK, I thought you meant prophetic things pertaining to end times.
Yes, in our personal life the Holy Spirit will help guide our path in those areas that God will use us in if we are opened to hear him speak to us.

 

[jerry63935]

the Holy spirit was in the o.t he came upon men-samson today in the n.t the spirit is in us.

 

[Susannah]

path

I did ask the Holy Spirit once about why Americans elected Trump. And she said "There is method in my madness. Have faith."