mp3 players

[baylok]

I am looking into buying an mp3 player, so I can stop lugging CDs back and forth to work, only to realize that I don't have good tunes with me. I am leaning toward one with a large amount of memory/storage (at least 20 gig), and I do not care about an FM tuner or voice recording.

Just wondering what people have, have used, and what your likes and dislikes are.

 

[Vic C.]

:o Whoa! 20 GB! Make sure it comes with decent software. That's a LOT of files to keep organized.

No, I don't own one. I put my mp3's on a cd-rw. My port. cd player handles cd-rw's.

 

[chasing3rain]

I'd go with iPod.

But I don't use an mp3 player as I'm usually listening to the same CD in my car over and over.

Cheers.

 

[Sean]

I have an RCA Lyra, and I absolutely love it. Its incredibly easy to transfer music over. I use the 256mb size, it holds about two and a half hours(I think.). But the nice that about them is that you can buy memory cards to attach more music. Its really nice.

 

[joellark]

iPod, iPod! Get the regular 20/40GB 4th model. Most people complain about the price, but in response to that I just point them to the free one (read about in a Wired magazine article).

 

[Vic C.]

iPod, iPod! Get the regular 20/40GB 4th model. Most people complain about the price, but in response to that I just point them to the free one (read about in a Wired magazine article).

It's not free. You have to rat on your friends by giving away their email addys. I wouldn't do that to my friends. : I also don't like the fact that the iPod's file format is proprietary. I like my good ol' mp3's.

 

[willow the wip]

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[Bryan]

I also don't like the fact that the iPod's file format is proprietary. I like my good ol' mp3's.

The iPod plays good old mp3 files just fine.

It is by far the best portable music player there is. Pricey, yes, but more than worth it.

 

[joellark]

iPod, iPod! Get the regular 20/40GB 4th model. Most people complain about the price, but in response to that I just point them to the free one (read about in a Wired magazine article).

It's not free. You have to rat on your friends by giving away their email addys. I wouldn't do that to my friends. : I also don't like the fact that the iPod's file format is proprietary. I like my good ol' mp3's.

Yea, that why I didn't send them an email.. I just asked around to get my referrals. Free = zero $$

 

[Vic C.]

Yea, that why I didn't send them an email.. I just asked around to get my referrals. Free = zero $$

LOL, good for you.

I also don't like the fact that the iPod's file format is proprietary. I like my good ol' mp3's.

The iPod plays good old mp3 files just fine.

It is by far the best portable music player there is. Pricey, yes, but more than worth it.

Bryan, that's not what I was implying. Read it again. My point was that the iPod files you download are of a proprietary format. You can't play them with your standard mp3 software. (i.e. RealJukebox, MediaPlayer, etc.)

 

[cubedbee]

I think Bryan's point was that there is nothing obligating you to purchase your music from the iTunes store in the AAC format. You can buy your music from places such as Napster or Walmart and download them in MP3 format. And you will still be able to access these songs through iTunes and put them on your iPod. You can boycott the iTunes store and still enjoy an iPod.

 

[Bryan]

I think Bryan's point was that there is nothing obligating you to purchase your music from the iTunes store in the AAC format. You can buy your music from places such as Napster or Walmart and download them in MP3 format. And you will still be able to access these songs through iTunes and put them on your iPod. You can boycott the iTunes store and still enjoy an iPod.

That, and you can convert the AACs to MP3 quite easily as well. Apple sells the AAC online not because you "have to" use it, but because it's the most efficient file format to use. It's higher audio quility than MP3's and it's a smaller file size.

Don't think of it in terms of not being able to use mp3's (because you can), think of it that iPod has a huge advantage over other mp3 players because you CAN use AACs.

 

[Vic C.]

Thanks, I understand it all now. I do have a question. Will Apple allow third party software vendors to write software that does what their's does? In other words...will they allow open architecture?

 

[Bryan]

I'm not sure what you are actually asking. Anyone can make an mp3 player, there's no restrictions on that, and the choices are varied. (Remember, the iTunes software itself is free anyway).

Are you wondering if they'll license out the AAC format?

The AAC is already an open standard, Apple didn't invent it, they just were the first to adopt it. Anyone could make an AAC player if they wanted to, it's just the cutting edge of the technology, and it hasn't caught up yet. Happens all the time with Apple, they always go for the newest and best tech before the general populace is ready for it.

Are you wondering if they'll let anyone else build an iPod clone that will play Apple's iTunes? They already have a deal with HP (you can buy hPods that are identical to iPods right now). They tried to do a partnership with Sony where the iPod, AAC, MiniDisc, iTunes, Connect.com, ATRAC, etc, would all be interchangeable. Sony declined.

Are you wondering if Apple will allow people to play the songs they download off of the iTunes Music Store on players other than the iPod?

Not exactly. Apple's AAC has a DRM "copy protection" built into it to prevent piracy. This protection also makes these files iPod specific, but only at the time of download. You can still burn a CD, and make mp3 files from them to play on other players.

 

[Vic C.]

Are you wondering if they'll license out the AAC format?

The AAC is already an open standard, Apple didn't invent it, they just were the first to adopt it. Anyone could make an AAC player if they wanted to, it's just the cutting edge of the technology, and it hasn't caught up yet. Happens all the time with Apple, they always go for the newest ands best tech before the general populace is ready for it. They invented the PDA 15 years before anyone ever heard of Palm or Blackberry, they made the first comercial digi

Bingo! Thanks. I like my "freedom of choice" when it comes to software and hardware.

:o - I still have 'Novell networking and OS/2 nightmares'! LOL

 

[Bryan]

DOH! You replied before I had a chance to edit the post! I hit reply when I meant to hit preview!

Here's an article that explains the AAC file format a little:

http://www.macworld.com/2004/09/secrets ... /index.php

One more thing to add, the DRM protection that is in AAC files is only on the files you buy off of the iTunes Music store. Any AAC files you rip from your own CDs are completely open and will play on any machine running any application that supports this open source standard. Any files you import such as all your old mp3s, stay as mp3s and are still the exact files playable on any other player.

 

[willow the wip]

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it makes me tired seeing you

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[cubedbee]

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[Vic C.]

LOL...Bryan's first badger post.

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... gers#49401

 

[willow the wip]

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