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Seems you edited before I posted. Maybe my question is not valid anymore?
All i edit was his Kingdom has come. I showed the scripture for the Kingdom. I believe the great white throne judgement is when people repent through baptism because they feel guilty, the book is open and they are standing before the judge. They are guilty through the Law.
 

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Why do people repent?, because the book has convicted them they feel guilty. The Law Christ nailed to the Cross. They were found guilty and went through the white throne judgement. I been there.
 
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Why do people repent?, because the book has convicted them. The Law Christ nailed to the Cross. They were found guilty and went through the white throne judgement. I been there.
I don't guess I've been there yet. Interesting.
 

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I suppose I just cannot see where the book of Revelation has been fulfilled. Too many things that would be very out of place in today's world. Not least of all is the promise of a new heaven and earth.

Either history leaves out such a great event or I completely am missing something. It will be wonderful when all things are fulfilled! To be rid of this body of sin is one of my greatest hopes.
 

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I suppose I just cannot see where the book of Revelation has been fulfilled. Too many things that would be very out of place in today's world. Not least of all is the promise of a new heaven and earth.

Either history leaves out such a great event or I completely am missing something. It will be wonderful when all things are fulfilled! To be rid of this body of sin is one of my greatest hopes.
Depends what way one interprets scripture, if the use two or three witness's and get true understanding and full revelation.
 
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Its like saying im a born again Christian but im waiting for the day of ressurection. How can I say im born again if i dont believe I am yet raised with Christ.

I cannot be born again if i have not been raised. I would be a half born again christian waiting for the ressurection.

"Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come".
 
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Are you saying the resurrection has already happened?
"The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so."

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

Its full of good and evil. It is preached the end of the world and the the new heaven and earth. All is fullfilled. People like to think the devil roams around the world and they have to put on the armor of God and fight it because they dont believe in Christ and its says it in revelation about the devil. Scripture says the devil was destroyed in Christs death that was at the end of the age (world).

"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel"

"Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil,"


"for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."
 
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Okay, Satan has derailed another thread. edited by reba

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Scripture says Christ fullfilled all things at his coming, brought a end to the world(age), defeated the devil in his death, took away the sins of the entire world, and nailed all Law and commandments to the cross. People don't believe it because they dont believe Christ.

If God is unconditional Love and all the sins of the world and all carnal law and commandments are done away with, as scripture says, why do you think other people are evil and look for the evil in people?, God is not judging a single human being, the sins of the world are gone.

Is it a law and command that you judge others, they are evil and you have The truth?.

You know what Jesus called the teachers of the Book. Hypocrites and of there father the devil, and they worshiped the law down to the word.

No ones light is shinning because they dont believe in Christ. I have come to the Truth. God does not judge anyone and the court room is empty, im going to walk in light and walk with God in the Kingdom.

People are judging others still worshipping in babel. The truth is simple. Christ fullfilled. It is finished and people can start walking with God in the Garden the new heaven and earth for what is clean all things are clean.
 
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Christians are judging so much I would rather go listen to a drunk man in a bar. Where is the shinning light. Christianity is judging from the fruit of the serpant, and what Christ called hypocrite.

I only just woken up. Its time for all to wake up. Common. Rejoice and be glad. No one is being judged by God they just have not found the Truth, there not evil people. Looking at the evil in the world is not the Truth and Way if you believe Christ defeated the devil in his death as it is written.
 
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I suppose I just cannot see where the book of Revelation has been fulfilled. Too many things that would be very out of place in today's world. Not least of all is the promise of a new heaven and earth.
Which promise would that be? Which new heavens and new earth? Would you be able to consider for yourself that the new heavens and new earth might not be what you think? It is a problem the carnal mind can not seem to accept. The natural man through science says the earth is millions of years old. The carnal mind of faith denies this, believing the words of a book to set the age at 6000 years. But what the carnal mind does not consider is the physical age of the dirt does not matter. The heavens and the earth that was, was by the decree of God. By His Word, the heavens and the earth were declared. By His Word, the new heavens and the new earth were declared to be.

Isaiah 42:6-9
I the Lord have called thee in righteousness,
and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee,
and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
To open the blind eyes,
to bring out the prisoners from the prison,
and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
I am the Lord: that is my name:
and my glory will I not give to another,
neither my praise to graven images.
Behold, the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them
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Christians are judging so much I would rather go listen to a drunk man in a bar. Where is the shinning light. Christianity is judging from the fruit of the serpant, and what Christ called hypocrite.

I only just woken up. Its time for all to wake up. Common. Rejoice and be glad. No one is being judged by God they just have not found the Truth, there not evil people. Looking at the evil in the world is not the Truth and Way if you believe Christ defeated the devil in his death as it is written.
I am not finding where there is no evil in the world still. It would be helpful if you could answer the following questions very specifically.

When did this "new heaven and earth" begin? When did we receive our new bodies?

If you had a Biblical timeline you could reference that would be great. It would help us all better understand what your trying to say, plus this is the Bible Study forum. :)
 

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Paul’s very clear warning about today’s #1 disastrous doctrine
Is the topic.. lets get back there or start a new thread..
reba
 

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Sorry, I see a squirrel and loose my train of thought.

Squirrel!.........there it goes again. :)
 

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I am not finding where there is no evil in the world still. It would be helpful if you could answer the following questions very specifically.

When did this "new heaven and earth" begin? When did we receive our new bodies?

If you had a Biblical timeline you could reference that would be great. It would help us all better understand what your trying to say, plus this is the Bible Study forum. :)
Scripture clearly says the time of the end was with Christ.
 
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The truth is, the world has rejected Christ and eaten of the serpants fruit that is the law and the devil who sits on his throne in heaven is the judge. God is the light and life and the unconditional loving omnipresent who loves everyone no matter what but the mind has been corrupted.

God and Christ is the life and light, no person can be alive if they don't have Christ in them. He is the life and light.

Its the same story over and over again in the book. All people have Christ and God in them otherwise they would not have life for God is the light and life.

The book is us. The Serpant and Christ live in us. As Paul said do you not know you are the temple of God.

Just like the Pharisees and the entire world we have rejected Christ, and too by being baptized and grafted into the Law.

When we are baptized into Christ we recieve the comforter and have rejected Christ and been buried into his burial and the book was opened and you were found guilty by the judge who sits on his throne. We are in the belly of the beast following the serpant with the rest of the world waiting for Christ to ressurect us, where the whole time just like he walked past the Pharisees and they did not recognise him so have we.

The book is ourselves and our life journey. The serpant within and the light within.

The path is narrow to get out. But once people realise who we are and its just in our mind and heart to walk with God who does not want worship and is not a judge and loves all people unconditional, they will then be ressurected and free and can walk this earth in peace with no judgement and no hatred and just love and peace. The full enlightenment of the truth. Its all in your own mind. The serpant within is teaching you until you come to understand the mystery of God and can walk with God, walk exactly like Christ on this earth.

Few find the path out, yet all are saved.


"Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple (Yoursf)and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst. If anyone destroys God’s temple(Yourself), God (yourself)will destroy that person(yourself); for God’s temple(Yourself) is sacred, and you together are that temple."

Do not deceive yourselves.
 
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