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Willie T

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i am willing to listen with a open mind.. i may not agree but i do not judge...
It's not a matter of judging. (I don't even sweat that with you) It really is that it would take too long to explain (besides people cutting me down before I even got half-way through) that it would be a monumental effort that I honestly don't feel like tackling.

Suffice it to say that the book Come to The Table covers some of it, though I bring it more back to what WE are doing in Communion than that author does (He focuses a lot on what God is doing during our Communion.)
 

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I enjoyed it. I have come to see a lot more about Communion, but he says some good stuff.
I enjoyed how he brings out the idea that just as the alter grounds the table, the cross, which served the same purpose as the alter, also grounds the table.
I've spoken much on this as a monthly table speaker. He really brings out the depth of the table.
 

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OK, I will take a chance, and start very slowly to approach this. But that will come later. Not up to it right now.
 

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Just a reminder as we discuss Holy Communion
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This topic is fine here as it certainly has historical context. Let's then share our views, discuss, but NO debating. :) Yeah, it's a seriously moderated forum according to the forum rules. Which means debating is not okay in any measure. But discussion is.

How to disagree:

Instead of "I disagree" or "that's just wrong"

Say: "The way I have understood it is this way.........:

See? We will have differences because of our difference in backgrounds and traditions.
 

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If I was one who cared about people... the poor, the marginalized, the downtrodden, etc, and knowing I was going to soon die, asked you to "remember me"............ What would you think I meant? Remember that I was not into having people faun over how good and great I was. I always asked you to look out for one another.

I will continue my thoughts after all the heavy-duty Easter activities of today are behind us... probably tomorrow morning. In the meantime we will all have a chance to reread the admonishments given concerning specific behaviors engaged in at the Communion meals the 1st-century church observed. I think THOSE things might really be a major portion of "taking the Lord's Supper unworthily."
 
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In the meantime we will all have a chance to reread the admonishments given concerning specific behaviors engaged in at the Communion meals the 1st-century church observed. I think THOSE thing might really be a major portion of "taking the Lord's Supper unworthily."
I've always read that as community. It will be good to hear your thoughts.
 

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i am willing to listen with a open mind.. i may not agree but i do not judge...
No, on second thought, I won't be saying a word.
In the past few days, I have begun to see a sadly disturbing pattern very rapidly developing in the oppressive censorship here, and I figure that someone is gunning for me, and anything I say will probably get me banned.
 

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No, on second thought, I won't be saying a word.
In the past few days, I have begun to see a sadly disturbing pattern very rapidly developing in the oppressive censorship here, and I figure that someone is gunning for me, and anything I say will probably get me banned.
send it to me email ..i look at this way they want to ban me so be it their loss i have other places to post..i do like the members here better ..but not my first rodeo
 

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the important thing in Communion 1. have your house set in order. 2 treat it in the sacredness it should be took in spirit and truth that is why i oppose every sunday it can turn to a ritual like singing songs
 

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I am a member of a small country Lutheran church. Formerly ALC, merged when the ELCA was formed, and then broke ties with the ELCA a few years ago. We have been an independent congregation ever since. Our pastor, who remained a member of the ELCA in an effort to continue efforts to bring about reform, has recently announced his pending retirement at the end of May. I won't go into details but It was not entirely his choice as there were complications that began to arise over the past year or two and part of his decision came about due to pressure by some members expressing their disapproval of things he has been doing/teaching and things that he was failing to do as our pastor.

In a meeting that I called this past Thursday evening (I'm our council chairperson), we talked about how we should not feel rushed to find a new pastor. Part of the reason is that when we broke ties with the ELCA we had it mind that eventually we would like to be part of another association and so maybe now is a good time to consider exploring that option. We also feel it is important that we wait to allow a little cooling off period and to allow some to mourn the loss of our pastor before we look at calling a new pastor. We decided to look at forming a call committee so we can begin to lay out our needs and expectations with the goal of probably putting out the call sometime late this fall.

In the mean time, it was brought up that we need an interim pastor in part so he/she can administer Holy Communion. This brought up a question in my mind. Does it require an ordained pastor to do this? When I read Scripture, I don't see where it is instructed that this is necessary. As far as I can tell, Jesus just said that whenever we do it we are to it in memory of Him. One thought we had was that we could call on our deacons fulfill this role in absence of a pastor.

For my part, I don't see any reason why we can't.

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absolutely agree - scripture does not mention anyone administering communion

actually scripture speaks of eating a meal and taking the bread and wine as part of that meal

that is what we do at our synagogue - we take bread and wine and a meal together on shabbat

we have also started doing this at wof church too - at church different people lead us in taking bread and wine - so that many get a chance to administer it

(i attend synagogue on shabbat and church on sunday)
 

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