Revelation 11:1-2

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Amazing how Barry said the USA is no longer a Christian nation, even over 70% idenifty as some sort of Christian . If the majority religion was Muslim they would declair it a Islamic republic.

 

[DiscipleDave]

This temple is not a literal temple that John is to measure as there never will be a third one built as the temple mount will never be given back to the Jews and here is the reason why.

Should i keep quite and say nothing, even though i know this statement is not True?

The Third Temple will be built again. To this very day the Jews have all the material ready to make their Temple. You have to understand, without a Temple the Jews can't ask for forgiveness for their sins. So when they die, they do not feel they are going to Heaven because they have no temple to sacrifice for their sins.
The Jews to this day is still waiting for the Messiah to show up. Guess who else is waiting for their Messiah to show up? The Muslims. So guess who fulfills those shoes? The antichrist. When the antichrist shows up, he will be the Jews Messiah, and also the Muslims Messiah. He will be the reason the Muslims and Jews sign a peace agreement for 7 years. This enables the Jews to rebuild their Temple. They will call for all Jews to return to help build it. Which they will return to help. But after 3 1/2 years, the antichrist does something that makes the Jews realize, that he is NOT the Messiah, because he will walk into the Holy of Holies which desecrates it. For only the High Priest is allowed in there once a Year for the sins of the people. But when the antichrist goes in, is when the Jews will realize the terrible mistake they made in thinking he was the Messiah, and the peace agreement is broken. But make no mistake about it, the third temple will be rebuilt.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Paul says in Corinthians that you are the temple and the spirit of God dwells within you. Enough said. Unless people want to argue Paul and go out of the Bible.

For us Christians we know this to be True, but that does not mean the Jews believe that.

If Paul is correct then no other temple is relevant to anyhing. It is finished. God did say he will put his law in the heart, obviously through the Spirit of himself that comes through Christ.

Jesus said in Luke 17

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

After the Spirit was given Paul did not say lol here and lo there, in harmony with Jesus words he said you are the temple and the spirit dwells within you.

Obviously Jesus is talking about after his ressurection when the spirit is given as he's talking future. So unless people want to argue with Jesus, enough said.

All this is True, and is irrelevant to the Jews building the third Temple.

 

[Nathan12]

This temple is not a literal temple that John is to measure as there never will be a third one built as the temple mount will never be given back to the Jews and here is the reason why.

This too is totally false. In Revelation 11, there is a literal, physical temple in Jerusalem being measured by an angel, and it will be desecrated for 3 1/2 years. This corresponds to the prophecies regarding the Antichrist and how he will desecrate the third temple in Jerusalem, where he will set up the Abomination of Desolation (an idol to be worshiped by all the inhabitants of the earth).

 

[DiscipleDave]

There will never be a third Temple built by hands that God will dwell in, Acts 7:48; Acts 17:24.

The Temple that God dwells in, is the Holy City Jerusalem which comes down out of Heaven during the 7th Trumpet blowing.

When the veil of the Temple was torn from top to bottom after Jesus gave up the ghost, Matthew 27:50, 51, this symbolized that the sacrifice of Jesus and the shedding of his blood was now made for the atonement of sin and that all, Jew and Gentile, can come before Him as He is the only way to the Father, John 14:6.

True that is what Christians believe and know to be True, However the Jews don't believe that at all. Therefore the veil being torn means NOTHING to them. So they still desire to build the 3rd Temple, which they will do.

There is no more veil for the Priest to enter into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement for Israel's sin nor is there any more animal sacrifices as we are no longer under the Old Covenant nor the preaching of the law, but are under a new and better covenant of Gods grace through Christ Jesus as our High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. Jesus prophesied of the Temple being desolate and that no one will see Him again until His time comes meaning when He returns on the last day, Matthew 24:1, 2; Luke 13:34, 35, John 6:40.

Again, We Christians know that all this is TRUE, but the Jews who desire to build the Temple don't believe any of that what is said above. All that you said above is irrelevant to the Jews who want to build the 3rd Temple.

God no longer dwells in a Temple made by hands and this is why God left it desolate all these years when it was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. Now the Dome of the Rock sits on part of the Temple Mount and was built around 692 AD. The Muslims will never give it over to Israel, plus the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition to come and sit on his throne and will cause a great falling away from truth, Isaiah 14:12-14; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

The Muslims will give it over to them when their Messiah instructs them to. And remember the Dome of the Rock is NOT as sacred as some of their other sacred places, like Mecca. Not to mention. NOBODY knows the exact location where the 1st and 2nd Temple actually were. It is only speculated that it use to be where the Dom of the Rock is today. The antichrist may shed some light on where it actually stood, and the Jews will build it there. But they will build it, their salvation depends on it (falsely so, but nonetheless that is what they believe)

Jesus fulfilled everything the temple stood for being the last sacrifical lamb taking away all the sin of the world. God no longer dwells in a temple made by hands, Acts 7:48-50; 17:22-31; Hebrews 10:7-18

Christians know this to be True. Jews do not believe that.

Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

All this is TRUE, and most Christians believe it. But the Jews (who desire to build the 3rd Temple) don't believe that at all. So they will build their Temple.

The church, (body of Christ) is the temple where God dwells by His Holy Spirit, Zechariah 6:9-15 (prophecy of coming Messiah); 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17; Ephesians 2:19-22, Galatians 3:19-29.

In 70AD the second temple was destroyed and put an end to the temple made by hands and the sacrifices made there. The Temple of God now dwells in all who are Spiritually born again and indwelled with the Holy Spirit, John 3:5-7; Romans 10:9, 10.

Again, you are right in all that you say, and Most Christians believe what you say above, but the JEWS don't believe what is said above, they don't recognize the words of Jesus as the Messiah. When they commit a sin, they don't repent to Jesus for it, They want a Temple so they can sacrifice animals again (which by the way when they start doing that, the whole world will think they are barbaric and wicked for doing so) But they can't sacrifice any animals for their sins, until they have a Temple, which they already have, it just needs to be built.

 

[DiscipleDave]

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The temple of God in vs. 4 literally means the temple mount where the Dome of the Rock sits on.

So what your saying it is your interpretation that "Temple of God" means temple mount, and can't possibly mean what it says. Is that what you are saying? Tell me should i believe Scriptures which PLAINLY and Clearly says "Temple of God" or believe humans who tries to tell me what it actually means? No offense, but i will choose the Word of God every time over what humans say something means.

In order for a third temple to be built they would have to get rid of the Dome of the Rock, but that is not going to happen.

And how did you arrive at this conclusion? Did God tell you this? Who said they would have to get rid of the Dome of the Rock? It is only speculated that the Temple use to be there, but they do not know where it actually was at. How do you know that in their (the Jews) desire to build a Temple, they don't decide that it was actually to the North of the Dome of the Rock and then decide to rebuild the Temple there, not even where the Dome of the Rock is today. The Jews will rebuild their Temple, who know where, but they will most certainly rebuild it.

 

[for_his_glory]

Nathan12 and DiscipleDave

Give me even one verse out of all the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation where it says a third temple will be built. Sure the Jews have all the things to go into the temple and they can build it wherever they want, but God is not going to honor it as I have already explained.

Like I explained that Rev 11:1, 2 is not a literal temple made by hands, but that of the Spiritual temple of God. It makes no difference to me if you believe me or not, but what I teach comes from scripture and history of the times as no man has ever taught me any of this.

You can not call me out as a false teacher for did you ever think you might be wrong holding onto traditional teachings of man that has indoctrinated the minds of many that call them self a Christian. I gave the whole of the scriptures and it's up to each one to study them and draw their own conclusions.

 

[Nathan12]

Give me even one verse out of all the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation where it says a third temple will be built

One of the current fallacies among Christians is that unless there is an explicit statement about something, they will not believe it. But as a matter of fact, Revelation 11:1-3 makes an explicit statement (which you refused to believe):

I REVELATION
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

1. The word "temple" is mentioned twice in two verses.
2. The temple at Jerusalem ("the holy city") had an altar (in fact two altars) and will have two altars.
3. The temple in Jerusalem had an outer court for Gentiles, and the same will be built again.
4. It is generally believed that John was writing around 96 AD.
5. History tells us that the Second Temple had been destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD.
6. The Lord predicted the destruction of that temple in the Olivet Discourse.
7. Therefore John was writing about a future temple connected to 1,260 days (42 months, 3 1/2 years) during which "the two witnesses" (Moses and Elijah) would preach and prophesy during the reign of the Antichrist (limited to 42 months, see Rev 13).

II MATTHEW 24
Then we have the Lord Jesus Christ both predicting the destruction of the existing temple, and confirming that in a future temple the Abomination of Desolation would stand in the Holy Place and would also trigger the Great Tribulation, which has never occurred and would never occur again.

1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down...(FULFILLED)
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:... 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (TO BE FULFILLED)

III 2 THESSALONIANS 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The "temple of God" is specifically mentioned here in connection with the Antichirst (the Beast, the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition). He will blaspheme God and Christ from within that future temple, and declare himself to be God. Daniel mentions this several times in his prophecy.

IV The Top Secret Plans to Build The Third Temple In Jerusalem And The Coming Of The Anti-Christ
Finally, we have confirmation from Israel that the Orthodox Jews are making complete preparation for the building of th third temple (which cannot possibly be Ezekiel's temple) but will certainly be hijacked by the Antichrist as spelled out in Daniel.

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