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There is no need for anything. If the globalist elite owned controlled media stopped causing division and hate, people wouldnt be brainwashed and you wouldn't have any of this. That's the problem.

But hey, the system needs excuses to strip all your rights and freedoms so they can usher in there police state under the globalist government.
No one controls your emotions ,you do.

If I get angry ,I don't have to act on it.You give too much power to the outside stimulus versus the control we have if we use it.if I see a bikini clad female on the beach ,and that is often, I don't have to ask her for her phone number.
 
Don't forget to do the math. You have a population of how many multy millions and there is a 0.1% problem and you going to let them take your rights and think its OK the entire force gets these robot things. Lol.

Nice way to suck in a nation.
 
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Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Will this suffice?

Amen! Unfortunately in today's world that seems to get translated to be an open ticket for governments to do whatever they want instead of following God's statutes. :sad
 
I guess its just what people think is best for them, if they think the globalist agenda of fully controlled police state under global governance is good and for the people in the long term well so be it.
 
I don't think they should use robots or drones against the people. They're instruments of war, and constitutionally speaking...no standing army is allowed.

Plus what ToB said.
So police ,not the military, shouldnt eod squads.the military has responded to both threats and removal.
 
So police ,not the military, shouldnt eod squads.the military has responded to both threats and removal.

Eo disposal is ok I think, why not? That would fall under serve and protect. The offensive use of eod robots is going too far and should be verboten on domestic soil.

They have breach teams and all sorts of armor. The shooter was one man. They should have sent a team of men into the parking structure to end the threat.

That makes more sense than remote detonated ied's. What the heck is a police dept doing with c4 in stock anyway? Thats absurd.
 
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I don't personally think someone firing at me is a suspect; I'd send snakes in to bite him if needed while wearing a snake bite helmet. :helmet
 
You folks exaggerate much? We're talking about one extreme situation that demanded extreme measures to save countless more lives from being lost and some of you are reacting as if tomorrow morning we are going to find lethal police robots on every street corner blowing to bits every person who does so much as jaywalk. Get real people!

They have breach teams and all sorts of armor. The shooter was one man. They should have sent a team of men into the parking structure to end the threat.
There is no body armor in existence that will protect you from a high powered rifle at close range. Even being shot in the body armor by a small caliber hand gun is like getting hit with a sledge hammer wielded by a very strong man! Lets put you at the front of that team to be the first one mowed down by his gunfire and see is you still think that's a better idea than letting a machine do the job instead.

What the heck is a police dept doing with c4 in stock anyway?
Anticipating just such a situation like this and being prepared for it perhaps? That's their job. Police work goes a lot deeper than just the guy on a motorcycle that writes you a traffic ticket. Anarchy is the alternative.

I don't think they should use robots or drones against the people. They're instruments of war
So are guns. So by that logic the police shouldn't even be allowed to carry guns. In fact, clubs were also instruments of war at one time, so the police shouldn't even be allowed to have their batons (which are nothing more than modern clubs). Nope, this simply isn't a valid argument.

I guess its just what people think is best for them, if they think the globalist agenda of fully controlled police state under global governance is good and for the people in the long term well so be it.
Oh come on, we are talking about one incident where a machine was used to save the lives of countless more innocent people at the expense of the life of one murderer. This is hardly a "fully controlled police state under global governance". Or do you believe it would have been better to save this murderer's life at the expense of letting him continue to kill more innocent people until he ran out of ammunition or just got to tired to hold his rifle anymore?

I would prefer they would program such wizardry with rubber teeth to suppress and restrain their adversary
A robot with rubber teeth? To do what? Playfully nip at the guys ankles until he gets so annoyed he goes home? In which comic book did you get this idea?
 
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I don't personally think someone firing at me is a suspect; I'd send snakes in to bite him if needed while wearing a snake bite helmet. :helmet
LOL! Yeah, that makes about as much sense as some of the other suggestions I'm seeing here. :biggrin2
 
So go ahead and have all the second amendment rights that you want, if I don't like what you do I'll just vaporize you. My question is, should anyone have that power? It can be used for good or for evil.
 
You folks exaggerate much? We're talking about one extreme situation that demanded extreme measures to save countless more lives from being lost and some of you are reacting as if tomorrow morning we are going to find lethal police robots on every street corner blowing to bits every person who does so much as jaywalk. Get real people!

Justifications of any social ills are not "christian." Resistance is mandatory for believers. There are excellent spiritual reasons for that resistance. I'm sure you have certain hot button issues as well.

1 John 2:15, 1 Cor. 15:24

There is no body armor in existence that will protect you from a high powered rifle at close range. Even being shot in the body armor by a small caliber hand gun is like getting hit with a sledge hammer wielded by a very strong man! Lets put you at the front of that team to be the first one mowed down by his gunfire and see is you still think that's a better idea than letting a machine do the job instead.

I'm not a fan of street justice being meted out by death in any case. But it does underscore deeper very real "human" problems, generally speaking.
Anticipating just such a situation like this and being prepared for it perhaps? That's their job.

I don't envy the attempts to control human lawlessness, certainly. I would not deem killing people apart from trial by jury part of anyone's job. Technically that is war, not governing. So let's not sugar coat what it is.
Police work goes a lot deeper than just the guy on a motorcycle that writes you a traffic ticket. Anarchy is the alternative.

There are extreme's to be had in any direction.
So are guns. So by that logic the police shouldn't even be allowed to carry guns. In fact, clubs were also instruments of war at one time, so the police shouldn't even be allowed to have their batons (which are nothing more than modern clubs). Nope, this simply isn't a valid argument.

Now you are getting the picture.
Oh come on, we are talking about one incident where a machine was used to save the lives of countless more innocent people at the expense of the life of one murderer. This is hardly a "fully controlled police state under global governance". Or do you believe it would have been better to save this murderer's life at the expense of letting him continue to kill more innocent people until he ran out of ammunition or just got to tired to hold his rifle anymore?

Let's discuss how legitimate the supposed killer's trial was. Er, ah, there wasn't one.
A robot with rubber teeth? To do what? Playfully nip at the guys ankles until he gets so annoyed he goes home? In which comic book did you get this idea?

If the geniuses designing these killing machines spent more time building measures of human-criminal restraint other than the first alternative, which is always street killing, they'd be able to restrain as easily as kill. Or are we not intelligent enough to do that? I think we are intelligent enough to do that.

There are deeper issues in play here. Police state, rule of law, etc. Given the fact that the "rulers" are quite corrupt and irresponsible themselves there are few reasons to "trust." And let's not forget that the government is quite adept at lying out their teeth to further their agenda's.

I about puked yesterday listening to Obama pontificate about his version of the Gospel at the police memorial.
 
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Eo disposal is ok I think, why not? That would fall under serve and protect. The offensive use of eod robots is going too far and should be verboten on domestic soil.

They have breach teams and all sorts of armor. The shooter was one man. They should have sent a team of men into the parking structure to end the threat.

That makes more sense than remote detonated ied's. What the heck is a police dept doing with c4 in stock anyway? Thats absurd.

Why not just vaporize the entire pack of protesters with lasers. For the better good, of course. You know, "for the good of the children" for God sake.
 
So go ahead and have all the second amendment rights that you want, if I don't like what you do I'll just vaporize you. My question is, should anyone have that power? It can be used for good or for evil.
Anything can be used for good or evil. Please be realistic and try to stay on the topic of the thread. We are talking about a police action in an extreme situation here, not about every citizen having robots armed with C-4 explosives to "vaporize" anyone they don't like.
 
Justifications of any social ills are not "christian." Resistance is mandatory for believers. There are excellent spiritual reasons for that resistance. I'm sure you have certain hot button issues as well.

1 John 2:15, 1 Cor. 15:24



I'm not a fan of street justice being meted out by death in any case. But it does underscore deeper very real "human" problems, generally speaking.


I don't envy the attempts to control human lawlessness, certainly. I would not deem killing people apart from trial by jury part of anyone's job. Technically that is war, not governing. So let's not sugar coat what it is.


There are extreme's to be had in any direction.


Now you are getting the picture.


Let's discuss how legitimate the supposed killer's trial was. Er, ah, there wasn't one.


If the geniuses designing these killing machines spent more time building measures of human-criminal restraint other than the first alternative, which is always street killing, they'd be able to restrain as easily as kill. Or are we not intelligent enough to do that? I think we are intelligent enough to do that.

There are deeper issues in play here. Police state, rule of law, etc. Given the fact that the "rulers" are quite corrupt and irresponsible themselves there are few reasons to "trust." And let's not forget that the government is quite adept at lying out their teeth to further their agenda's.

I about puked yesterday listening to Obama pontificate about his version of the Gospel at the police memorial.
OK. So your opinion is that instead of stopping this guy by the best means they had available to them, the police should have just stood by waiting for some kind of trial by jury to take place while he simply continues to kill as many people as he has ammunition to kill. You are clearly an anarchist who has no respect for any authority over you and you clearly are using no common sense in this situation. Perhaps you need to be one of the people he shot in order to see things a little more realistically. That generally wakes one up to reality real quick. That's about all I can say at this point.
 
OK. So your opinion is that instead of stopping this guy by the best means they had available to them, the police should have just stood by waiting for some kind of trial by jury to take place while he simply continues to kill as many people as he has ammunition to kill.

My opinions are about as relevant as yours when it comes to government power/authority and how it is to be used and deployed.

You are clearly an anarchist

Calm down Obadiah. My distrust of the police and government in general is well earned by a lifetime of experience.
 
Anything can be used for good or evil. Please be realistic and try to stay on the topic of the thread. We are talking about a police action in an extreme situation here, not about every citizen having robots armed with C-4 explosives to "vaporize" anyone they don't like.
No just the police have this power. But should they? I don't trust the police in this country at all. They have done things to me that no one should have to endure. I would never trust them to do the right thing in almost any situation. Call me whatever you want, the police are out of control and having this kind of weaponry scares me.
 
DOA law says:

"if you are found within the act of committing terrorism against an american in the USA, you have then knowingly and willingly forfeited your citizenship and all civil rights associated with it, and have accepted that you will be killed on sight <>as the result<> of your willful pursuit of your terrorist act".

so, by hatchet, axe, saw, gun, rope, knife, explosive device, ..........etc.

DOA Law
 
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