should we have billionaires?

[Truthfrees]

Should We Have Billionaires?

The Democratic presidential campaign has taken a strange twist in recent days, with candidates being asked whether we should have billionaires. While

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the link is a political post promoting liberal thinking and saying untrue things about conservative beliefs on wealth

should there be billionaires? - what does God say?
1. Psalms 35:27 - God delights in our prosperity
2. Proverbs 10:22 - the blessing of God makes us rich
3. Isaiah 48:17 - God teaches us to profit

who were some of the billionaires in the bible?
1. abraham - Genesis 13:2 - Genesis 13:6 -
2. isaac - Genesis 26:12 - Genesis 26:17-32
3. job - Job 1:3 - Job 42:10
4. solomon - 2 Chronicles 9:20
5. david - 1 Chronicles 29:28 - Psalms 37:19
6. joseph - Genesis 47:14

why does God want some of us to be billionaires?
some of us are in positions to affect many people and have a God given desire to do so - so God gives such people great wealth - blessed to be a blessing

some people get rich WITHOUT God - they do all kinds of wrong things and hurt people because they care for only themselves - don't let such people affect your thinking about wealth - let Godly people affect your ideas about wealth

if you are not given a great passion by God to affect people positively through great wealth you probably don't need to focus on billions of dollars

 

[jasonc]

Africa is a continent rich in natural resources. If the multinational corporations weren't allowed to exploit those resource for their own greed, then the God given natural wealth would serve their own people. But go on, judge the cause of the multinational corporations, regulations are too burdensome, and taxing them unjust. Who needs clean air or water. Praise and glory to the billionaires, may a few scraps fall from their table!


There was an article earlier this year that said the worlds 26 richest people own as much wealth as the poorest 50%. I guess their altruism just doesn't reach that far.

Corrupt govt is the problem .
But,nice evasion of your responsibility to,the poor.only,the richer the, you,as you,define it from,union propaganda is the ones responsible

Where doesn't say it to,mandate compassion by the sword?after the cross?

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Should we have billionaires? What about millionaires?. To the most poorest in the world should we have thousandaires?.

The high majority of people in the USA are lucky to even live in a house and sleep in a bed, even on a couch, and have running water in there house. You don't have walk miles to fill a container. Just be thankful for what you do have.

 

[jasonc]

God only,knows not me,not you,where the rich who are greedy stand.I have worked for myself ,owed taxes,paid my,wife's tax off when she closed her business,they took,my,bonus and i had to claim injured spouse and later on,pay them back.I'm,not,a millionaire .I,have see. Miserly,wealthy and i have seen very giving ones .

 

[jasonc]

Why does one want raises?simply, to,get more stuff?to save more?I,do,think,keeping,up with the Jones is a problem .however each person must find a balence.

 

[jasonc]

This Is What Happens When You Ask Pro-Taxers to Pay More | Daniel J. Mitchell

If you think taxes should be higher, go ahead, pay more. If it's ethical to support raising taxes, why not lead by example?

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The democrats don't lead by example.

I'm,for helping the poor but not in mandated form.if social,security is savings why do we deduct items and reduce money to it?

 

[Michael74]

Is it okay to tax the rich to pay for the military, FBI, and police?

 

[jasonc]

We are all taxed for that.the fbi a political machinery ,needs to go.many cops I,know being constitutionalists hate the fbi,two of them were atf officers .

I,wonder why ,could it be the Clinton cover up,the spying on MLK and others in the past ?

 

[Michael74]

Interesting. Okay forget the FBI.

Is it okay to tax the rich to fund the military and police. The poor can only afford a Navy that consists of 2 men in a rowboat. If that.

 

[jasonc]

Interesting. Okay forget the FBI.

Is it okay to tax the rich to fund the military and police. The poor can only afford a Navy that consists of 2 men in a rowboat. If that.

we must have a government. my point was not directed at that idea, but rather making a statement against mandated compassion.

surely you see my point with ss, pay 2 dollars and get back half, that's a poor saving plan. I wouldn't keep that. one doesn't have to make much to be forced by the irs to back pay. my wife made 13 grand(self employed) and owed the irs several thousand. the things I learned from that experience.

 

[jasonc]

nor would you knowingly save money upon your death your next of kin may not get it even if they make more and still need it.or put money into a plan where the age of collection can be raised because of lack of money.

 

[Michael74]

we must have a government.

Okay, but you still have not said how the world's most expensive military should be funded.

...surely you see my point with ss...

Chile adopted the system that you propose. Private accounts. Its worked well for the top 20% or so. Not so well for the majority. The majority is in the process of voting to slowly change it back.

We need a system that works for the majority. In a democracy, 80% can outvote the 20%. Even with gerrymandering and an electoral college that make some voters more equal than others.

The big thing with private accounts is bank inflation. Bonds don't keep pace with inflation. Stocks are currently so over valued that they are not expected to keep pace with inflation. What use is it to save a dollar when you are 18 if it loses half of its purchasing power by the time you are 65? If the USA had an honest dollar, then private savings accounts would work. A dollar saved at 18 would still be worth a dollar at 65, plus interest and dividends collected over the years. A good deal.

If private accounts can be inflated away by bankers, they are pointless.

 

[jasonc]

Okay, but you still have not said how the world's most expensive military should be funded.



Chile adopted the system that you propose. Private accounts. Its worked well for the top 20% or so. Not so well for the majority. The majority is in the process of voting to slowly change it back.

We need a system that works for the majority. In a democracy, 80% can outvote the 20%. Even with gerrymandering and an electoral college that make some voters more equal than others.

The big thing with private accounts is bank inflation. Bonds don't keep pace with inflation. Stocks are currently so over valued that they are not expected to keep pace with inflation. What use is it to save a dollar when you are 18 if it loses half of its purchasing power by the time you are 65? If the USA had an honest dollar, then private savings accounts would work. A dollar saved at 18 would still be worth a dollar at 65, plus interest and dividends collected over the years. A good deal.

If private accounts can be inflated away by bankers, they are pointless.

Do you really think that the gold standard will actually eliminate the poor.?

Do you really think that a 80,refugee will come here and money to find his out those like him who have no,savings will,be funded by balanced budgets.the state budgets money they can't simply,get money from the air .its either borrowed.

Not enough workers ,can't mandate birth rates.

Many nations pay less on,safety nets.you must have nothing .to,get it.

You,want a gun to,be pointed at you to,fund your neighbors retirement ,that is ss.you,are paying,those on it,today,no,amount of gold .can fund that .its a lie.
Founders thought borrowing on the backs of kids for today was immoral.yet these hated the central bank .your idea requires a central bank and no,gold

 

[ezrider]

If the USA had an honest dollar, then private savings accounts would work.

Do you really think that the gold standard will actually eliminate the poor.?

I didn't see where he mentioned he gold standard. Why do you bring it up?
There is a much better standard than gold that would be fair and equitable amongst all nations. Gold is a finite resource that can be hoarded by the rich.

There is one constant among the peoples of the world that drives the fundamentals of the economy: and that is our need to eat. We don't consume gold, but we do consume food daily. If we were to monetize wheat or corn as the standard, then there would be fair trade without manipulating the currency to the benefit of the few, while the poorest of the world become active participant in the creation of wealth.

Did God create the barley standard when he established the value for a homer of barley at fifty shekels of silver?

 

[Michael74]

And if a man shall sanctify unto the LORD some part of a field of his possession, then thy estimation shall be according to the seed thereof: an homer of barley seed shall be valued at fifty shekels of silver. Leviticus 27:16 KJV

 

[jasonc]

I didn't see where he mentioned he gold standard. Why do you bring it up?
There is a much better standard than gold that would be fair and equitable amongst all nations. Gold is a finite resource that can be hoarded by the rich.

There is one constant among the peoples of the world that drives the fundamentals of the economy: and that is our need to eat. We don't consume gold, but we do consume food daily. If we were to monetize wheat or corn as the standard, then there would be fair trade without manipulating the currency to the benefit of the few, while the poorest of the world become active participant in the creation of wealth.

Did God create the barley standard when he established the value for a homer of barley at fifty shekels of silver?

Because that would take from the food supply ,look up,the turnip standard.

Gold switched to turnip.it was a bubble and didn't last .

Would you work harder for more wheat?what about all that extra wheat ,that degrades.

Isreal is an agrarian society ,they did have coinage

But thanks local ghost towns of not even a century ago used tokens or food to pay ,credit system.they folded people moved.

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Is it okay to tax the rich to fund the military and police. The poor can only afford a Navy that consists of 2 men in a rowboat. If that.

Since when did the public care so much about paying taxes?. I didn't know everyone loves paying taxes.

It's just any excuse to take the rich wealth.

It's like Judas, but you could use your billions and pay lots of taxes to the government and they could build the military and police force.

 

[jasonc]

Apoxee,must visit its close it was one

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Of course business is going to pass it on to the customer.

Overseas retailers hit with new GST laws - NZ Herald

Online shoppers could face higher prices after new GST laws kick in today.

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[ezrider]

Because that would take from the food supply

Explain how monetizing corn or wheat would "take" from the food supply.

look up,the turnip standard.

Gold switched to turnip.it was a bubble and didn't last .

Really? Are you actually serious? Oh, that's right, Nixon was impeached for taking us off the gold standard and putting us on the turnip standard. I remember now. Lol

Would you work harder for more wheat?what about all that extra wheat ,that degrades.

Stick to reading meters.