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The Dead Sea's War Scroll and the Book of Revelation

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The War Scroll and the Book of Revelation
Some of the people that have studied the Dead Sea Scrolls believe they were started by the Zadokite Priesthood.
Zadokite = Zadok meaning "Righteous, Justified," a Kohen priest to be a descendant from Eleazar the son of Aaron. He was the High Priest of Israel during the reigns of David and Solomon and may have started the group called the Essenes to perform special duties and privileges in the future Temple.
However I have also studied from other interpretations that the Essenes were started by Elijah the Prophet.
It talks of the return of the twelve tribes to Israel and the different prayers, rituals, battles and important phrases to be written on banners and shields they hold up as they go to battle. About a war that lasts 35 years.
The Righteous Teacher is credited with correctly interpreting the Scriptures compared to the ruling priesthood of Jerusalem of God’s People and all of The Righteous Teacher followers agreeing with his interpretation as being correct.
When the Sons of Light return to Israel the Sons of Levi, Benjamin and Judea will fight against all their (the enemies of Israel) troops. Supporting the enemies of God, are those who have violated the covenant. After six bloody engagements during this last battle, the Sons of Light and Sons of Darkness are deadlocked in a 3-3 tie. In the face of such perverse evil, the Sons of Light are encouraged to persevere to the end. In the seventh and final confrontation "the great hand of God shall overcome Belial and all the angels of his dominion, and all men of his forces shall be destroyed forever"

The army of Belial and his angels, the sons of Belial, the king of contempt and the wicked teacher are a few of the titles given for Satan and his followers.

The Great Hand of God shall overcome the Sons of Belial and all his Angels and there will be no survivors of the Sons of Darkness. The Heavens will open, the Sword of God and Michael as well as other Angels, will come down to lead the Son’s of Light in the final battles resulting in the sons of darkness being totally destroyed by this non-human Sword of God.

Then the Sons of Righteousness shall shine to all ends of the world continuing to shine forth until end of the appointed seasons of darkness. Then at the time appointed by God, His great excellence shall shine for all the times of eternity; for peace and blessing, glory and joy, and long life for all Sons of Light. On the day when the Kittim (Could be Rome or all false religion for that matter) falls, there shall be a battle and horrible carnage before the God of Israel, for it is a day appointed by Him from ancient times as a battle of annihilation for the Sons of Darkness. On that day the congregation of the gods and the congregation of men shall engage one another, resulting in great carnage. It is a time of distress for all the people who are redeemed by God. In all their afflictions none exists that is like it, hastening to its completion as an eternal redemption. On the day of their battle against the Kittim, they shall go forth for carnage in battle. In three lots the Sons of Light shall stand firm so as to strike a blow at wickedness, and in three the army of Belial shall strengthen themselves so as to force the retreat of the forces of Light. And when the banners of the infantry cause their hearts to melt, then the strength of God will strengthen the hearts of the Sons of Light. In the seventh lot: the great hand of God shall overcome Belial and all the angels of his dominion, and all the men of his forces shall be destroyed forever.
 
The "War Scroll" is a mystery to archeologists. It was not discovered amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls...but there were further writings alluding and mentioning it.
This is one of the most highly sought after scrolls. No one has a complete copy. Just portions and fragments that are insufficient to make a complete assessment as to whether they belong to the War Scroll or not.

However,
There are enough mentions that make us believe that this war Scroll was a cadence said during marching involving heavy breathing that was to increase indurance.

So... until the thing is truly discovered we really don't know what is in it.
 
After reading this a second time...

I think that you are referring to Sons of Light Versus the Sons of Darkness...this book copied by the Essenes is not Judaism or Christian....it is Zorastrianism. Which is something that the archeologists scratch their heads over. (A leftover from the Persian Empire).... apparently copying this fictional book brought in money...as did The Book of Enoch.
The Dead Sea copy is not complete...but large sections were made readable.

Deducing theological positions from these fictional books would be a huge mistake.
I thought
 
The Essenes were a small sect that flourished in Palestine around the 2nd century BC to the end of the 1st century AD. They observed the laws of Moses, the sabbath and ritual purity, but they did not believe in the resurrection of Christ. Many of those things you have written in your OP are all found in the scriptures.

Rev 12:7-10 is the war in heaven between Michael and Satan as Satan is finally thrown out of heaven and now gives power and authority to the beast out of the sea who gives power to the beast out of the earth, Rev Chapter 13.

The Sword of God means His sharp word that Jesus will speak to smite the nations upon the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Jesus returns on the last day and will destroy the beast and it's false prophet being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-5, casting them both alive into the lake of fire, and all that followed after this beast, Revelation 19:11-21.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

John 5:28, 29; Rev 20:11-15, now comes the Great White throne judgment as the books are opened with one of them being the Lamb's book of life where all the saints of God have their names written as they have part of the first resurrection of eternal life on such the second death hath no power, Rev 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57. The other book is opened being the book of damnation where the enemies of God that were killed while trying to destroy the camp of the saints are now joined with those enemies of Christ that were also raised from their graves and are reserved, 2 Peter 2:9, as now since they were condemned and judged will be cast into the lake of fire. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. While the saints are with Jesus the earth will be renewed and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21.
 
I believe you meant to address JohnDB, but replied to my post by mistake.

Here's a helpful hint. When addressing another member by name in order for them to see your reply better go and press the @ button and without any space type their member name of after it and it will look like this Mychael
 
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Please forgive me. I don't know that much about forums and the changes caused by the fast pace of the internet. My talents are more in other areas and I have never involve myself in this before dec. of 2019
 
First and foremost I will state that I am sorry to John, the administration of this site and viewers. The problem being, since my last post was removed, I didn't see myself as attacking, only defending The Lord and myself, mentioning something which I felt was improper conduct attacking me and never was apologized for by a leader and governing forces of this site. I though I stated why quite clearly. To be fair let us all be judged equally. 2 wrongs never makes one right. God has shown everyone of us to be in error sometimes therefore reserving the title of without fault for Himself. May God Bless all who search Him out and correct what He shows you for your error and not be to proud to say sorry when necessary!
 
Mychael there is no governing forces of this site, but only administrators and moderators that try there best to keep unity within each forum discussion so they do not get heated. Each member has agreed they have read all the terms of service before they could sign up. The ToS has been carefully and prayerfully set up and when they are broken by any member there will always be an explanation. If anyone has a problem with the ruling they can go to the Talk With The Staff section so everything can be resolved.

I hope this helps to explain what this forum is all about as we want to uplift and edify each other. We will not always agree with each other, but yet we are all still learning and need to be opened to accept correction when needed. I know I have been corrected many times and I am grateful for God's instruction as His Holy Spirit works through others that are more mature in the word of God then I am. We learn, we grow and most importantly we walk in love.

God bless you brother.
 
I trie
The Essenes were a small sect that flourished in Palestine around the 2nd century BC to the end of the 1st century AD. They observed the laws of Moses, the sabbath and ritual purity, but they did not believe in the resurrection of Christ. Many of those things you have written in your OP are all found in the scriptures.

Rev 12:7-10 is the war in heaven between Michael and Satan as Satan is finally thrown out of heaven and now gives power and authority to the beast out of the sea who gives power to the beast out of the earth, Rev Chapter 13.

The Sword of God means His sharp word that Jesus will speak to smite the nations upon the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Jesus returns on the last day and will destroy the beast and it's false prophet being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-5, casting them both alive into the lake of fire, and all that followed after this beast, Revelation 19:11-21.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.

John 5:28, 29; Rev 20:11-15, now comes the Great White throne judgment as the books are opened with one of them being the Lamb's book of life where all the saints of God have their names written as they have part of the first resurrection of eternal life on such the second death hath no power, Rev 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57. The other book is opened being the book of damnation where the enemies of God that were killed while trying to destroy the camp of the saints are now joined with those enemies of Christ that were also raised from their graves and are reserved, 2 Peter 2:9, as now since they were condemned and judged will be cast into the lake of fire. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. While the saints are with Jesus the earth will be renewed and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven, Rev 21.
Revelation, a book that states a important warning regarding add or subtracting from its content. There is evidence of change in the calculation of the number in the very earliest manuscripts, one being 666 the total, the other 616. One that lined up with Nero's name the other Caligula. Later 666 was used for one of the Pope's Titles as well as many others throughout time. It shows the nature of Man even back then. That is why I trust what the Holy Spirit want me to do, say or write. For instance The Holy Spirit has never guided or encouraged me to involve myself or its writings in the Bible regarding the Cross except in the symbolism of dealing with the hardships of the path he has for me to follow. I worship God not the Graven image His Son was crucified on.
I wonder if John the baptist, Joseph and Mary came from Qumran would Christians treat the Scrolls that were found there with any more importance? My research into this has led me to this understanding as well as they (The Essenes) held God in higher reverence according to the proper translation of the Torah and other Scriptures Inspired by God, then anyone in Israel at their time never mind today's generation myself included. Not Zorastrianism and not fictional from my research, as John stated he believed.
Also when i look back I don't know if I really sent the message that was meant for John....I been having problems from the new spam software I think it has been playing havoc as well as sending me to readers digest's bad jokes site all day instead of what I clicked on for this forums site. Well can we trust the Scribs? (software code writers)
 
I trie

Revelation, a book that states a important warning regarding add or subtracting from its content. There is evidence of change in the calculation of the number in the very earliest manuscripts, one being 666 the total, the other 616. One that lined up with Nero's name the other Caligula. Later 666 was used for one of the Pope's Titles as well as many others throughout time. It shows the nature of Man even back then. That is why I trust what the Holy Spirit want me to do, say or write. For instance The Holy Spirit has never guided or encouraged me to involve myself or its writings in the Bible regarding the Cross except in the symbolism of dealing with the hardships of the path he has for me to follow. I worship God not the Graven image His Son was crucified on.
I wonder if John the baptist, Joseph and Mary came from Qumran would Christians treat the Scrolls that were found there with any more importance? My research into this has led me to this understanding as well as they (The Essenes) held God in higher reverence according to the proper translation of the Torah and other Scriptures Inspired by God, then anyone in Israel at their time never mind today's generation myself included. Not Zorastrianism and not fictional from my research, as John stated he believed.
Also when i look back I don't know if I really sent the message that was meant for John....I been having problems from the new spam software I think it has been playing havoc as well as sending me to readers digest's bad jokes site all day instead of what I clicked on for this forums site. Well can we trust the Scribs? (software code writers)

History teaches the Essenes did have a high regard to reverencing God as they were obedient to His laws, but yet rejected Jesus as Messiah and did not believe He was resurrected.

What is your source that there is evidence of what you said about 666 and 616? I have to believe what is written in Rev 13 as Daniel Chapter 7 and history has already given us who the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth are as their number is the number of man 666.

The cross is very important in scripture as it is a part of the suffering Jesus went through for the great love He has for everyone as He paid our debt for sin. We do not worship the cross, nor is it a graven image, although some make it one, but to worship Christ who suffered and died on the cross by the hands of those who have always persecuted the followers of Christ who in the end of days is the son of perdition who will take a literal seat in Jerusalem upon the place where the Temple of God use to be before it was destroyed for the last time in 70AD.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are very important as that which has been found and transcribe so far supports that of the original manuscripts that make up what is written in the Bible. JohnDB already said Zoroastrianism has nothing to do with the God we serve as they have their own false gods they worship as they are not Christians. They are a part of the Medo-Persian Empire (Iran) as this Empire was from 536BC - 330BC.

God is not going to give us things to write unless we are guided by the Holy Spirit as what we write has to line up with the scriptures.
 
We assume we know what is correct in history yet history teaches us that it is the winning sides that mainly determines what is truth. The Roman Empire Killed every original Christian and destroyed any literature they could find for centuries before deciding what Christianity was to be and how the New Testament would be written. I've been a student of the Bible and ancient literature since I was a child. I also studied every culture and religion I had the opportunity to look into. I trust the Holy Spirit for the final say on all that I take in and all that I am allowed to teach, that is why I don't belong or involving myself in the Biblical cross discussions or teaching it except than to state what I just said in my previous post. I choose not to speak against religions that were given as a part in leading a People of an age to God as others may do, only that which goes against God do I defend against. I do know in the eschatology of Islam the Mahdi and Issa (Yoshua) go around and destroy all the crosses and other graven images. Then correct the many mistakes made by the People of the Book. (Christians and Israelites) Most Christians of this age don't know that although they were more aware of this when the Ottoman empire was strong. The Sleeping Church giving no importance to what the Holy Spirit gave me the understanding that I was inspired to write called the Mussel Lamb Agenda.
How do you know the Essenes rejected Jesus as Messiah? My studies shows me thats where Yoshua's Parents as well as John the Baptist came from. It was the Pharisees that rejected Yoshua
There was no resurrection when those scrolls were written yet, that occurred and was taught mainly in Yoshua's lifetime and after.
As for the 616, 666 question.......study to show yourself approved. You can read the Bible over and over but you won't find this answer there. I had to search for this wisdom where it was placed although you can probably find it on the internet now.
 
The War
The "War Scroll" is a mystery to archeologists. It was not discovered amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls...but there were further writings alluding and mentioning it.
This is one of the most highly sought after scrolls. No one has a complete copy. Just portions and fragments that are insufficient to make a complete assessment as to whether they belong to the War Scroll or not.

However,
There are enough mentions that make us believe that this war Scroll was a cadence said during marching involving heavy breathing that was to increase indurance.

So... until the thing is truly discovered we really don't know what is in it.

When you tell me that "It was not discovered amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls...but there were further writings alluding and mentioning it." I have to say you've studied other research than the majority that studied the Dead Sea Scrolls have, or you are teaching incorrectly. The War Scroll are one of the seven original Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in Qumran in 1947. If you call them fictional books you would have to include one of the most complete copies of the book of Isaiah which is on display in Israel as well as fragments of every Book of the Old Testament except the book of Esther.
 
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