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Bible Study The Devil's use of Scripture

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Restin

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Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
Matthew 4:1

  • Matthew 4:6 The devil said to Jesus "If you are the Son of God,
    throw yourself down; for it is written,
    He will command His angels concerning You;
    and 'On their hands they will bear you up, so that
    you will not strike your foot against a stone.'

    Matthew 4:7 Jesus said to the devil"it is written,
    'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Here we have an example of the Devil quoting "it is written" from: Psalms 91:11,12
Jesus, is quoting 'it is written' from Deuteronomy 6:16

Quite amazing!
NASU - emphasis supplied
........Restin
 
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Restin

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Another Gospel

  • Another Jesus --
    A different spirit --
    A different gospel --

    come in the name of Jesus
    self deceived
Jesus said "See to it that no one misleads you. "Many will come in My name,
saying 'I am He' and will mislead many." Mark 13:5,6

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will
show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24

  • 2 Corinthians 11:

    4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached,
    or you receive a different spirit which you have not received,
    or a different gospel which you have not accepted,...."

    13 "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers,
    disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.

    14 "No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

    15 Therrefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as
    servants of righteousness
    , whose end will be according to their deeds."
Galatians 6:3 "If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself."

NASU-emphasis supplied
.............Restin
 
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serapha

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Restin said:
Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
Matthew 4:1

  • Matthew 4:6 The devil said to Jesus "If you are the Son of God,
    throw yourself down; for it is written,
    He will command His angels concerning You;
    and 'On their hands they will bear you up, so that
    you will not strike your foot against a stone.'

    Matthew 4:7 Jesus said to the devil"it is written,
    'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Here we have an example of the Devil quoting "it is written" from: Psalms 91:11,12
Jesus, is quoting 'it is written' from Deuteronomy 6:16

Quite amazing!
NASU - emphasis supplied
........Restin
Hi there!

:angel:


I just thought I would add to the Matthew passage... It was a Jewish teaching that when the true Messiah arrived, then he would jump from the pinnacle of the temple and be unharmed by surviving the fall. Many professing messiahs took the landing proving that they were not true messiah material. :o


Satan was putting Christ to the human test there also as satan would know the Judaic traditional teaching concerning the 426-foot jump from the pinnacle.


BTW... Satan never quoted "the Scriptures" correctly.


~serapha~
 
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Restin

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Re: The Devil's use of Scripture..Resp

serapha said:
I just thought I would add to the Matthew passage... It was a Jewish teaching that when the true Messiah arrived, then he would jump from the pinnacle of the temple and be unharmed by surviving the fall. Many professing messiahs took the landing proving that they were not true messiah material.

Satan was putting Christ to the human test there also as satan would know the Judaic traditional teaching concerning the 426-foot jump from the pinnacle.

~serapha~
Thanks, I was not familiar with this Judaic traditional teaching. Interesting!

serapha said:
BTW... Satan never quoted "the Scriptures" correctly.
My thoughts as well.

Another example is the 'partial truth' stated by 'the sersent' in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 3:1 "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?" in verses 4 & 5 the 'serpent' added to the words God told to Adam and Eve.

Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. 6 "Do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar." NASU

Rev 22:18,19 Has more information about penalties for 'adding to' or 'taking away from' the scripture.

A guide to help us understand what is being presented.
Serapha, thanks for bringing it up.

.......Restin
 

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BTW... Satan never quoted "the Scriptures" correctly.
How true! He will always distort it. :o Goes with the territory. 8-)
 
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Satan knows the word quite well. He has always used half-truths to deceive. That's why people listen to him, because it sounds right. In cults for example, they feed you their stuff little by little until you finally eat the big lies (this can be done by one's self as well-which I have seen alot of). A different foundation in the person is laid and then built upon with lies, that's why a deceived person will defend his stance; he's relaying all his thinking from a false platform. This is satan's big deceptive practice that breeds the opposition to Christianity that we see in the world.
 
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Jay T

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Restin said:
Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
Matthew 4:1

  • Matthew 4:6 The devil said to Jesus "If you are the Son of God,
    throw yourself down; for it is written,
    He will command His angels concerning You;
    and 'On their hands they will bear you up, so that
    you will not strike your foot against a stone.'

    Matthew 4:7 Jesus said to the devil"it is written,
    'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Here we have an example of the Devil quoting "it is written" from: Psalms 91:11,12
Jesus, is quoting 'it is written' from Deuteronomy 6:16

Quite amazing!
NASU - emphasis supplied
........Restin
Since Satan knows scripture better than any Christian does....he has an almost certain advantage over them.
It is one of the reasons that the Bible warns us about the Apostle Paul's writings:
2 Peter 3:15 "And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction".

I will be quick to state that there is absolutely nothing wrong, with what Paul wrote....but how they are being interpreted, by the Christian world of today !

Case in point:

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]

Satan wishes people, to understand this, as meaning the 7th day Sabbath (4th commandment, of the 10)....instead of the sabbath days such as in the Law of Moses (Passover, Feasts of Trumpets, etc., etc.).

He knows full well what James 2:10-12 says....'to break just one of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:3-17), is to break them all'.

Satan knows, that to break any of the commandments, is to commit sin...which will result in eternal death, (Romans 6:23).
 
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Jay T

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Free said:
Jay T,

Do you eat pork?
No, and here's why:

Isaiah 66:15 "For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD".
 
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Restin

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To judge or have contempt

Jay T said:
Satan knows, that to break any of the commandments, is to commit sin...which will result in eternal death, (Romans 6:23).
  • Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is
    eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

    Rom 14:2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who
    is weak eats vegetables only.


    5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike.
    Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.


    7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself;
    8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord;
    therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
    9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord
    both of the dead and of the living.

    10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again,
    why do you regard your brother with contempt?
    For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

    23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating
    is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
Two positions:

  • ....Judge a brother
  • (the weak judge the strong)
    ....Contempt for a brother
    (the strong have contempt for the weak)
'Judging' or having 'contempt' for a brother, is to deny FAITH and thereby Christ'.

Scripture, NASU w/emphasis supplied
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Jay T said:
Free said:
Jay T,

Do you eat pork?
No, and here's why:

Isaiah 66:15 "For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD".
JayT do you eat rabbit? Crabmeat, lobster..etc?

Do you only eat Shechita meat?
 
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Jay T

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Re: To judge or have contempt

Restin said:
Jay T said:
Satan knows, that to break any of the commandments, is to commit sin...which will result in eternal death, (Romans 6:23).
  • Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is
    eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

    Rom 14:2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who
    is weak eats vegetables only.


    5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike.
    Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.


    7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself;
    8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord;
    therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
    9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord
    both of the dead and of the living.

    10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again,
    why do you regard your brother with contempt?
    For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

    23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating
    is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
Two positions:

  • ....Judge a brother
  • (the weak judge the strong)
    ....Contempt for a brother
    (the strong have contempt for the weak)
'Judging' or having 'contempt' for a brother, is to deny FAITH and thereby Christ'.

Scripture, NASU w/emphasis supplied
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The point is....is that God is calling people to come out of spiritual Babylon (false teaching and doctrines) into the true worship of Himself, (Revelation chapter 18).
God is trying to expose Satan's doctrines...such as Sunday worship services....Immortal soul doctrine....etc...etc.
 
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Spiritual Babylon

Jay T said:
The point is....is that God is calling people to come out of spiritual Babylon (false teaching and doctrines) into the true worship of Himself, (Revelation chapter 18). God is trying to expose Satan's doctrines...such as Sunday worship services....Immortal soul doctrine....etc...etc.
  • Rev 18:21 Then a strong angel took up a stone like a great millstone and
    threw it into the sea, saying, "So will Babylon, the great city, be thrown
    down with violence, and will not be found any longer
    .

Daniel 2:31-45 The Dream of King Nebuchadnezzar. The great image --
You know the story, but a few of the verses for direction ....

  • 32 The head of the statue was made of fine gold, its breast and its
    arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze
    33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
    34 "....a stone was cut out without hands and that it struck the statue on
    its feet of iron and clay and crushed them.

    35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were
    crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer
    threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of
    them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great
    mountain and filled the whole earth
    ."
The interpretation follows----
  • 38 "And you [Nebuchadnezzar] are this head of gold".
Nebuchadnezzar did not like the thought of an inferior kingdom following him.
He wanted to be 'everything' and so commanded that an image be built of all gold.

The point is..... this entire image is an illustration of spiritual Babylon,
the spiritual church. On a more personal level -- this image is ME
-- the adult ego, which God is 'deflating'.
  • Ps 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words;
    As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.
One step at the time --- ego, pride, arrogance, self-righteousness are
crushed then blown away 'like chaff from the summer threshing floors;
so that not a trace of them can be found'. The ones 'called out of Babylon'
are hidden in the body of the 'stone' -- the stone, which the builders rejected,
the stone cut out without hands -- God's kingdom 'fills the whole earth'.

  • 1 Peter 2:4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has
    been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God,
    5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy
    priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
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Re: To judge or have contempt

God is trying to expose Satan's doctrines...such as Sunday worship services....Immortal soul doctrine....etc...etc.
Sunday worship services? Well excuuuse us all for following the devil.... :roll:
 
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Jay T

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Re: To judge or have contempt

antitox said:
God is trying to expose Satan's doctrines...such as Sunday worship services....Immortal soul doctrine....etc...etc.
Sunday worship services? Well excuuuse us all for following the devil.... :roll:
"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ? ", (Romans 6:16)
 
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Jay T

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evanman said:
Come on JayT do you only eat shechita meat?
Say What ?
Never mind....I eat mainly chicken and fish, for my protein source.
 
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Bob10

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yea, the Devil wants you to believe Jesus was born on the winter solstice to divert your eyes and mind from the biblically, divinely instituted holy days that ARE the LORD's (Lev. 23) ------- and that Paul told Christians to keep (1 Cor. 5: 7-8).
 
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Jay T

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evanman said:
Is the chicken you eat shechita meat?

Do you eat mackrel?
Explain what 'shechita' meat is....for those who do not know what the term means, OK?

There are other people reading this you know.
 
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