The Diet of Daniel

[JoJoe]

DANIEL 1:8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
10 And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
11 Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
12 Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.

Now, God knows I have been praying for my health for some time now and even nutritionist would agree that vegetarianism is quite healthy. There is this show with Sid Roth called "Supernatural", which I am sure some of you have seen.

He had this guest Jordan Rubin who was talking about the ten days of cleansing that Daniel proved to King
Nebuchadnezzar that his foods and diet was against Gods plan for us.
He also explains that pulse (which is defined as the edible seeds of various leguminous plants, for example chickpeas, lentils, and beans) cleanses the toxins that we put into ourselves each day.

Toxins from the following have a detrimental effect on us: polluted air and water, chemicals, caffeine, allergies, stress, alcohol, legal and illegal drugs, cigarettes, sugar, unforgiveness, negative attitudes.
And if coming to terms with the toxic food additives isn't hard enough, pesticide and chemical residues poison much of the food we consume today before it even reaches the supermarket shelves.
Throughout the relay of supply and demand - from grower to wholesaler to retailer - foods are stored, frozen, refined, incorrectly cooked, added to and subtracted from, until they finally reach the consumer often containing absolutely no nutritional benefit at all.

Anyways, this is a little piece of the whole picture I will include links to my sources. It explains in much more detail and even more factors are crucial like the times we eat. Just thought I would share. Enjoy!

http://sidroth.org/television/tv-archives/jordan-rubin

http://www.danielsdiet.com/daniels_diet.htm

 

[Eugene]

Dear Brother JoJoe, I can only point to scripture, and if you eat, or don’t eat certain things God receives you (Rom 14:3).

Now as far as science goes in their recommendations I don’t trust either. One day eggs will kill us, and now they’re good for us. Next are the renewed blessings upon butter over margarines. Cows are producing ads to eat more chicken, and the science of weather needs set goals of predictions between zero and one hundred percent to ensure reliability.


Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
1 Cor 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

Does this apply only to our spirituality, or our health too? I won’t judge you for eating nothing but broccoli.

 

[JoJoe]

Dear Brother JoJoe, I can only point to scripture, and if you eat, or don’t eat certain things God receives you (Rom 14:3).

Now as far as science goes in their recommendations I don’t trust either. One day eggs will kill us, and now they’re good for us. Next are the renewed blessings upon butter over margarines. Cows are producing ads to eat more chicken, and the science of weather needs set goals of predictions between zero and one hundred percent to ensure reliability.


Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
1 Cor 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

Does this apply only to our spirituality, or our health too? I won’t judge you for eating nothing but broccoli.

Lol! I love that touch at the end.

Now Brother Eugine, I did not intend this to make others vegetarian nor is the sources I linked. If one viewed the linked video above it is a way of eating as the Bible teaches in the old testament. I am in no way judging or condemning I assure you.

I myself will never go vegetarian but, some meats like bacon(my weakness)... Are not supposed to be eaten. My favorite line from this video " thou shalt not eat of things Jesus cast demons into". (I love that)

LEVITICUS 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

This thread was also geared toward physical health and the beautiful testimony of Jordan Rubin. After all our bodies are the temple which Christ resides.

 

[Deborah13]

" thou shalt not eat of things Jesus cast demons into".

Is that scripture?

 

[JoJoe]

Is that scripture?

No it isn't... More of a saying by Jordan Rubin in the video. I just liked it.

 

[Obadiah]

...I did not intend this to make others vegetarian nor is the sources I linked. If one viewed the linked video above it is a plan of eating as the Bible teaches to do so. I am in no way judging or condemning I assure you...

I think the problem is that you can't really say you are in no way judging or condemning others for not following you in this right after you said "it is a plan of eating as the Bible teaches to do" See, that is saying that if the rest of us don't follow you, we are in fact going against God and his word! In reality, this is a health choice for you which you are perfectly free to make. But to say the Bible tells us to do this and cite Old Testament Jewish law is to follow the Jewish religion, not Christianity. In Christianity we are no longer under the ancient Jewish law. So make your choice to avoid things like pork if you wish. That probably is a healthy choice. But please don't tell the rest of us that in Christ we still have to live under the OT law.

" It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." (Gal 5:1 NIV)

By the way I see the links you provided are advertisements for this guys books and such. He really doesn't provide much useful diet information that doesn't require spending $70 to buy his book to get all the information you will need.

 

[JoJoe]

I think the problem is that you can't really say you are in no way judging or condemning others for not following you in this right after you said "it is a plan of eating as the Bible teaches to do" See, that is saying that if the rest of us don't follow you, we are in fact going against God and his word! In reality, this is a health choice for you which you are perfectly free to make. But to say the Bible tells us to do this and cite Old Testament Jewish law is to follow the Jewish religion, not Christianity. In Christianity we are no longer under the ancient Jewish law. So make your choice to avoid things like pork if you wish. That probably is a healthy choice. But please don't tell the rest of us that in Christ we still have to live under the OT law.

" It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." (Gal 5:1 NIV)

By the way I see the links you provided are advertisements for this guys books and such. He really doesn't provide much useful diet information that doesn't require spending $70 to buy his book to get all the information you will need.

Whoa, whoa brother... your correct I did word it wrong. No, was not my intention so please don't pick apart my posts out of context. I will change it however.

Yes I know the second link is part of the book but, its the long page of info, that is the point. I put the video first for a reason which isn't a advertisement and just a testimony.

I live in the streets with limited funds. I am not buying anything either. Its the idea, kinda like the idea of a health forum section that is a discussion about better health. Why else would you even read this without that open minded perspective? I am not saying no one should eat pork... I love pork. Just makes sense to me not to eat it for the simple reason there not good for you.

Edit: I changed the quoted post to "way of eating". My ignorance, sorry...

 

[Obadiah]

Well I appreciate that, but just because I didn't quote your entire post doesn't mean I took it out of context. I'm simply quoting the part I am specifically commenting on, hence the ellipses which indicate this.

But I disagree, I did indeed watch the entire video and read through the second link. They are in deed advertizements for his book and the kit that comes with it, disguised as a "testimony". That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I simply don't trust advertisers! If it was truly just a "testimony" and his goal wasn't to sell his product, he could have made it all in a free downloadable .PDF file that you coulld get for free. Once again, I don't have a problem with someone producing a product with the intent of profiting from it. It just bothers me when they use God to sell it.

As for pork, shelfish, and all the other non-kosher foods being bad for you, that's been proven wrong many times as long as it's handled properly (as with any food). I agree that there are healthier ways to eat than the average American diet, but I just don't agree with the concept that God has commanded us (Christians) to eat kosher, which is what is implied over and over again in this video. If he wants to sell his diet, that's great, but he shouldn't disguise it as a command from God to Christians. This is Jewish religious law, not a requirement of Christianity. That's the only part that bothers me, and probably just because I see such a proliferation of the Judaisers lately who seem bent on converting Christians back to Judaism. It's probably a great diet, just not a command of God (at least not to Christians) as he constantly implies.

 

[Deborah13]

Just makes sense to me not to eat it for the simple reason there not good for you.

There really isn't that much difference between lean pork and chicken when it comes to nutritional value.

Pork Tenderloin
Calories: 96 calories
Total Fat: 3 grams
Saturated Fat: 1 grams
Cholesterol: 48 milligrams
Protein: 18 grams
Iron 6%
Thiamin 45%
Niacin 30%
B6 27%
B12 6%

Pork also contains healthy doses of zinc and selenium.


Chicken Breast
Calories: 142 calories
Total Fat: 3 grams
Saturated Fat: 1 grams
Cholesterol: 73 milligrams
Protein: 27 grams
Iron 5%
Thiamin 4%
Niacin 59%
B6 26%
B12 5%

Chicken is also a good source of selenium.

Read more at: http://blog.foodnetwork.com/healthyeats/2009/06/08/pork-good-or-bad/?oc=linkback

 

[JoJoe]

Well I appreciate that, but just because I didn't quote your entire post doesn't mean I took it out of context. I'm simply quoting the part I am specifically commenting on, hence the ellipses which indicate this.

But I disagree, I did indeed watch the entire video and read through the second link. They are in deed advertizements for his book and the kit that comes with it, disguised as a "testimony". That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I simply don't trust advertisers! If it was truly just a "testimony" and his goal wasn't to sell his product, he could have made it all in a free downloadable .PDF file that you coulld get for free. Once again, I don't have a problem with someone producing a product with the intent of profiting from it. It just bothers me when they use God to sell it.

As for pork, shelfish, and all the other non-kosher foods being bad for you, that's been proven wrong many times as long as it's handled properly (as with any food). I agree that there are healthier ways to eat than the average American diet, but I just don't agree with the concept that God has commanded us (Christians) to eat kosher, which is what is implied over and over again in this video. If he wants to sell his diet, that's great, but he shouldn't disguise it as a command from God to Christians. This is Jewish religious law, not a requirement of Christianity. That's the only part that bothers me, and probably just because I see such a proliferation of the Judaisers lately who seem bent on converting Christians back to Judaism. It's probably a great diet, just not a command of God (at least not to Christians) as he constantly implies.

Yeah forgive me for getting defensive, its just I didn't intend for any of that. I will be more mindful in the future.

I don't agree with the whole book thing either and I am 100% with you. I am just taking the idea out of the video which was free to watch and apply it and see the results. I have nothing to lose and if this is the only way I'm gonna eat veggies( Ew) then I will not deny my unhealthy body.

I have a tendancy to look at the good in everything even if it is fiction(God only knows) or not the message is still there.

I can say I have been watching that show for awhile and its the opposite of how you took it. In no way is Sid Roth promoting that and in fact its his mission to tell the Jewish people about Jesus Christ. He is Jewish himself and there is nothing wrong with loving who you are.

http://sidroth.org/about/sids-story

 

[JoJoe]

There really isn't that much difference between lean pork and chicken when it comes to nutritional value.

Pork Tenderloin
Calories: 96 calories
Total Fat: 3 grams
Saturated Fat: 1 grams
Cholesterol: 48 milligrams
Protein: 18 grams
Iron 6%
Thiamin 45%
Niacin 30%
B6 27%
B12 6%

Pork also contains healthy doses of zinc and selenium.


Chicken Breast
Calories: 142 calories
Total Fat: 3 grams
Saturated Fat: 1 grams
Cholesterol: 73 milligrams
Protein: 27 grams
Iron 5%
Thiamin 4%
Niacin 59%
B6 26%
B12 5%

Chicken is also a good source of selenium.

Read more at: http://blog.foodnetwork.com/healthyeats/2009/06/08/pork-good-or-bad/?oc=linkback

For sure lean is a better option, personally I like the non lean cuts; like I like dark meat on chicken. The only thing I'm doing is just taking Daniel as an example and applying it for 10 days. Not the rest of my life. I am having faith it will help me either way and its on my heart to do so.

 

[eddif]

Hebrews 6:4
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Colossians 2:21
(Touch not; taste not; handle not;

Physical diet (shadow of things to come)

Spiritual diet (eat his body and drink his blood).
Jesus is the body that cast the shadow into the OC.

Our diet today is more spiritual seed (word of God), and the ground is men's hearts.

Looking at shadows; usually does not do as much good as looking at the one who cast the shadow.

eddif

 

[eddif]

By the way jojoe.
Welcome to the Lions of the Tribe of Judah. The ones who will point to the Jewish apostles who praise the Messiah. Everything I know about Christ Jesus started with NC (kingdom) Jewish authors.

eddif

 

[Deborah13]

For sure lean is a better option, personally I like the non lean cuts; like I like dark meat on chicken. The only thing I'm doing is just taking Daniel as an example and applying it for 10 days. Not the rest of my life. I am having faith it will help me either way and its on my heart to do so.

It wouldn't be wrong if you decided to eat like the OT for the rest of your life. Before the flood man didn't eat any meat at all.
Food is one of the things the Lord just hasn't restricted us in. But still He may speak to an individual and give them other instructions, for them. It may be permanent or only for a season, as it appears to be with you.

 

[eddif]

Without pollution (sin) there might not be any need for meat. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.

Gentiles who ate food offered to idols sometimes can not eat meat for conscience sake (if it was offered to an idol).

eddif

 

[JoJoe]

ROMANS 14:14 I am conscious of this, and am certain in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself; but for the man in whose opinion it is unclean, for him it is unclean.

Oh Lord... That took me too long to find.
I understand that everyone is different and I also understand that we cannot judge others for eating stuff like pork.

I didn't intend the OP to convert to a kosher lifestyle or even saying don't eat pork. This is for me because I have high blood pressure and other health issues. Despite the fact I love ham and bacon it is literally bad for my health, and maybe there is another who is searching like I was.

I am simply sharing and nothing more. I am no way involved in the sources personally so please don't judge my intentions with conversion and I won't stress that enough.

The reason I kept the title with the keyword "diet" in mind, would be open minded enough to want to improve something in there health. Is it for you? Only you have the answer as its up to each of us. I may be not knowledgeable as most in scripture but, I trust Jesus will lead me in scripture that is relative to the present.

Thank you for the corrections I will put more thought on my wording when I share to become more clear. I just get over excited at times.

God bless all.

 

[Brother Mike]

Pork Tenderloin
Calories: 96 calories
Total Fat: 3 grams
Saturated Fat: 1 grams
Cholesterol: 48 milligrams
Protein: 18 grams
Iron 6%
Thiamin 45%
Niacin 30%
B6 27%
B12 6%

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ummmm. Lov'in it.

 

[JoJoe]

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ummmm. Lov'in it.

Day 2...

This picture doesn't help... Thanks brother.
Too bad the burgers don't come out like the pictures. I never visibly see any pickle on a Mc Donalds burger. Even when I ask for extra pickles.

 

[Brother Mike]

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Day 2...

This picture doesn't help... Thanks brother.
Too bad the burgers don't come out like the pictures. I never visibly see any pickle on a Mc Donalds burger. Even when I ask for extra pickles.

I don't think that burger is real in the picture. They often use plastic or fake food to do photo's and shoot commercials. I am pretty sure the plastic burger is much more healthy than the real thing though.

The real deal is pictured above of how it looks if we order it.

 

[JoJoe]

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I don't think that burger is real in the picture. They often use plastic or fake food to do photo's and shoot commercials. I am pretty sure the plastic burger is much more healthy than the real thing though.

The real deal is pictured above of how it looks if we order it.

Lol
Yeah I stopped eating McDonalds after they changed the nuggets and McRibwich. More of a in-and-out guy these days. I am having animal style fry withdrawals as we speak.