Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life
Topical Studies Moderator
- Jul 13, 2012
I tried twice J....can't explain it better than that.
It has to do with retroactivity.....
Jesus was born in the year 6 o7 BC.
If we want to call THE SON OF GOD, or THE 2ND PERSON OF THE TRINITY Jesus,,,that would be retroactive.
The first Pope was named in about 600 AD.
IF we want to call Peter the first pope,,,that has to be retroactive.
The only creation of a New Spirit that I understand would be that of the Holy Spirit, being the Spirit of God, that indwells us within our renewed inner man through the Spiritual renewal from above.The birth, death and resurrection of Christ, from the Son of Man to the Son of God was the creation of a New Spirit. The Spirit of the Son.
How is it that someone can say the subject is beyond our comprehension but then fall back to only what they understand? That I can't comprehend.The only creation of a New Spirit that I understand would be that of the Holy Spirit, being the Spirit of God, that indwells us within our renewed inner man through the Spiritual renewal from above.
Some things are beyond our comprehension as many things we can only know in part, 1 Corinthians 13:12.How is it that someone can say the subject is beyond our comprehension but then fall back to only what they understand? That I can't comprehend.
Is it not written in the scripture that God should create a new heaven and earth?
How should you be made into a son except the Spirit of the Son be first created? Else how should the Lord God send the Spirit of the Son into your hearts crying Abba, Father?
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Within the incarnation Jesus was temporarily made a little lower than the angels, Hebrews 2:9, which was His nature when He took on human form. Jesus being the second person of the Trinity took on human flesh as a man. Within this He was fully man while here on earth that made Him lower than the angels, but yet He is fully divine. This is explained in Philippians 2:5-7.John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
If Jesus said the Father is Greater than I (the Son), then how can the Son be co-equal in this trinity doctrine being discussed here?
What is the scripture, full of knowledge yet with no understanding? It really enraged the Pharisees when Jesus spoke to them.Some things are beyond our comprehension as many things we can only know in part, 1 Corinthians 13:12.
Really? There are three that bear record in Heaven, and three that bear record on Earth.What does God creating a new heaven and earth have todo with the topic?
The first man Adam, He was a Son of God. Was Adam created?Where does it say in scripture that the Spirit of the Son was created?
I have numerous times,Diane,
I urge you to defend that position from Scripture.
Making a statement as you have done here is nothing more than giving your personal opinion.
Yes, 1John 5:7Diane, please consider that there are three distinct divine beings that make up the One Godhead.
The scripture is clear on this.
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
- These three are one. Very Specific.
It does not say, this one is three.
Elohim is plural for God.
There are three that comprise the one Godhead.
Hear oh Israel, the LORD our God is one.Yes, 1John 5:7
The Father, God
Word was God John 1:1
Holy Spirit is God's Spirit....
These 3 distinct roles are ONE
As, We all exist of body=flesh
Spirit =our spirit
These are 3 roles manifested in ONE PERSON..
We are not 3 persons....
But, to each his own.